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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:15 AM
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REQUIRED READING: Everyone must buy this book...
and I want a written report after you're finished reading it. Due date: ASAP

OK, I know I can't force you to read anything. But, if I could it would be this book:



Title: "don't think of an elephant! KNOW YOUR VALUES AND FRAME THE DEBATE" THE ESSENTIAL GUIDE FOR PROGRESSIVES

Author: George Lakoff

It was published in 2004. It won't take you long to read, only about 120 pages long---ESSENTIAL READING, IMO.

I apologize if you all already knew about this. I'm a little late sometimes. But, IMHO, it is ESSENTIAL that we understand the concepts in this book.

Quit talking/debating using CONSERVATIVE FRAMES....REFRAME THE DEBATE.

THEN GO HERE, and browse around this website:

www.rockridgeinstitute.org

You'll be glad you did.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:18 AM
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1. Can I borrow yours when you're done?
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:20 AM
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2. I'm done. And, sure.
But, I want it back! Is there a library close to your home? If they don't have a copy, let me know where to send it. PM me.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:22 AM
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3. I read it three years ago
Framing is okay as far as it goes, but there's more to victory than that, IMO.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:24 AM
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4. I agree with that....
but, it is an essential ingredient that it seems we don't put in the mix.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:25 AM
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5. Yes, you have to stand for something and not be afraid to speak out.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:35 AM
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8. He says that, too.
Really, he does.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:25 AM
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6. yep. I was over Lakoff about two minutes after I heard him speak...
Edited on Thu Sep-06-07 08:26 AM by wyldwolf
Rebranding or rewording old ideas simply will not fool many people.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:34 AM
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7. I see you haven't read the book...
That's NOT what he's talking about. He's talking about articulating our VALUES...not about "rebranding" old ideas. He talks about strategic initiatives that help us....

never mind.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:36 AM
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9. not only did I read the book when it came out, I own the DVD and have seen him live.
Any questions? When people stop laughing at you for saying "membership fees" instead of taxes, let me know.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:53 AM
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10. Well, I guess you weren't over him
two minutes after you heard him speak, if you own the DVD, have read the book and heard him speak.

And, again, IMO, though you may have read the book, you haven't quite understood what he was saying. He even stated that merely changing the terminology is NOT what he is talking about. He wouldn't, IMO, be for using "membership fees" in place of "taxes." He is for using the word "taxes" but put in a FRAME that helps people understand that TAXES are what people owe society for the benefits that society provides.

Again, never mind.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:58 AM
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11. Sure I was. See, you know nothing about me or my experiences
I heard him speak at a book signing. Some time later, I was sent the DVD and asked to review it.

Sorry. :(

But you're right. Never mind.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 09:24 AM
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15. My apologies.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 09:34 AM
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16. yes,
but the teevee gnews are using the republikkkan's framing the issues. we have to fight fire WITH fire. and just be better.
can't just assume the sheeple 'get it'.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 09:02 AM
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12. Can I also recommend "Food Fight" by Daniel Imhoff?
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 09:23 AM
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14. Thanks.
I appreciate it. Looks like it might be a good read.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 09:07 AM
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13. congressional democrats have never even heard of this book evidently. nt
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