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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:51 PM
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AP-Ipsos Poll: Hillary 40%, Obama 26%, Edwards 12% (What happened to the 33% lead?)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:54 PM
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1. Screw polls.
:D
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:58 PM
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3. But, but, nut... wasn't this OVER?
:sarcasm:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:55 AM
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18. That was my immediate reaction.
Edited on Sat Oct-06-07 12:55 AM by Jackpine Radical
WGAFF? (Who gives a ...?)
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:58 PM
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2. Though released later...
Was conducted more than a week earlier...before Hillary's media blitz starting with the SUnday talk shows...

WP poll is the later poll...
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:59 PM
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4. So she went up more than 10% in just a couple of days...
Me thinks the WP is an outlier.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:00 AM
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6. We will have to see...
You can't really compare one poll to another...different methodologies etc...

I suspect her real lead is low to mid 20's...
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:01 AM
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8. Check the Rassmusen Daily polls this week.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:04 AM
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9. Again...
Different methodologies...

And daily tracking polls even more volatile...

However I do remember you extolling that poll a couple weeks ago when it appeared Obama might be catching up only to have it proven illusory...

However the threshold of happiness for Obama supporters does seem to have gone from getting him only behind by single digits, to now being behind by less than 20...

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:06 AM
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11. Stop raining on my parade, Elmer!
Edited on Sat Oct-06-07 12:06 AM by Katzenkavalier
:hi:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:08 AM
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13. Ok, ok...
I gotta go to bed anyway...

Goodnight!!

:hi:
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:09 AM
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14. Have a good night, Elmer!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:10 AM
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15. Quite possible, but one things one thing both polls agree on:
Hillary is ahead of her closest rival by a significant margin. This aspect has not changed in several months.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:59 PM
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5. I think the 33% lead was an outlier, for now at least.
but I still think she has a considerable lead.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:01 AM
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7. Rasmussen today has the race 40 to 27, consistent with the AP numbers.
13% is not 33%...
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:07 AM
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12. Again...
The AP poll was taken over a week before the WP...

So even if Obama is "catching" up as you hope on Rasmussen, it can't be the same dynamic driving both polls...

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 01:06 AM
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19. You're earning your bumper stickers! nt
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:04 AM
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10. Oh my!!!!! the old girl is fading. Fading fast.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:16 AM
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16. Yesterday, someone posted that the 33% poll was an
outlier. They gave the source of their information but
I do not remember their source.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:45 AM
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17. "Unsinkable" ships sink and "fail safe" reactors melt down.
Hillary is facing several exceptional candidates with chops and the money to beat her. I don't question her skills and I think she would make a good President but at this stage "nothing can go wrong" seems like the prelude to a nasty fall.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 01:29 AM
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20. Interesting results. Apples to apples (AP/IPSOS only), they finally dropped
Edited on Sat Oct-06-07 01:29 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Gore from the list for the first time, and his support went exactly where one would expect -- distributed randomly to the other candidates. This is a quirk I've been watching for a while--the odd fact that Gore supporters don't skew for any candidate.

Hillary actually gained the most of anyone in this poll, going from 35% to 40% in one week in the AP/IPSOS poll set, but that has no particular meaning insofar as all of Clinton's gain, Obama's gain and Edwards' gain are all due to dividing up the 12% Gore had last week before they dropped him from the question.

So a static week for AP/IPSOS, but with a phantom pickup in the headline number for Clinton due to the Gore factor. (leading Obama by 14 vs 12 last week.)

Gore's 12% >>> Clinton +5%, Obama +3%, Edwards 3%, and 1% to 'unsure'
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 04:09 AM
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21. looks like in three months Obama has moved up
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 05:28 AM
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22. The race is tightening...
It was bound to happen. Frontrunneritis sets in...

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