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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:19 PM
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Petraeus was a godsend; local Sunni tribal sheikhs could hardly believe their luck.....

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/II15Ak03.html

Petraeus' chaos strategy
Anbar is not pacified, contrary to official line, and Petraeus's tactics once again are deceptive. When in late 2005 he was writing the new Pentagon counterinsurgency manual, he was heavy on "paramilitary units" and "specialized paramilitary strike forces". These are actually the new Petraeus-supported and armed actors in Anbar: hardcore Sunni militias.

Some of their foot soldiers - receiving a handsome US$900 monthly salary in a land of 70% unemployment - are formerly unemployed "irregulars"; some are former Sunni guerrillas (the White House makes it sound as if they are all friendly now); and some were until recently working closely with al-Qaeda.

Call it Afghanistan remix. Petraeus was a godsend; local Sunni tribal sheikhs could hardly believe their luck. They had found an eager counterinsurgency messiah with large pockets. Now they can't get enough of the United States' cash, weapons, spanking-new uniforms, body armor, helmets, pickup trucks, high-tech information.

They can patiently build their own Sunni militias and/or death squads with no hassle. They can take their time to settle ancient, ever-evolving tribal scores. And sooner rather than later, they can turn on the occupiers themselves. All this financed with US taxpayers' money.

Petraeus's counterinsurgency game - arming Sunnis and Shi'ites alike - is the ideal recipe for non-stop sectarian hatred, the perfect justification for an indefinite US presence in Iraq. ...........
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:26 PM
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1. But the true goal of The Unitary Executive is to feed our tax dollars (Trillions of THEM!) ...
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 03:29 PM by ShortnFiery
to the War Machine. Anyone who lives here around the beltway KNOWS that there's *oodles* of defense contracting corporations lining-up in droves to suck all the life out of The Government's Tax Teats. :wow: :grr: :nuke:

Meanwhile, our troops die and are maimed needlessly, the American people suffer from lack of public works programs, decent health care access and other social benefits that are placed aside in favor of our Almighty War Machine and the Corporate Contractors who far too often inflate costs, thereby STEALING our hard earned tax dollars. :(

And it's all perfectly legal. :grr:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:35 PM
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2. the civil war is the point -- without it boosh is sunk
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:29 PM
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3. important and clarifying
recommended to all
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:41 PM
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4. recommend
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:11 PM
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5. the scenario falls in line with allowing the weapons bunkers to be "looted"...creating an enemy ...
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 07:34 PM by tiptoe
..."creating a reality"...

Neocon perpetual wars requires armed opposition.

Grover Norquist's "war".
MIC "war"

No relationship with 9/11...which, in case anyone's forgotten...

STILL NEEDS RE-INVESTIGATION...i.e. who's behind the obvious INSIDE JOB, including the DEMOLITION JOB...the murders of 3000 at the WTC...who in the Pentagon is responsible for the phony-Bin Laden tape(s).

Consider, too The Reason Cheney/Bush Outed Valerie Plame Wilson?

And, likewise BCCI figure AQ Khan back in news. US sez Syria trying to get nukes

And American Judas


Overview of Contents

Part One: Recap and Update
A. 1st edition recap
B. Plame related news update

Part Two: Office of Special Plans
A. CTEG - The "Wurmser-Maloof" project
B. WMD planting story

Part Three: Ghorbanifar & Ledeen: Iran/Contra Redux
A. Ghorbanifar sells phony Iran/Iraq WMD story
B. Ghorbanifar/Ledeen meeting: Dec. 2001 in Rome
C. Ledeen's history with Italian intelligence

Part Four: AIPAC Spy Scandal
A. Franklin guilty of espionage
B. Other suspected neo-con spies for Israel
C. Contents of the documents

Part Five: Niger Forgeries
A. Michael Ledeen
B. Duane Clarridge

Part Six: Sibel Edmonds
A. The Dickersons
B. 9/11 foreknowledge
C. Gag order & cover-up
D. The American-Turkish Council

Essentially, there is only one investigation – a very big one, an all-inclusive one. Completely by chance, I, a lowly translator, stumbled over one piece of it. But I can tell you there are a lot of people involved, a lot of ranking officials, and a lot of illegal activities that include multi-billion-dollar drug-smuggling operations, black-market nuclear sales to terrorists and unsavory regimes, you name it. And of course a lot of people from abroad are involved. It's massive. So to do this investigation, to really do it, they will have to look into everything… That's the beauty of it. You can start from the AIPAC angle. You can start from the Plame case. You can start from my case. They all end up going to the same place, and they revolve around the same nucleus of people. There may be a lot of them, but it is one group. And they are very dangerous for all of us.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:25 PM
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6. I wonder what percentage of our troops have been killed with US paid
weapons.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:25 PM
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7. Petraeus is simply repackaging defeat.
The goal of this administration was to disarm militias, stop the ethnic cleansing, and establish a strong and friendly centralized government. Now they have done a 180° to save face. They couldn't disarm the militias so they are now claiming the "local security forces" as a victory. They couldn't stop the ethnic cleansing, so they are now touting the drop in sectarian violence that invariably accompanies ethnically cleansed areas. The central government government is weak and of dubious allegiance, so now tribal governance taste like chocolate pudding. :eyes:

Spin spin spin spin spin spin spin

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