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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:33 PM
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Ahhhh Shucks....(Dean's Dropping Out)
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 02:42 PM by absyntheNsugar
I understand, but snickerdoodles in a dog dish, this was the last good candidate.

Now it's down to a clothespin primary again...

Oh well, I'll vote Kerry since at least he realizes the IWR was a mistake.

P.S. I understand Edwards is fighting and has always fought for working families and that is noted. But IWR was my litmus test - and Kerry has at least admitted it was a mistake. Edwards has not. Call that conviction, I call it wrong.

ON EDIT: D word replaced with food item
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BL_Zebub Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:36 PM
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1. Kerry shifts his excuse for IWR with the political winds
Let's suppose Junior found (or more likely planted) WMD's in Iraq. John Kerry would call a press conference within an hour and boast about he was right to authorize the invasion all along. Edwards and Lieberman were wrong to vote for the invasion, but at least they stand behind their vote, popular or not.
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:39 PM
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4. Whatever!
I don't know where people get these ideas about Kerry.

And it's amusing the HELL out of me that Edwards and Lieberman are being lauded for their integrity all of a sudden - by people who used to bust on K, E and L in the same sentence for the IWR vote.
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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:40 PM
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5. any politician an be accused of that
And I will agree Kerry is smarmy...but he is the more liberal of the two left, and I don't see him perpetuating PNAC.

But hell, Edwards wins and I'll vote for him in November. No NaderTraitor here!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:41 PM
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6. !They both know it was based on lies
and STILL support it knowing that. Sheesh. Come on! THAT tells me....he thinks it OK to attack any fucking country where we think their leader is a "bad" man. No Thank You!
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:38 PM
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2. I'm part of a working family
I don't feel like Edwards has done anything for me.... or will.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:39 PM
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3. !I don't think you can swear in your "original" thread starter post.
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 02:42 PM by in_cog_ni_to
Take out the word "damn" and then come back and post a rant. :7 Hurry or they will lock this again!

I'm sorry Dean is dropping out. It's truly a shame. I feel your pain. :cry:
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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:43 PM
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7. Yep, it seems the "good guys" all dropped out
I was all excited to vote for Clark in the CA primary, then he dropped out.

So I said, "well at least there's Dean..." then he dropped out.

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GodHelpUsAll2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:51 PM
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8. You can still vote for either in your primary
As long as they are still on the ballot.
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:54 PM
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9. Dean supports please keep on truckin
My younger brother is beside himself with this and I understand the excitement Dean generated.

But we have to be real about this and continue the excitement to get W out.

I can't agree that this was the last good candidate. I was a Clark supporter because I think he had the best anti-right wing message, but I can definitely live with Kerry. Kerry is a good man. His message and delivery is improving. He'll survive the right wing onslaught, which Dean may not have.

The most significant point in all of this is it DOESN'T require perfection to make a HUGE improvement on where we are now. In other words, we don't need universal health care, the euphoria of American coming together as one, etc....

The most important step in the right direction is exactly what Clinton did, which was to raise up the upper eschelon rate to a reasonable amount so that we don't bankrupt the country, and we can get back to a balanced budget again.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:56 PM
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10. The long and short of it...
...is:

It's K Street NW's country.
We just get to live in it.
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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:58 PM
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11. actually, he says what's apparently convienient, but...
..remember this past weekend's debate? John Edwards confirmed taking responsibility for his actions, and has said he would have voted differently if the intelligence information has been, in fact, accurate.

But when asked the same question (do you take responsibility for your ote) John Kerry went into a calculated diatribe, in which he skirted taking any responsibility for the unfortunate outcomes following IWR.

Kerry said the President can do what he wants anyway, with or without congress. He said HE voted for a process, not a war. He WOULD NOT, even when asked yes/no a second time by the moderator, commit himself to any responsibility re. Iraq.

THIS SCARES ME! That is to say, if John Kerry becomes our nominee, I of course will support him--but I do not feel right now that I can trust him. John Edwards has been truthful and consistent. I'm supporting Edwards for as long as I can.
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