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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:43 PM
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More religious fallout for Obama


Obama has written and spoken about being inspired by the preaching of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., and his calls to “spur social change.” The title of Obama’s second book, “The Audacity of Hope,” which essentially launched his presidential bid, was taken from a sermon by Wright.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,300135,00.html
Baptized in Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ, Obama has been an active member for two decades, regularly attending services with his family under Wright's spiritual mentorship.

Some of Wright’s sermons, which often address themes of white supremacy and black repression, have come under scrutiny by those who interpret them as racially divisive. Such preaching, they believe, polarizes Americans rather than unites them.

“Wright’s preaching does promote a sort of racial exclusivity,” said Michael Cromartie, vice president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington.

“Statements that suggest you cannot truly understand God unless you are black or poor are exclusive.”

Remarks attributed to Wright that were posted on audio files on the Internet and cited in press accounts earlier this year may have prompted the criticism.

“Fact number one: We’ve got more black men in prison than there are in college.

"Fact number two: Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run.

"We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional killers. ... We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. ... We conducted radiation experiments on our own people. ... We care nothing about human life if the ends justify the means.

"And ... And ... And! God! Has got! To be sick! Of this s***!"
youtube of Wright- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfNEfEBYIZs

Meanwhile, in a statement on his church’s Web site, Wright defends the principles of his theology:

“To have a church whose theological perspective starts from the vantage point of Black liberation theology being its center, is not to say that African or African American people are superior to any one else. …There is more than one center from which to view the world. In the words of Dr. Janice Hale, ‘Difference does not mean deficience’ . It is from this vantage point that Black liberation theology speaks.”
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:45 PM
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1. how DARE you use a right wing sources AGAINST Obama!
:sarcasm:

Right wing sources shall only be used against Hillary.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:46 PM
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2. It's true
From Columbus to the illegal immigrant, this country was founded on racism and impoverished workers. Is this a surprise to anybody?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:49 PM
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3. I saw no "black supremacy" in any of that
And everything he said was true...
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:53 PM
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4. omg! The uppity black christian liberationists are gonna getcha!
:rofl:
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:55 PM
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5. Your post says more about you than it does about Obama
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 02:57 PM by ripple
If you consider Fox News a valid source, you really should get out more.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 01:18 AM
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12. I don't put people on ignore and I read every thing that I can that has an
Edited on Tue Oct-09-07 01:20 AM by 2rth2pwr
impact on politics in these here United States. But to address your outrage, there has been attacks against Hillary posted on this board emanating from right wing sources.

edit- LBN has the rules on the validity of news sources.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:58 PM
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6. Posters that use Fux "News" as a source for smearing candidates deserve to be...
tarred and feathered.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:59 PM
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7. Now that's a stretch...but thanks for playing... n/t
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 03:00 PM
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8. Sunday morning...the most segregated time in America
I'm happy to hear of a minister guiding his flock in the realities of the day. I stopped going to church years ago because all the preachers wanted to talk about was fire and brimstone.

Good for Rev Wright, and good for his congregation for having the good sense to be there.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 03:03 PM
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9. Wonderful. A Fox News article that quotes a guy from Santorum's think tank
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 03:09 PM by maximusveritas
Just because people post crap about Hillary from RW sites doesn't make it right to do the same to Obama.

The two critics cited in the article are both RW fundamentalists.
The first guy works at the RW think tank, Ethics and Public Policy Center, where Santorum also works nowadays.
The second guy works at the RW/libertarian think tank, Acton Institute, which promotes "natural law theory, Christian social thought, and free market economics."

Is it any wonder they don't approve of Barack's beliefs?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 03:07 PM
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10. Mmmmmmm ... flamebait.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 03:31 PM
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11. Your post truly sucks, it is criticizing Obama but by referring to someone else's actions
That is low.

And I like Hillary, Obama and Edwards.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 01:58 AM
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13. What's your next source?
You haven't tried this guy yet, but he'd be a step up.



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