Dennis Kucinich's trophy wife.

[cali]

Remember during the last campaign cycle when Kucinich did that win a date with Dennis deal? How inappropriate is that? And now he's married to someone 30 years younger than he is, just blech. And isn't this his second or third marriage? Hmm. What does that say about his character and judgement?

I'll tell you what it says: Nothing. It's an inappropriate personal attack, just like accusing Hillary of of malfeasance for not divorcing Bill, or for having "smeared" Flowers or Lewinsky.

[ShortnFiery]

1. Another stellar thread

:eyes:

[cali]

4. LOL! Glad you read it, not that I expect any little lights to go

on in your head. You're just the kind of person, I was addressing this to: Someone who doesn't hesitate to use personal attacks on a candidate's personal life, instead of fact based policy criticism.

[sufrommich]

11. I find it hard to believe the irony is lost on you.

You bashed Hillary Clinton for staying with her unfaithful husband to further her career as if you had first hand info confirming it as fact.

[cali]

14. It's called hypocrisy. n/t

[ShortnFiery]

15. And don't you be the first to cast stones, my friend.

;) :hi:

[cali]

16. Yeah? Why shouldn't I call you on the crap you post?

It's some of the most egregiously dishonest and distasteful, posted here. And you think nothing of casting stones. You do it in the majority of your posts.

[ShortnFiery]

20. That's the point cali, you ATTACK people and don't really bring about consensus.

You use derogatory and divisive words like "crap" OUT OF THE GATE and think that you are being instructive.

No it's IMO, just plain SAD. :(

As far as I can tell, the only satisfaction one can glean from your "approach" is bringing others down in a haughty and condescendeng manner ... IMO, that's not democratic.

[LittleClarkie]

52. You STILL didn't read it all the way through, did you.

He was posting in support of Kucinich, not against.

[roguevalley]

41. meybe we can triangulate and include Britney and K-Fed. Make it

complete. :crazy:

[LittleClarkie]

51. You didn't read it all the way through, did you

was not an attack on Kucinich.

[Le Taz Hot]

2. OK, I thought you had lost your mind there for a sec.

I'm fine now. :crazy:

[cobalt1999]

3. someone won't read all the way down before responding though.

I give it 5 more posts. :)

[poverlay]

5. Alright, I'm a little sleepy 'cuz I totally fell for your trick there. I really started to work

myself into a tizzy with a hearty "How dare you?".
LOL

You forgot to mention that Elizabeth is probably smarter, not to mention cooler, than most of us here.

I'll leave you with a pleasant thought: Good morning and: "Congratulations President Kucinich".

[backscatter712]

6. I'm with the OP - it's none of our business.

I personally know a couple that's pretty far apart in years - when they met, he was 34, she was 18. They've been happily married for years, have two children, and a third on the way. There are lots of couples like this.

Now if you want an entertaining marital life, try taking a look at Rudy Giuliani's...

[MonkeyFunk]

7. I agree

her age shouldn't be an issue.


But to be fair, there are plenty of posts here about Fred Thompson's wife. So whether it SHOULD be an issue is a different question from whether it WILL be an issue.

Personally, I think the fact that she's not a US citizen would be a bigger issue than her age or tongue-stud.

[cali]

8. Yes, of course people will throw anything at the repuke

candidates. And hypocritical or not, I don't mind that, though I'd never engage in calling Thompson's wife a trophy wife, and I don't really care about Rudi's personal life either, though that bleeds into the political a bit more.

But I don't like seeing any of the dem candidates attacked on their personal lives.

[ShortnFiery]

19. The "goal" of such a thread is just sad and only benefits those who already,

for one egotistical reason or another, feel intellectually superior as well as the drive to proclaim it - Over and Over and Over and Over :eyes: ... the M.O. is always an offshoot of "the same." :P

[cali]

22. Oh, that was so astute and

meaningful.:eyes:

[ShortnFiery]

23. Well, at least you're consistent and ultra- predictable.

:hi: ;)

[QueenOfCalifornia]

47. Oh my GAWD

I have been following this.

I don't think YOU get it at all.

I know I should just STFU but YOU are the problem here. I really don't think you get the sarcasm of the original post -- Or if you do get it, I am at a loss at all the whining coming from you. I'm just amazed this thread hasn't been locked because of you.

If the Poster bothers you so much -- Please feel free to click on the IGNORE button.

[Apollo11]

17. Yeah - never trust a Brit!

REMEMBER 1776!

"The Redcoats Are Coming!"

:sarcasm:

[MonkeyFunk]

31. I said nothing of the sort

I said merely that a candidate's wife not being a US citizen would likely be a bigger issue than her age.

[ronnykmarshall]

46. You are so correct.

Hell, I've heard Randi Rhodes and Stephanie Miller talk about ol' Fred's wife. BUT nothing is said about Dennis'.

[terisan]

9. We can't consider our personal evaluations as to a candidate's character & judgement?

I do so, unapologetically. It is a piece of information not a personal attack.

Marriage is a contract and how an individual deals with contracts is pertinent.

Choices in personal relationships may reveal much about an individual's ability to deal with others.

Frankly in terms of character, judgement, ability, and performance I look for candidates who are better than I am.

[Fresh_Start]

10. Why shouldn't multiple divorces be an issue?

As long as a person uses that guideline equitably.
Maybe you think multiple divorces are fine.
But some of took that until death do us part pledge seriously.

[Apollo11]

18. I also took it seriously

Right up until the day my first wife told me she was leaving me for another guy.

Then I decided that suicide (or killing her) would be an over-reaction.

[rucky]

36. It's only an issue if you campaign for the "sanctity of marriage"

like the Newties and other hyporcites of the world.

[Fresh_Start]

38. The issue you are talking about is hypocrisy.

But some of us believe in the sanctity of the marriage vow itself...whether or not there is hypocrisy involved.

[rucky]

45. that's why I made "air quotes" around it. n/t

[jberryhill]

55. On the flip side, it's worth mentioning...

That the circumstances surrounding Joe Biden's early decision to resign before taking office the first time speaks volumes on the "sanctity of marriage" thing...

It took a lot of convincing to get him into the Senate.

But the story is not worth using to score political points, either.

[jmp]

12. Hillary's problems are her judgment and her hawkishness.

...

[cali]

13. Exactly.

But her marriage should not be fair game.

[ShortnFiery]

21. But MARRIAGES are fair game. And you can not make it otherwise. Even for Dennis Kucinich.

No, we don't have that magic key to order others NOT to cover a "political figure's" personal life. When they ran for public office, they KNEW that their personal life is FAIR GAME. :shrug:

[cali]

24. They may be fair game for YOU

I think Dennis' marriage or Hillary's marriage or Edward's marriage, etc, is none of my frackin' business. And it certainly won't impact on how I vote.

[ShortnFiery]

25. Hello? I'm a dyed in the wool Democrat. I canvassed for a local candidate for 8 hours last week.

And I'm here to tell you that "you ain't seen nothing yet." We are a Democratic Republic and if PEOPLE want to talk about Bill Clinton grabbing women's asses in the oval office all day long, they will do it. And YOU, Cali will not be able to ORDER them NOT TO.

You may have the glib nature to snob a number of us, but you can't do that to the world.

People will talk about Marriages and Sex. Public figures either accept that or ... they cease being Public Figures.

All the whining and hand wringing you demonstrate will not make the fact that The Clintons have TONS of Personal Baggage ... UNTRUE. :shrug:

[cali]

26. Everyone has personal baggage

If you have a personal life, you've got it, but I prefer to think that most democrats are more intelligent than to attack dem candidates on their marriages or parenting skills, which they know JACKSHIT about. And calling me a snob or an elitiest or whatever, is utterly pointless, as my objections aren't rooted in elitism or snobbery.

[ShortnFiery]

28. We both know that if you are A PUBLIC FIGURE you must accept that your personal life

is NOT private in any way, shape or form.

Again, we can't FORCE the electorate to ignore a person's private behavior.

However, I can reach a point of agreement that it should not be weighted near as heavily as their competence in office.

But does it matter: Yes, and perhaps it carries more weight so for others than for us? We can't influence and/or order others NOT to weigh that private evidence too when considering who to vote for President.

[cali]

32. Take your straw man home.

I'm clearly not talking about forcing anyone to do anything. I'm pointing out that dems attacking *some* dem candidates on their personal lives, is a bad practice.

[ShortnFiery]

33. Hey, I'm less than thrilled that DK married this much younger woman ...

Yes, it's disappointing but I don't weight it nearly as high as his behavior and courage regarding his exceptional Congressional performance.

But yah cali, they call them PUBLIC figures for a reason, i.e., there's no privacy. :shrug:

[cali]

34. It's HIS business- and hers.

Just because they're public figures, doesn't mean you have to get in the muck and wallow.

[ShortnFiery]

35. No, you can't MAKE people not pay attention.

No, not even you cali. ;) :hi:

[sufrommich]

27. Was there an "order" to stop talking .

It looked more like a poster pointing out gaping inconsistencies in logic and bald faced hypocrisy to me.

[ShortnFiery]

29. No, no directive order, but some sort of implication that it shouldn't matter.

And no, it shouldn't be weighed as heavily but IT DOES MATTER. :shrug:

[redqueen]

30. Heh... nice one.

:hi:

*sigh*

[YOY]

37. I think the only thing to point out is that she is a hottie.

That is all.



This non-political moment was brought to you by Testosterone: Making men lose all logic since the dawn of time!

[Vickers]

39. I dunno...she's too tall and pretty for me.

:crazy:

[Gregorian]

40. Now if he passes a law banning me from marrying a hot woman, that's a different subject.

Then anything goes.

[TheUniverse]

42. I could care less about a politicians personal life.

I dont know the details of Dennis's or Hillary's personal life, so I leave that to them. I concentrate on what they would as president.

[cali]

43. You do understand that that was my point, don't you? n/t

[AtomicKitten]

44. Kudos to Dennis.

Mazel tov.

[gorekerrydreamticket]

48. Sorry, big age differences like that creep me out although...

it is certainly their right and their business to do as they please...

[ShortnFiery]

49. You and me both!

It creeps me out ... seriously when 40 something men "ogle" at our teenage daughter, I swear I'd love to kick them WHERE IT HURTS! :grr: :blush:

I know ... I know ... "dirty old men" politicians are none of my business - but when it's FAMILY - I make it my business. :P

[dailykoff]

50. She's gorgeous.

They really ought to work out that height thing, though.

[Catherine Vincent]

53. That lucky bastard. n/t

[illinoisprogressive]

54. I think she's lovely and Dennis is lucky. they seem so happy together.