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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:47 PM
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MyDD Todd Beeton: Obama "reactionary AND stuck in reverse..."


Breaking: Obama Warns Of Divisive Politics

by Todd Beeton, Mon Sep 03, 2007 at 08:27:24 PM EST
It's always interesting to see which traditional media stories about the presidential campaign emerge as major online headlines. Today, the so-called first day of the final stretch of the presidential race, the yahoo frontpage featured a headline that read "Obama Warns Of Return To Divisive Politics," which was subsequently changed, it appears, to "Obama Critiques Clinton." (article is here.)

The point, of course, is that neither of these things amounts to news in and of itself, although Obama's comments featured within the article arguably do insofar as they represent a new formulation of his call for a new kind of politics married with his persistent attempt to knock Clinton down a peg.

"As bad as this administration has been, it's going to take more than just a change in parties to truly turn this country around," Obama told supporters at a Labor Day rally.

"George Bush and Dick Cheney may have turned divisive, special interest politics into an art form, but it was there before they got to Washington. If you and I don't stand up to challenge it, it will be there long after we leave."


While Obama doesn't mention Clinton, the article makes clear that these remarks were in direct response to comments that appeared in Clinton's new stump speech, which she unveiled in New Hampshire yesterday:

"I've learned you bring change by working in the system established by the Constitution. You can't pretend the system doesn't exist," she maintained, seeking to counter arguments by rivals Barack Obama and John Edwards that she has been too cozy with the Washington establishment.


A new way of expressing her theme of experience = change. But while the article portrays the speech as a response to Obama and Edwards, I see it as more of a taunt. Clinton has seen the pattern -- she is attacked and her poll numbers rise; so why wouldn't she want to invite more? And today Obama took the bait. Clinton is clearly driving the debate at this point and Obama here appears reactionary AND stuck in reverse. The fact that he returns to the same language he was using in March tells me he really hasn't come very far in building a case for his candidacy rhetorically. Where's the forward momentum on this day, that is supposed to represent a new phase in the campaign? Hillary Clinton spent yesterday and today campaigning with Bill in New Hampshire and Iowa launching a new stump speech. John Edwards spent his Labor Day accepting the endorsements of The United Steelworkers union and the United Mine Workers of America in Pittsburgh. And Barack Obama spent his in New Hampshire yet again reacting to Clinton by yet again warning of division in politics.

For someone as inspiring as Obama is, I'm not feeling terribly inspired.


http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/9/3/202724/1731

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:55 PM
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1. Sounds like the entire political world's ready to write Obama off.
Well fine. Nothing seems to upset people more than suggesting that rancid divisions are bad.

To the extent Gordon Brown's doing it in Britain, he's being torn apart for it too.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:59 PM
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2. Another ridiculous rant by a blogger in the tank for another candidate.
Edited on Mon Sep-03-07 10:01 PM by jefferson_dem
What should a campaign be about other than candidates offering competing visions?

Obama's "new politics" offering is clearly something different than Hillary's charge to work "within the system"...

Why should we care that Mr. Beeton is not inspired by Obama's message anyway? Perhaps he's part of the problem.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:01 PM
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5. Or perhaps...
Obama's message is ringing hollow...not just this bloggers opinion...plenty of numbers to back it up...
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:00 PM
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3. They both suck. Edwards rox.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:01 PM
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4. the fact that she is acting/reacting is the point
If she were confident in her position in the race, she wouldn't engage.

Gobama.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:05 PM
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8. Hardly...
Obama's been on the same jag the entire time, not getting anywhere with it...he tries in his sly way to lump in the Clintons in with the abuses of the current regime (as does Edwards), and drops a few points everytime he does it. Democrats are not in a mood to let bygones be bygones with these people, and equating someone as popular within the party as Hillary with the Republicans just makes him look petty....also doesn't jibe with the assertions about the Clintons he made in his book...
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:13 PM
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14. What is confounding is saying change for the future means going backwards in time
Should we all listen to classic rock too? 90's hits?

The only change I see is from a Bush to a Clinton to a Bush...to a Clinton. We can do a lot better than that.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:21 PM
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16. Have you checked out the latest hairstyle craze?
Edited on Mon Sep-03-07 10:22 PM by jefferson_dem
They're called mullets and look something like this -->

Like, fer sure...

Hmmm...where was I in 1992? Like i want to go back there...NOT...
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:01 PM
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6. Which is why the race will come down to Clinton vs Edwards
n/t
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:04 PM
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7. This subjective mental masturbatory blogpuke brought to you by...
Edited on Mon Sep-03-07 10:05 PM by zulchzulu
...people too busy not getting it. Not getting it. By this guy.

But thanks for posting the only stuff that made sense...by Obama:

"As bad as this administration has been, it's going to take more than just a change in parties to truly turn this country around," Obama told supporters at a Labor Day rally.

"George Bush and Dick Cheney may have turned divisive, special interest politics into an art form, but it was there before they got to Washington. If you and I don't stand up to challenge it, it will be there long after we leave."


Amen, Barack. Amen.




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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:12 PM
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13. And how about that homage to "the system" we're now hearing from Hillary?
Edited on Mon Sep-03-07 10:13 PM by jefferson_dem
I didn't realize that until Beeton pointed it out but I sure hope Hillary keeps riding that stodgy, stale, establishment theme...

I just watched Obama and Hillary's speeches back-to-back. How the hell can there even be a question of which one is "inspiring"? Beeton must be in the "hired gun" payroll column.


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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:15 PM
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15. I hope she does too...
Because despite Obama and Edwards attempts to bamboozle voters into believing Bush and Clinton are somehow two sides of the same coin, voters know damn well the kind of actual governance practiced by the Clinton's is damn successful...
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:07 PM
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9. So what? I don't give a damn about what this blogger thinks.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:09 PM
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11. He makes a very good point...
And accurate I think...everytime Obama insinuates some connection between the behavior of the Republicans and Hillary, he drops in the polls...

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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:09 PM
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10. mydd is widely known to have an edwards agenda - nice try
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:10 PM
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12. there are alot of anti Hillary post on mydd too, enought to drive her flying monkeys crazy
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