Listen to Michelle Obama's whole DAMNED speech!

[wndycty]

Anyone DEMOCRAT who is trying to MANUFACTURE CONTROVERSY regarding Michelle Obama's speech is DESPERATELY TRYING TO SMEAR her and her husband. Andrea Mitchell broke it down this morning on the TODAY SHOW and played the whole speech and it was obvious she was talking about her kids.

The video will be online later today and I will repost.

THIS IS A MANUFACTURED CONTROVERSY, any DUer who attacks Michelle on this is not being objective but looking to exploit this situation. Again I look forward the posting Andrea Mitchell's report.

DRUDGE blew this thing out of proportion but the controversy did not start with Drudge it started with the Jennifer Hunter of the Chicago Sun-Times. I encourage everyone to POLITELY ask her for a retraction:

[e-mail]

What Hunter wrote:
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At another stop, in Atlantic, Michelle said she travels with her husband in part "to model what it means to have family values," adding "if you can't run your own house, you can't run the White House." She didn't elaborate, but it could be interpreted as a swipe at the Clintons.
-snip-

http://www.suntimes.com/news/hunter/518408,CST-NWS-hunter21.article

If you would like to write a letter to the editor:

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[xultar]

1. I agree and I applaud Michelle on this. I love her more each day.

[mod mom]

16. She certainly is endearing. I agree.

[wndycty]

40. Here is the link to the video of Michelle Obama's speech

http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=f6329169-cf5d-4212-b9f8-32cd375576cf&f=00&fg=

[wyldwolf]

2. wndycty, this isn't directed at you personally because I'm not familiar with your posting history...

...but a Barack Obama supporter crying about manufactured controversy is the height of hypocrisy.

[wndycty]

5. LOL you know me personally (well at least online)

We have chatted on DU for ages (weren't you a Clark supporter in 2004, like me?) see I have a long memory.

And you know there is a big difference between calling something out and crying, I ain't crying.

But you and I both know its a manufactured controversy. Its not like once you read or listen to the speech its obvious she was speaking about Hillary, rather its obvious she IS NOT SPEAKING ABOUT HILLARY.

Call me hypocrite if you want, but its M-A-N-U-F-A-C-T-U-R-E-D

I'm not blaming the Clinton camp for starting this. But ANY DUer who will claim that Michelle was going after Hillary (after they review the entire speech) is definitely MANUFACTURING controversy where one does not exist.

[wyldwolf]

10. -- remember - -- I said it wasn't about you personally... BUT...

There is a core of very active Obama supporters on DU who are the pros of manufactured controversy. and I could show you dozens of examples.

[wndycty]

12. If you want to do that go right ahead. . .

. . .I wasn't involved in that, but I would not be surprised if it has happened. So is this a case of fighting fire with fire? If so at least admit that. If you think its appropriate to sink to that level then so be it. But would you or would you not acknowledge that this is a manufactured controversy?

[wyldwolf]

17. it may be a case of fighting fire with fire, but...

... that is something the newer "d"emocrats who have jumped on board with Obama need to be aware of (like the Dean supporter in 2003-2004). There is NOTHING they can throw at the other candidates that can't be flung back.

[wndycty]

20. So is that an acknowledgement that this is a manufctured controversy?

:kick:

[wyldwolf]

21. I've not even read or heard anything of the speech. I simply haven't paid attention to her.

[wndycty]

23. Well then, when the TODAY SHOW report becomes available and you get to. . .

. . .hear the speech will you weigh the evidence and chime in as to what you believe she was trying to say?

According the TODAY SHOW website it will be available at 11:00 AM eastern.

[Colobo]

28. You should. She's wonderful.

[karynnj]

25. I agree - in addition to being a

speech that is consistent with Obama's themes, it is the type of "don't let them define Democrats as not having values" speech that everyone - from Lakoff down - has recommended after we had two very honorable, respectable men lose to Bush - with some saying it was because of values. (In fact, Kerry in 2006 gave a speech at Pepperdine College on faith and values. He explained at the beginning of the speech that he was giving this speech because he learned that if he did not define his faith and values, others would fill the void with a carricature. Here, Obama is avoiding that the first time out.)

There are two other observations,

1) Michelle Obama was speaking of her family - Could it be sensitivity on the part of Clinton supporters that even though Bill Clinton was solely responsible for the Clinton problems, any talk of the family values or marriage of another candidate could be interpreted as a swipe at the Clinton problems.

2) Given the top Republican choices, either Obama or Edwards could possibly make an issue of personal sleasiness of the Republicans. (Not directly - but by surrogates or just inference) Clinton can't - without having it rebound.

[MethuenProgressive]

3. An Obama-ite is whining about "MANUFACTURED CONTROVERSY"?

When Obama MANUFACTURES CONTROVERSY to hit Clinton and Edwards you cheer.
When his wife puts her foot in her mouth you cry MANUFACTURED CONTROVERSY!
:eyes:

[Connie_Corleone]

6. The controversy was MANUFACTURED by the media and rightwingers.

It's clear from what she said in her speech that she was talking about her own family.

It says more about some Clinton supporters who rushed to the conclusion that Michelle was talking about Hillary than anything else.

When did voting for the Iraq war become a manufactured controversy? Because that's the main thing I see Obama criticizing Clinton and Edwards on.

[wndycty]

9. Exactly and the DU Obama haters were quick, damned quick to fall for it!

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[Bake]

50. I'm not sure she was.

In the overall context, yes, she was talking about her family. But the money line was a throw-away line anyway -- one that any good speechwriter would applaud as a plausibly deniable jab (and the perfect sound bite).

Obama people whining about manufactured controversies! I'll just be damned. Whoda thunk it?

Bake

[wndycty]

7. Tell me what controversy Obama has manufactured?

Also I never accused Hillary of manufacturing this, I accused DUers who will claim that Michelle attacked Hillary AFTER reviewing the entire speech of manufacturing controversy.

[durrrty libby]

4. The Obama kids are still very young. Michelle can't get back to me with

her "expertise" after being a parent for 16-20 years.

Right now, she is a newbie and full of hot air

[wndycty]

8. Well this thread is not about Michelle's parenting expertise. . .

. . .not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. Its about whether or not she attacked Hillary and she did not. You can shift the argument so that you can get in a cheap shot at her, but it has not to do with the discussion at hand.

[durrrty libby]

14. "if you can't run your own house, you can't run the White House."

She implies that her family could run the WH, because of her awesome family values.

Her family is in the newbie stage, with not much experience. She hasn’t had a family long enough to know what she doesn’t know. Just like her hubby


I don't see it as taking a swipe at Clinton. She is actually taking a swipe at herself.

[wndycty]

18. So now you are saying she was taking a swipe at herself?

Getting desperate?

[durrrty libby]

19. Not desperate at all. Get real......take a look at the polls

[wndycty]

22. What do the polls have to do with Michelle Obama's parenting skills?

Why is Michelle Obama a target and why are people making up shit to target her?

[BluegrassDem]

11. And parenting at younger ages is more important than in latter years

So not sure what your point was there. Being a good parent from infancy to 6 years old is critical to a child's development in later years. So what parents do at a young age is extremely important to the overall development of a child.

[durrrty libby]

15. Yes parenting young children is important, but a parent doesn't

know what kind of a job they have done until the kids are out there making decisions

without the parent around. It's pretty easy when the parent has control 24/7. The real test is when the parent does not have round the clock control

Sorry that you don't get it.

[Bake]

51. Yeah, but six-year-olds don't usually flunk classes, get busted for weed,

steal cars, get pregnant or get their girlfriends pregnant, stay out late, drink too much beer ... etc.

Yeah, I thought it was easy too, when my kids were age 0 - 6 ...

Bake

[durrrty libby]

57. Indeed it is a piece of cake when they are little. They think you

are god until the teen years set in

Then, comes the real test of what you are made of

[sandnsea]

49. She didn't claim to be an expert

More manufactured bullshit. She was speaking to the difficulties in being a working woman, and all the pressures on women to try to do it all. She was speaking to always putting families first - not claiming to be a parenting expert. I'll take her newbie dedication to the hot air I've seen come out of you, any day of the week.

[Alamom]

13. In all fairness, "Drudge" is doing a lot of misrepresenting in the last few days.

Misquoting Sen. Clinton almost caused an Apocalyptic Burp here (DU) for the last two days.

There were others, but the truth was not told and Drudge seems to have been in the middle of it.

Maybe we should all check other sources.



edpn

[closeupready]

34. I didn't even know Drudge still had a website. lol

I visit there as often as Free Republic. :D 0 times in the last year, at least.

I like Michelle Obama. If her comment was a swipe at the Clintons, that's a pretty mild swipe.

[wndycty]

45. The good news is it was not a swipe

:kick:

[Bitwit1234]

24. ALL the democrat speeches, decisions and sayings that are negative

are manufactured by the press..When will everyone realize they are just trying to cut into the democrat's approval rating.

[LeFleur1]

26. This Isn't About Obama

This is about the disingenuiousness of the press. They've dodged the bullet again. They lied about what Michelle Obama said to up their ratings, and posters on here are tearing one another's candidates apart instead of seeing this for what it was.
The media already has blood on their hands from supporting this prez in his war.
This is how they intend to rewrite history (as the prez wishes) to say this hideous
White House and Cabinent did the right thing instead of what they really did.
These kinds of lies and this type of creative reporting is common for our 'free press' today, sad to say. Reporting facts is not going to get the ratings they need to keep their crappy companies going.

This isn't about what Michelle said. She stated a fact that had nothing to do with Hillary.

[wndycty]

27. Exactly

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[durrrty libby]

29. And would the Obama supporters be outraged if this

had to do with a different candidate's spouse and the big mean press? Hmmm???

[wndycty]

31. I'm not sure about other Obama supporters but when it comes to politics. . .

. . .I want to make sure whomever the Democratic nominee emerges from the primaries unscathed.

[durrrty libby]

33. "unscathed."? Then wrap them in foil and store in freezer

:eyes:

[ecstatic]

30. The "Clintons can't run their household" meme

It's strange that people automatically assumed that Mrs. Obama was talking about the Clintons. You look at their daughter, Chelsea--she is a shining example of what good parenting can do. Then you look at the out of control Bush twins. Why didn't people assume she was talking about Bush?

[wndycty]

32. Here is the link to the video

http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=f6329169-cf5d-4212-b9f8-32cd375576cf&f=00&fg=

[closeupready]

35. Exactly. It's ambiguous.

Even if it was about the Clintons, it's not that serious a remark.

[zulchzulu]

36. The MSM puppets are really good at "divide and conquer"...

This is a classic example.

Why spend time showing the whole speech or perhaps discussing the issues when you can conjure up a "catfight"... and we bite the bait. Again.

[wndycty]

38. Yeah and while I have a huge problem with MSM puppets. . .

. . .I have a bigger problem with DUers and other Democrats who are so quick to assume the worst without trying to understand the context. Kudos to NBC and Andrea Mitchell for showing more of her speech and proclaiming it as much ado about nothing, however even they played it up as well.

[sampsonblk]

37. Had it benefitted the Obama's they would accept the credit.

Then they have to accept the blame when it doesn't go their way.

[wndycty]

39. Huh?

Please explain.

[sampsonblk]

41. Easy

Its called being responsible. If Mrs Obama's comments had benefitted her husband's campaign, or hurt the Clinton campaign, she'd be out there repeating what she said again today. But since it has (apparently) not gone over very well, now a lot of people are claiming its all the media's fault.

Nonsense. She said it. She is responsible for how it is received.

[wndycty]

43. So for some on the DU ignorance is bliss. . .

. . .as far as I know she won't stop saying what she said, as a matter of fact the next time she delivers that line I expect there to be overwhelming applause.

The line is received well. I agree that too often people blame the media too much but this is not one of those instances. Even Chuck Todd, who last time I checked was a member of the media, said that her words are being twisted.

This is not even a misunderstanding, its grabbing one line and presenting it out of context. Ignorance must be bliss if you think this one even is about taking responsibility for words.

[Beaverhausen]

42. I assumed she was referring to Rudy's "family values"

and I said "right on!"

[wndycty]

44. She wasn't going after anyone, not even Rudy

Take minute to listen to the entire comment. . .anyone that wants to believe its a slam on anyone Rudy or Hillary is completely insane:

http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=f6329169-cf5d-4212-b9f8-32cd375576cf&f=00&fg=

[AtomicKitten]

46. I think this was debunked pretty good -

- especially because the charge originated from Drudge * ugh *

I really appreciate it spelled out with links for the skeptical sorts.

[wndycty]

47. Don't you think the crowd will now go CRAZY when she uses that line. . .

. . .I hope it stays in her speech and she uses it during the convention next year, it will bring down the house.

[AtomicKitten]

48. it was funny to actually see and hear her do that part of the speech

in it's entirety - she was crystal clear ... this brouhaha was seriously lame.

Michelle Obama is kicking some ass on the campaign trail and seems to be getting a favorable reaction from the Media Heathers which is good when it's good, but I expect the worse from the MSM so I'm never disappointed.

[democratsin08]

52. she was sure ripping the clintons

i am saddened the obamas have become attack dogs

[wndycty]

55. Oh isn't that cute

. . .you want to believe she was attacking the Clintons.

[ariesgem]

53. Laura Flanders Chimes in on CNN - "we know" she attacked Clinton

http://mediamatters.org/items/200708220011?f=h_latest

Summary: On Lou Dobbs Tonight, guest host Lisa Sylvester aired a clip of Michelle Obama saying: "Our view is that if you can't run your own house, you certainly can't run the White House." Air America Radio host Laura Flanders later agreed that the comment "was a swipe at Hillary Clinton." Sylvester, however, did not provide Obama's full comments on the topic, in which she talked about her own family and did not refer to another candidate.

On the August 21 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight, guest host Lisa Sylvester teased a segment on recent comments by Michelle Obama, wife of Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), by claiming that she "apparently blast Senator Hillary Clinton ." During the segment, Sylvester aired a clip of Mrs. Obama saying: "Our view is that if you can't run your own house, you certainly can't run the White House," and asked Air America Radio host Laura Flanders if the comment "was a swipe at Hillary Clinton." Flanders answered: "Yes, I think it was. I mean, I think we know that from the deadly silence that surrounded the comment from most of the pundits the last couple of days." Sylvester, however, did not provide Mrs. Obama's full comments on the topic, in which she talked about her own family and did not refer generally or specifically to any other candidates. Nor did Sylvester note that Barack Obama has denied that his wife was attacking Clinton.

As Media Matters for America documented, immediately after her comment about the ability to "run your own house," Mrs. Obama went on to discuss measures her family was taking to keep their children "grounded" while campaigning and the efforts the Obamas are making to ensure that their children will continue to "come first." From her August 16 remarks:

MICHELLE OBAMA: That one of the most important things that we need to know about the next President of the United States is, is he somebody that shares our values? Is he somebody that respects family? Is a good and decent person? So our view was that, if you can't run your own house, you certainly can't run the White House. So, so we've adjusted our schedules to make sure that our girls are first, so while he's traveling around, I do day trips. That means I get up in the morning, I get the girls ready, I get them off, I go and do trips, I'm home before bedtime. So the girls know that I was gone somewhere, but they don't care. They just know that I was at home to tuck them in at night, and it keeps them grounded, and, and children, the children in our country have to know that they come first. And our girls do and that's why we're doing this. We're in this race for not just our children, but all of our children.

EMAIL: [e-mail]

I just sent her an email.

[wndycty]

56. Flanders needs to get a clue

:kick:

[ellacott]

54. This was not a shot at Clinton,

She's said this at many appearances. You folks are too sensitive and it's appearing paranoid.

No one once thought that she could have been talking about Bush. She said who she was talking about. She said she was talking about her family.