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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:41 AM
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Financial Security and 2008
With the credit crisis brought on by the subprime lending fiasco expected to cost the American economy $350 billion this year and next, Financial Security will be a very big issue for the presidential elections. Somebody recently called it "perfect storm of financial unease" building across the nation.

Looking at how we got from there to here, we're always reminded of the Great Depression and how rampant, unregulated greed brought in its wake great suffering, poverty, hunger, homelessness, and joblessness for very many Americans. In the New Deal era, as we know, government stepped up with social and public works programs to help bring on economic recovery and strict banking laws and federal regulations to prevent the financial services industry from re-forming itself into another engine of economic catastrophe.

A familiar example of such consumer-protective legislation beginning in that era is FDIC, insuring bank deposits for account holders. But there was a whole collection of laws enacted then that were consumer and market protective, which came under the general heading of "Glass-Steagall" that restricted financial services such as banking, insurance, stock brokerages, etc. from running entirely hog wild and causing a New Great Depression.

Frontline did a documentary and the PBS site gives very good background on all of this on a page called "The Wall Street Fix."

The Long Demise of Glass-Steagall

A chronology tracing the life of the Glass-Steagall Act, from its passage in 1933 to its death throes in the 1990s, and how Citigroup’s Sandy Weill dealt the coup de grâce.

Glass-Steagall Act creates new banking landscape

Following the Great Crash of 1929, one of every five banks in America fails. Many people, especially politicians, see market speculation engaged in by banks during the 1920s as a cause of the crash.

In 1933, Senator Carter Glass (D-Va.) and Congressman Henry Steagall (D-Ala.) introduce the historic legislation that bears their name, seeking to limit the conflicts of interest created when commercial banks are permitted to underwrite stocks or bonds. In the early part of the century, individual investors were seriously hurt by banks whose overriding interest was promoting stocks of interest and benefit to the banks, rather than to individual investors. The new law bans commercial banks from underwriting securities, forcing banks to choose between being a simple lender or an underwriter (brokerage). The act also establishes the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), insuring bank deposits, and strengthens the Federal Reserve’s control over credit.

The Glass-Steagall Act passes after Ferdinand Pecora, a politically ambitious former New York City prosecutor, drums up popular support for stronger regulation by hauling bank officials in front of the Senate Banking and Currency Committee to answer for their role in the stock-market crash.

In 1956, the Bank Holding Company Act is passed, extending the restrictions on banks, including that bank holding companies owning two or more banks cannot engage in non-banking activity and cannot buy banks in another state.



The financial services industry spent most of the 20th century lobbying away at these laws and diminishing them until finally in 1999 they succeeded in having them repealed by Congress.

On Mother Jones' list of Top 10 Worst Corporations of 1999:

Citigroup: The standard in political corruption

Citigroup played the lead role in ushering the "Financial Services Modernization Act" through the US Congress, in the process joining with the rest of the financial services industry to set a new standard in legalized bribery. The Act will tear down the regulatory walls between banks, and insurance companies and securities firms, paving the way for a massive concentration of financial wealth and a future of industry bailouts, weakening the Community Reinvestment Act and permitting huge intrusions on consumer privacy.


S.900: Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 had only 8 Nays in the Senate; clearly, many good liberal Democrats saw it as a good law, but these eight didn't:

NAYs —8
Boxer (D-CA)
Bryan (D-NV)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Shelby (R-AL)
Wellstone (D-MN)

Others saw the danger, too. Molly Ivins wrote in Mother Jones:

As a member of the Senate Finance Committee and the recipient of enormous banking contributions, Gramm did an even bigger favor for the financial industry in 1999 when he sponsored the Financial Services Modernization Act allowing banks, securities firms, and insurance companies to combine. The bill weakened the Community Reinvestment Act, which requires banks to help meet the credit needs of low- and moderate-income neighborhoods. Gramm described community groups that use the CRA as “protection rackets” that extort funds from the poor, powerless banks. The bill is also a disaster for the privacy of bank customers and weakens regulatory supervision. As Gramm proudly declared, “You’re not going to find a single bank, insurance company, or securities company that will say they were hurt financially by this bill.”


The line from repeal of "Glass-Steagall" to the Financial Services Modernization Act to the current credit crisis is surely not as straight as it might seem, but this week a Market Watch columnist at least asks the question, "Would Glass-Steagall save the day from credit woes?"

Time was when banks and brokerages were separate entities, banned from uniting for fear of conflicts of interest, a financial meltdown, a monopoly on the markets, all of these things.

In 1999, the law banning brokerages and banks from marrying one another -- the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 -- was lifted, and voila, the financial supermarket has grown to be the places we know as Citigroup, UBS, Deutsche Bank, et al.

But now that banks seemingly have stumbled over their bad mortgages, it's worth asking whether the fallout would be wreaking so much havoc on the rest of the financial markets had Glass-Steagall been kept in place.

Diversity has always been the pathway to lowering risk. And Glass-Steagall kept diversity in place by separating the financial powers that be: banks and brokerages.

-snip

Glass-Steagall would have at least provided what the first of its names portends: transparency. And that is best accomplished when outsiders are peering in. When every one is on the inside looking out, they have the same view. That isn't good because then you can't see things coming (or falling) and everyone is subject to the roof caving in.

-snip

Glass-Steagall forced separation. Something like it, where conflicts and losses can be mitigated, should be considered again.

More:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/would-glass-steagall-save-day-credit/story.aspx?guid=%7B3AA33D85%2DAD38%2D41B4%2DB300%2D033235B5734A%7D



It makes sense to me. Our candidates need to be out front on this issue, because alongside national security it's going to be all about financial security in 2008. As Congress repealed Glass-Steagall, helping the financial services community do its damage, they can repeal the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 and help the rest of us, right or wrong?








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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:01 AM
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1. Thanks important issue K&R...
need to read more later.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:27 AM
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2. Thanks
I rarely post issues threads anymore, they sink so fast.

:kick:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:03 PM
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8. It is not an easy issue, especially for those not paying attention
at the time :(
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:02 PM
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3. There were 86 House votes against
Naturally including Conyers, Kucinich, Maxine Waters and Bernie Sanders

http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=1999&rollnumber=276

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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:14 PM
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4. It is in these details that the sell out of working Americans transpires
Corporate Democrats and those afraid to oppose monied interests cooperate in rigging the system in low profile acts of legislation that usually go little reported on, and then with the system safely rigged they are free to grandstand as progressives fighting for the poor and working classes.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:24 PM
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5. Thanks for the confirmation, Tom
I've been stewing about this but thought maybe I didn't know enough about finances to really speak to a connection between that legislation and the current situation. But then the columnist showed the correlation after a New York Times finance blogger led me there.

Would Glass-Steagall Have Blunted the Credit Crisis?

The modern era of banking began eight years ago. Was that such a good thing?

So asks MarketWatch’s Thomas Kostigen, who questions whether the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act in 1999 — allowing commercial banks and brokerages to exist under one roof — played a role in this summer’s credit troubles. It may not have been the cause, but by knocking down walls, it has made finding the blame-worthy that much harder, Mr. Kostigen argues.

Glass-Steagall (which actually consisted of two acts) was enacted during the Great Depression as a means to separate commercial banking activity from securities work. The idea, as Mr. Kostigen writes, was to ensure that each remained relatively undiluted and untampered with.

Its repeal — after an intense lobbying effort led by Citigroup’s Sanford I. Weill — did not lead us to the current credit crunch. Even Mr. Kostigen says that the creation and selling of the collateralized debt obligations did not stem from the ashes of Glass-Steagall.

But the faith in the power of the Chinese wall to prevent the improper mixing of “sellers, salesman and evaluators” is as misplaced now as it was during the heights of the tech boom, he contends, adding that the spirit of Glass-Steagall, where different actors stayed on their separate stages, is something to consider resurrecting.


http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/10/would-glass-steagall-have-blunted-the-credit-crisis/



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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:49 PM
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6. I guess it would take another
Great depression to get Americans to pull the heads out their arses...and support common sense regulations.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:52 PM
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7. Kick and...
"Several weeks after testifying to two subcommittees of the Senate Banking Committee, Fed Governor
Laurence Meyer received a letter from eight senators admonishing the Fed for its stance on merchant banking and demanding a more lenient approach.

But only the Merchant Banking Eight have so wholeheartedly aligned themselves with the grievances of Chase, Wells Fargo and the largest financial conglomerates."

posted here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3448146&mesg_id=3452557



I glanced through some of the below links but it is a very complex issue, so I'll just post them for possible??? future reference.


WINNERS AND LOSERS FROM ENACTING THE FINANCIAL
MODERNIZATION STATUTE*

36 pages
http://www2.bc.edu/~kaneeb/FSMA.051019.pdf


CRS Report for Congress Major Financial Services Legislation,
The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (P.L. 106-102):
An Overview
Updated December 16, 1999

15 pages
http://www.epic.org/privacy/glba/RL30375.pdf


The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act

http://www.epic.org/privacy/glba/


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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 08:19 AM
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11. Terrific, slipslidingaway
I'm going to read through all of those when I get back in later today. Any others you come across, please post in this thread. I have it on my DU Journal, so I can find it all again.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 11:33 AM
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14. Good luck...
I got a headache and overcooked dinner lol.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 12:12 PM
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15. I know
We need to get Milo_Bloom or somebody in here who knows WTF about this stuff.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:51 PM
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9. It looks like you're right,
but it's going to take me awhile to re-read everything and digest it.

It (Financial Services Modernization Act) sounds ominous though: The bill is also a disaster for the privacy of bank customers and weakens regulatory supervision. As Gramm proudly declared, “You’re not going to find a single bank, insurance company, or securities company that will say they were hurt financially by this bill.”


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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 09:30 AM
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13. Be sure to check out the Frontline piece
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/

It makes it much clearer for someone not as versed in this stuff. I have to say it's a struggle for me wading through low matters of high finance.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 12:19 PM
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16. Thanks, I'll read anything that simplifies wall street, banking
and economics, but I'd like to see some imput from DUers who have more knowledge about this too.

Kick for more discussion.:kick:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:19 PM
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10. Wow - great post! B,K, & R!
(Bookmarked)
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 08:27 AM
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12. When I see Feingold and Wellstone's names together on anything,
I'm more than sold.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 02:35 AM
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17. Great timing
I caught a blurb someplace about the Democrats who favored this mess when it was coming down. Dodd's name was mentioned. I've started to like Dodd and thus wanted to know more....or maybe I didn't. So I've been avoiding any real digging into what actually happened. Now you've made it easy.

This is very important.
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IamyourTVandIownyou Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 02:42 AM
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18. Lose the Fed.
.
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