URGENT Phone Action: Lieberman Trying to SNEAK Iran War Declaration Through The Senate

[robinlynne]

I just received this from the PEN, and wanted to pass it along to you:
(Their info is always pertinent)

CALL YOUR SENATORS RIGHT NOW AND DEMAND THEY VOTE DOWN THE
LIEBERMAN-KYL AMENDMENT

In case you thought it was just an aberrant moment of lunacy last
week when Lieberman pressed General Petraeus for an attack on Iran,
just before the weekend he introduced an amendment to the defense
bill to authorize exactly that.

No, we are not kidding. He has drafted language that any impartial
observer would interpret as a DECLARATION OF WAR against Iran, and he
is pressing for a vote as fast as possible.

ACTION PAGE: http://www.usalone.com/no_iran_war_declaration.php

Here is the language from the amendment:

(3) that it should be the policy of the United States to combat,
contain, and roll back the violent activities and destabilizing
influence inside Iraq of the Government of the Islamic Republic of
Iran, its foreign facilitators such as Lebanese Hezbollah, and its
indigenous Iraqi proxies;

(4) to support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of
United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic,
intelligence, and military instruments, in support of the policy
described in paragraph (3) with respect to the Government of the
Islamic Republic of Iran and its proxies.


The policy of the U.S should be to "combat" Iran with "all" "military
instruments"?!? You can be absolutely certain that those are the ONLY
words Dick Cheney and George Bush will see or care about.

ACTION PAGE: http://www.usalone.com/no_iran_war_declaration.php

We need every warm body we can muster to call and email their
senators RIGHT NOW, before they pull another fast one and sneak this
one through in the dead of the night. Call them toll free at 800
828-0498, 800 614 2803 or 866 340 9281, and the submit the action
form below to make sure your message gets through.

Just yesterday, Newsweek reported that Cheney had recently made
overtures to Israel to get them to launch an attack against Iran, to
try to provoke an all out conflagration. It seems every day there is
a new story leaked about their aggressive preparations for The
Debacle, Part 2. And just as in the lead up to the Iraq invasion,
they will keep lying, lying and lie some more about their intentions
until they've shot off every cruise missile in the military
inventory.

We need your voice, and the voices of everyone else you know, and we
them now. We need to absolutely flood the Capitol with phone calls
and email. Please believe your voice counts. Please believe that when
enough of us raise our voices together at one time they do have an
impact.

Cheney and his minions are absolutely not going to stop pushing for
an even bigger disaster unless we stop them by speaking out with a
louder voice. So we cannot let up ourselves even for an instant.

[Richard Steele]

1. K&R

[UnclassifiedProducer]

89. Sen. Webb Rails Against Leiberman Amendment

At least someone is showing some cajones in the Senate.
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Webb: Lieberman And Kyl’s Hawkish Iran Amendment Is ‘Cheney’s Fondest Pipe Dream’


On the Senate floor today, Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) made an impassioned appeal to his fellow senators, declaring that the Lieberman-Kyl amendment on Iran should be “withdrawn” because the “proposal is Dick Cheney’s fondest pipe dream.” Webb cautioned that the “cleverly-worded sense of the Congress” could be “interpreted” to “declare war” on Iran. He continued:

Those who regret their vote five years ago to authorize military action in Iraq should think hard before supporting this approach. Because, in my view, it has the same potential to do harm where many are seeking to do good.

“At best, it’s a deliberate attempt to divert attention from a failed diplomatic policy,” said Webb. “At worst, it could be read as a backdoor method of gaining Congressional validation for military action, without one hearing and without serious debate.

Full story here:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/webb-kyl-lieb-iran/

[williesgirl]

2. done - k&r

[fenriswolf]

3. wtf has the world gone mad?

sorry I know it has. k&r

[ChairmanAgnostic]

70. not all of it, just Ole Joe and his team members.

I do believe that AIPAC is putting pressure on senators to approve it.

[loudsue]

91. I truly think there are those in both the U.S. and Israel

who want the U.S. to go absolutely belly up causing wars. Where in the hell is the money going to come from? And where are they going to get the soldiers? Do they just think there's not already enough bloodshed to last a lifetime going on in Iraq, Darfour, etc. right now? These people are ratshit crazy, and love to see other people shedding their blood for STUPID causes. I guess it makes 'em feel tough.

When is this insanity going to become outlawed?

[txaslftist]

107. If you could get another country to fight a war for yours, why not?

They pay the butcher's bill, they take the international heat, they take the blowback...

This one's a no-brainer for Israel.

[StClone]

72. Well at Least JoeMo,

What a piece of work.

[fooj]

4. Off to the greatest...

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. WTF? How do you "sneak in" a war declaration?

It would probably go down something like this:

Oh, by the way, mimsy, we did the darnest thing in Congress today. We thought we were voting for a Party Lites bail out and someone's assistant slipped in a war Declaration rider and we're now committed to bombing Iran and Cuba. But, oh, hey, Congress got a 75% discount on their next Party Lite order!

[Igel]

21. You put it in the General Orders and stipulate 'by unanimous consent'.

Many organizations at their meetings have a "consent calendar"; usually it's near the beginning of the agenda, and the chair drones, "Is there any objection to adopting the consent calendar by unanimous consent?" (or some such phrase). If you don't speak up, you've just consented to any motion on the consent calendar.

[The Backlash Cometh]

26. And we wonder where we lost the trust factor.

Trickle down distrust.

Wouldn't it just be safer to protest everything?

[PhilipDC]

83. BS

That's virtually impossible to do in the Senate. This is an amendment to the Defense bill.

[Tarc]

6. All it would've taken was one more Senate seat

Not downplaying the most excellent turn of events of Nov 2006, but its a shame they didn't win just one more Senate seat. Then they would've been able to leave Benedict Lieberman completely out in the cold and not have to rely on him for a majority.

[peacetalksforall]

64. As it is, one of our Dem candedates could be away campaigning

or could have a medical issue to attend to.

[movonne]

7. I think there are a great many of our dems in congress and senate..

that wants this too.

[Hepburn]

8. Holy fuck!

This is NUTS ~~ not that nuttiness is unexpected from LIEbarfman and Kyl...but THIS OFF THE SCALE NUTS!!!!

:scared:

[bonito]

9. Needs a kick

:kick:

[chill_wind]

10. Hello, DU?? K&R this up ASAP! n/t

[Judi Lynn]

11. This is so sad! What an ugly disappointment this guy has become. Thanks, robinlynne. K & R. n/t

[onehandle]

12. This is bullshit.

And as usual, it floats to the top of the front page.

[Eric J in MN]

13. How so? NT

NT

[onehandle]

27. "inside Iraq" Paragraph (3)

Joe is just extending his current insanity. Not a new war.

America won't stand for it.

[LibertyorDeath]

19. Is that you Joe............

[liberalhistorian]

23. Notice his sudden silence? What a surprise.

If it's such bullshit, why was Holy Joe on C-Span saying that, while no one "wants" war, all diplomatic efforts with Iran have been exhausted and it's time to consider military force?

[onehandle]

29. I was busy.

"Holy Joe" is just as impotent as our President.

He leads Nothing in this Congress.

And when we take more Senate seats next year, he'll mean even less.

[Patiod]

63. Please don't assume other people on DU don't have busy lives

I often "post and run" because I read and post during downtimes during my work day, and if the phone rings and a client needs something, then goodbye, DU, sometimes until the next day.

I imagine there are people who post from home who have demanding little folks around.

Sometimes folks can devote time to back-and-forth, but sometimes they can't. That's why it's a bulletin board, not a chat room.

[illinoisprogressive]

14. what is with mighty joe and his warmongering. why???

[ClintonTyree]

54. Popular sentiment is that Lieberman....

is Connecticut's Senator. In reality, he's Israel's Senator. The people of Connecticut are an afterthought to Holy Joe. He's there to do Israel's bidding first and foremost.

How the people of Connecticut got duped into re-electing this traitor is WAY beyond me and I wish there were some way they could recall or impeach his ass. I think he knows this is his last term as Senator and he's determined to go out with a BANG! Unfortunately that bang will probably be a mushroom cloud in the middle east.

[peacetalksforall]

65. The people of CT are his work tool for Israel - he works for Israel. Period.

[pudding man]

112. bottled-in-bond Zionist

He's a bottled-in-bond Zionist. His sentiments therefor supercede any for the US.

Puddin'

[autorank]

15. K*R Great work!!!!!!!!! Will do. n/t

[cynthia]

16. done

I had a feeling this was coming with the comments he made last week in the Petraeus hearings.

[Mr Rabble]

17. This guy is really insane.

I feel like ive been punched in the gut. If that makes it to *'s desk, we are truly done.

[BlueGirlRedState]

18. Called my senators

Not that I expect it to do much good but I told them no on Iran and get out of Iraq.

[jdadd]

20. .....

Kick And Recommend

[McCamy Taylor]

22. Done

[lovuian]

24. WWIII is coming tick tock tick tock

I hope that reason will come to Mankind

the truly evil regime of rich men

has to come to end

[orleans]

25. why is lieberman so FUCKING CRAZY??

what the hell is WRONG with that guy? (k&r btw)

[alfredo]

35. He has dual loyalty

[gateley]

40. He only is loyal to the GOP. I'm convinced he was like a Republican mole

inserted into the Democratic network until he worked his way up to where he can do the most harm. Really.

Sending off messages to my peeps now. Unfortunately Elizabeth Dole is one of 'em.

[alfredo]

81. he supports the war in Iraq because he believes it is to the benefit of

his most favored nation. His most favored nation has seven nations they want wiped off the face of the earth and Iraq is one, Syria, and Iran are also among the seven.

[gateley]

94. You're so right -- thanks. nt

[FREEWILL56]

96. I question that.

His democratic constituants saw through him as being pro bush/neocon and did not nominate him for it. That's when LIEberman went independent and the few dems that voted for him out of being used to seeing him as a dem were not enough to put him back in office. The republicons did vote for him overwhelmingly though as the guy is a pure neocon with papers that call him something else.

[alfredo]

108. Neo cons have split loyalties. their foreign policy is centered around

protecting one country and it is not the US. Before they took over the government here some were working for that other country. Tom Clancey responded to a question about Paul Wolfowitz by asking "Is he working for our side?" I know it is bad form to question one's patriotism, but some times one has to. I am all for being friends with this nation and don't want harm to befall them, but if push comes to shove, I will side with the US. I have doubts about the neo cons choosing our country when the chips are down.

[mod mom]

28. Done-may I just say I hate that DLC POS?

[Douglas Carpenter]

30. thanks for posting --- RECOMMENDED!!!!!!!!

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"I think of war with Iran as the ending of America's present role in the world. Iraq may have been a preview of that, but it's still redeemable if we get out fast. In a war with Iran, we'll get dragged down for 20 or 30 years. The world will condemn us. We will lose our position in the world."

Zbigniew Brzezinski, Vanity Fair, 2006.


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[Usrename]

31. There really is no excuse for not impeaching these animals.

Unless you just happen to love their war policy, just like the Lieberman wing of the Democratic Party does.

[gateley]

42. I'm not sure there's TIME to pursue impeachment -- too busy putting out

all the fires that these guys have lit. Countless!

I do have a question I've been wondering about. Could Bush, et al, be charged with crimes without being impeached first?

[Usrename]

101. Not if you follow the Starr investigation for a precedent.

Apparently Starr thought he had caught Clinton in some real crimes that he referred to the House of Representatives (it turned out that he was wrong about the crime part of his referral).

I think that is how it has to be done now, since there really is no single law enforcement agent that would have authority or jurisdiction to effect an arrest of the POTUS or VP, even though I would love to see the Sargent at Arms of the House give it a whirl.

Impeachment, if they were serious about it and did not pursue it just to drag it out as long as possible to make political hay, could happen very quickly. Two or three weeks, tops. Most of the investigation has been done and the evidence just needs to be presented twice. Refusal to respond to Congressional inquiries is enough to toss the bastards. Just the crimes we already know about are enough.

And who in their right mind in the Senate would defend them? Who is really going to stand with Bush? I just don't buy the argument that there are not enough votes to convict.

[f the letter]

32. oh you bastard

let the phone calls begin

[Danger Mouse]

33. dear god, he's a madman...

:scared:

[struggle4progress]

34. JoLie rakes inb campaign $ from "defense" contractors. They profit from war. It's that simple

[Kaleko]

36. News like this are like a constant series of shocks administered

to the collective body. This living organism is being battered into hopelessness, submission.

We have to be so strong...

[jgraz]

37. I'd be in favor of attacking Iran as long as we strapped Joementum to the first bomb we dropped

OK, not really, but it's a nice mental image.

[ProudDad]

52. Ah, you mean visualize Slim Pickens

[dugggy]

38. Iran is the last threat remaining to Israel

Holy Joe is doing his best to protect Israel.

Also, if Iran follows N. Korea and gives up
nuclear bomb making, Iran will not be attacked.

[Chulanowa]

44. American warmongers like yourself are a larger threat to Israel

Because you constantly instigate and propagandize in an effort to destabalize and escalate conflict in the region, always with Israel's name on your lips - which goes a long way towards making more enemies for Israel and further hardlining extremist factions.

Furthermore, Iran is no threat to Israel - propaganda and fake quotes made up by your "team" aside - and is not persuing a nuclear bomb. In fact the only "proof" that Iran is making a bomb, as you claim, is that they deny it and we have no evidence, which in your warped little world, MUST mean that they are lying and hiding it.

If you want a war with Iran so bad, dugggy, here's my suggestion - buy yourself a gun, a rifle or perhaps some semiautomatic. Lead the fucking charge.

[dugggy]

114. I am just going by what Ahmedinejad just said himself..

that they have 3000 centrifuges in working mode.
There is ONLY 1 USE for those...enrichment of uranium
for making bombs. So, again I am going by what leaders
in Iran are saying themselves. Ahmedinejad also said
in NEW YORK that he likes jews but wants Israel destroyed.

So, are you saying he is a liar?

[ProudDad]

51. Bullshit

the only way Iran can AVOID being attacked is to do what N. Korea did and get their own bomb...

[dugggy]

115. N. Korea no longer has nuclear bombs..

They have given up that project and will be supervised
by the IAEA inspectors.

[LaStrega]

39. done + k + r (edit:) n/t

[Digit]

41. K&R

[gateley]

43. I don't think either the Dems or R's will fall for the "including diplomatic,

economic, intelligence" wording again. Please god.

[Mass]

68. If it comes to a vote, you may be surprised...

Here are a couple of previous votes of the same type:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00242

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00245

[gateley]

76. Well the nunmber of 'yeas' is certainly overwhelming, but both of those --

at least as I can glean from the little blurbs -- seem to be requiring study, proof and accountability of any potential actions. Not authorizing any actions or giving anyone power to act. I'm interpreting these as a way to NOT let Iraq happen again. I have hope that those who voted for these understand what these will and will not allow.

[everydayis911]

45. Joe is doing

His best for Israel. A lot of our government does there best for Israel. This whole war is for Israel. Oil just happens to be there. The people of Iran had a candle light vigil for 9/11 victims. Nutnyahoo said "9/11 is good for Israel" Joe is too sympathetic to Israel and Israel wants us to bomb Iran. But I think China and Russia will have the last launch at us. So these idiots better wake the fuck up.

[ProudDad]

50. cheney/bush is doing it for oil

the christianists are doin' it to bring on the rapture...

lieberman is doin' it for his real homeland...

[Supersedeas]

98. the citizens on Connecticut can be so proud of Holy Joe.

[cali]

102. The whole war is for israel?

snap out of it. It's for U.S. domination and oil. Get a grip. AIPAC has influence, but if you actually think bush/cheney went to war to protect Israel, I've got a bridge for you.

[txwhitedove]

46. Done, done and K&R.

[NoGodsNoMasters]

47. What the hell is wrong with Lieberman????

This guy is absolutely batshit. This guy needs serious psychological help. Or a lobotomy....

[ProudDad]

49. He's utterly wacko about Israel

He's actually the Senator from Israel, not Conn.

And the Senate needs a liebermanectomy...fast!

[ProudDad]

48. Damn

I can't help...I live in Arizona...

I'm stuck with kyl and that mental defective mccain...

[eridani]

53. I suppose it doesn't do any good to rattle their chains occasionally? n/t

[ProudDad]

95. We do rattle their chains occasionally

but it's a lost-lost cause...

There's no reasoning with that fascist kyl -- and mccain lost his "reason" years ago...

[annabanana]

55. Major media distraction (UN) is in play. .WE MUST keep our eye on the ball.

Anyone who hasn't contacted their rep MUST do so today. A declaration of War against Iran is silpped into the FY 2008 Defense Authorization bill by notee warmonger Lieberman and b*sh faithful Kyle...

[deacon]

56. This big fake lieberman, he is is digrace to congress.

[Tyler Durden]

57. Kicked, Recommended and Mailed to congress.

[Ganja Ninja]

58. What is the deal with Lieberman?

He couldn't be more of a stooge for this administration if he had been born out of the womb of Barbara Bush herself.

[yellerpup]

59. Done.

K&R. :kick:

[Gman]

60. Report: Cheney aide clearing path to bomb Iran

RAW STORY
Published: Thursday May 24, 2007

A report published today reveals a growing game of tug-of-war between President Bush and his No. 2 regarding the US approach towards Iran.

Vice President Dick Cheney believes the US should not be pursuing a diplomatic path with Iran, and a senior aide to the vice president has been meeting with national security think tanks and consultants in Washington to "help establish the policy and political pathway to bombing Iran," Steve Clemons reported Thursday on his blog, The Washington Note.


http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Report_Cheney_aide_clearing_path_to_0524.html

[druidqueen]

61. ALL War is a defeat for humanity.

Done. Senators Snowe & Collins (both R- ME) have been notified.

[progressoid]

62. Will be contacting my senators this morning.

[penndragon69]

66. Exile Liberscum.

We should pack ol'e turn coat liberscum in a crate and send him into exile to Israel! He loves to do their dirty work so much he should be in the Kinnesset, not congress. Burn in hell Liberbum!

[Mass]

67. It will probably pass as the two other ones passed, with either an ovewhelming majority or an UC.

As these are senses of the Congress, Dems think it is a good way to look tough without consequences.

[peacetalksforall]

69. Can anyone explain? Some on DU have said that Congressional

approval is not required to bomb Iran - that it was previously included in something?

Wha are the fine lines we're trying to follow here?

I believe that Leibermen and Kyl would not do this for Dick if it wasn't going to clarify something that Dick/PNAC/barons need?

I haven't called in yet, but isn't getting the Senators to debate the risk of retaliation from Russia and China a key request for this Israel protection measure by L 7 K? No one seems to bring that up? Retaliation discussions is what our State Dept should be doing FOR US, but we have war loving, death loving, body destroying people running this country who work for corporations and Israel instead of us. Instead of working for peace.

How can any person of a sound mind vote for more death, debt, destruction, deceit?

Where are the people who said it's already included in the approval given for Iraq or a subsequent approval to extend the war?

[robinlynne]

92. I think that is the military commissions act, but cannot remember the details.

[sinkingfeeling]

71. Done. We must stop the lunacy!

[benld74]

73. DONE

[urgk]

74. An easy K&R (n/t)

[reggie the dog]

75. WWIII

I would hope that the Democrats in the House would block such a bill from passing.

[TechBear_Seattle]

77. That son-of-a-bitch bastard

To every last one of you Connecticut Democrats who betrayed the party and voted for Lieberman:

GO TO F-ING HELL.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

88. They betrayed the COUNTRY by voting for Lieberman. n/t

[FREEWILL56]

97. Don't be so quick to judge.

See my post #96 as LIEberman wasn't nominated by the dems.

[TechBear_Seattle]

99. I know he wasn't. What part of "betrayed the party" did you miss from my post?

However, a great many Democrats campaigned for this bastard, including Senator Clinton. He won with the support of a significant number of registered Democrats as well.

[FREEWILL56]

116. Sorry. I stand corrected.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

78. done

[femrap]

79. voinovich's phones are

backed up....I've been disconnected once...and now trying again. At least I don't have to bug Sherrod Brown...he's one of the few good guy.

Got thru finally...stop the talk and VOTE against WAR.

[me b zola]

80. k&r

[Limelight]

82. K&R...

My message to my reps and papers:

I'm not sure what kind of lunacy has infected Senator Joe Lieberman. I can only assume it was a bite from a werewolf or vampire that has him baying at the moon and frothing at the mouth the way he has when it comes to supporting the old (Iraq) and new and various ways (Iran) to get Americans killed for no good reason. At least then his seemingly unquenchable thirst for blood would make some kind of sense. However, his idiocy (its not really intelligent enough to be lunacy) has to be stopped. This ridiculous, under the table/under the cover of darkness, defacto declaration of war against Iran in the Lieberman-Kyl Amendment On Iran must be struck with a silver bullet or stake through the heart so it can be laid to rest.


That about says it all for me when it comes to LIEberman.

[PhilipDC]

84. Hmmm, not so sure

I'm certainly no Lieberman defender, but this is a little misleading. For one thing, it only includes a portion of the amendment. I would take it a little more seriously if the ENTIRE amendment were quoted instead of one portion. The amendment was NOT filed yesterday--it is not listed in the Congressional Record. I would assume it is being filed today. Lieberman and Kyl did discuss the amendment yesterday (see today's Congressional Record pg. S11969-S11973). According to them, the actual purpose of the amendment is for the State Dept. to declare Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps as a foreign terrorist organization therby subjecting them to economic and diplomatic sanctions, not miltary action.

I know I get mad every time I hear Republicans claim that Democrats in Congress endorsed military action in Iraq to remove Saddam back in the late 90s when in fact their bill was aimed at getting him out through sanctions and support for the opposition in Iraq. Without seeing the whole text of the Lieberman/Kyl amendment, I would hate to see Democrats pull the same misleading stunt.

[ringtailtooter]

90. I tried to find when the amendment was introduced also,

using the GovTrack.us site and the first time 202 other bills connected to Lieberman came up. The second time the site gave me an error message, too many inquiries, try later! I did find that it is an amendment to the FY 2008 Defense Authorization Bill. They are sliding it into the budget. Anyway, I did send my Senators the form email so they will be aware if not already.

[whistle]

85. Is Joe Lieberman an agent of Mossad? It sure smells like he is

....his actions are not at all for defending the the U.S. Constitution and it clearly does not appear that he represents the interests of the people of Connecticut!

[bhumikag]

86. LIEberman is going NUTS!!

crap!! its LIEberman again..this guy won't rest until the entire middle east is burning..hey old guy..news flash..Israel is also in the same region!!i hope this bill gets thrown where it belong..stinking pile of trash..

call the senators today..this guy's madness should be stopped..and ya..how about calling AIPAC?? tell them no one benefits with unstable middle east

bhumika
politics desk,Voxant Newsroom

[rhett o rick]

104. oh yea! Halliburton benefits from an unstable middle east. So there! nm

I said nm

[snappyturtle]

87. K&R done. nt

[nealmhughes]

93. Without the House any war declaration is ineffective -- they get to vote on it, too.

The Senate is reserved for trying impeachments and ratifying officers and treaties as a sole body. All money bills have to originate in the House and only they can impeach.

[navarth]

100. I just called

the offices of Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow. And I got two other guys here at work to do the same. FUCK Yeah.

Carl and Debbie usually vote the right way but it doesn't hurt to keep them from getting lazy.

[CanonRay]

103. I called Salazar, doubt it will do any good.

[RubyDuby in GA]

105. Well I called my two asshats - Chambliss and Isakson

Told them I was vehemently opposed to the Kyl-Lieberman amendment and expected them to vote against it.

I'm sooooo sure they will go against their masters and do exactly what I tell them to do :sarcasm:


On edit: but at least I called. Better than doing nothing!

[txaslftist]

106. AIPAC supports this amendment. It's in the bag.

Score one for the warmongers.

[MasonJar]

109. Done! I went to the link.

[bjobotts]

110. If we only knew then what we know now..now you know this is AUMF

no matter how they disguise it. Lieberman is in a big hurry to plunge us into another war without one single thought to the aftermath. He is most hated of all the backstabbing war mongers next to Cheney. He's got to go. Rather than focus on troop withdrawal or troop rotation he wants to get them killed for political reasons.

[freedomfries]

111. Reid: Lieberman-Kyl amendment being revised! Keep calling!

Reid: Lieberman-Kyl amendment being revised.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/reid-lieberman-kyl-amendment-being-revised/
At a press conference this afternoon, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said that the hawkish amendment on Iran being offered by Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Jon Kyl (R-AZ) is now being revised prior to a Senate vote on the matter:

REID: There are efforts being made before we vote on them to modify those two amendments, because people have issues with both of those amendments. So, until we finalize what they really want to do, I think it would be unwise for me to say that I support Kyl-Lieberman, or don’t support it. I think I have to wait until I see what they are finally going to come up with, because some people have some real substantive problems with what’s in that Kyl-Lieberman amendment.

The revisions to the Lieberman-Kyl amendment are most likely driven by concerns raised by Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA), who warned the amendment amounted to a declaration of war. 3:41 pm | Comment (26)
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/25/reid-lieberman-kyl-amendment-being-revised/

[cali]

113. kick it's only a start and

disappointing to hear Reid not staunchly echoing Webb, but it's a start.

[Junkdrawer]

117. ??? Where does this stand ????

:shrug:

[Supersedeas]

118. any word on the language in the revised amendment??