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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:41 PM
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Obama smear debunked, Western forces killing civilians at a faster rate than insurgents have been
Fact Check: Obama on Afghanistan
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer

<SPIN>

"We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there," Obama said.

THE SPIN:

The suggestion whispered by Obama's opponents was that he was maligning the efforts of troops fighting in Afghanistan by stating they are "just" out there killing civilians.

The Republican National Committee simply repeated the comment as one of their "They Said It!" series used to highlight statements by opponents that supposedly put them in a bad light. RNC Chairman Mike Duncan followed up later in a statement demanding that Obama apologize for his "offensive" statement.

"It is hard to imagine that anyone who aspires to be commander in chief would say such a thing about our brave men and women in uniform," Duncan said. "Obama owes our armed forces an apology — today."

THE FACT CHECK:

A check of the facts shows that Western forces have been killing civilians at a faster rate than the insurgents have been killing civilians.

The U.S. and NATO say they don't have civilian casualty figures, but The Associated Press has been keeping count based on figures from Afghan and international officials. Tracking civilian deaths is a difficult task because they often occur in remote and dangerous areas that are difficult to reach and verify.

As of Aug. 1, the AP count shows that while militants killed 231 civilians in attacks in 2007, Western forces killed 286. Another 20 were killed in crossfire that can't be attributed to one party.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070814/ap_on_el_pr/obama_afghanistan_fact_check&printer=1;_ylt=AklBpCbc8BUK5W3TF8.wX2th24cA
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:44 PM
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1. Good for Nedra Pickler for reporting facts vs BS and explaining exactly why it was BS (nt)
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:48 PM
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2. She must have been replaced by one of the pod people
I'm shocked that she is writing anything defending a democrat.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:50 PM
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3. I did a double take at the byline.
Call me very cautiously optimistic at this point.


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