Ok...Hillary is rather impressive...

[jefferson_dem]

Regular visitors to this forum know well where my loyalties lie, and i'm not about to shift my support.

That being said, I have to give Hillary credit -- she knows her stuff and projects competence. I was standing in line at the bank today and she came across the teevee feed, which was dialed into CNBC. Hillary was talking about strengthening standards for mortgage brokers in order to protect consumers and help shield homeowners from excessive home foreclosures. That's not a softball-type topic for most pols but she handled it extremely well...i must say. Not to mention, I like her proposal.

Here's a link to the video -- http://www.cnbc.com/id/20157294

Now... :dilemma: where were we?

[rodeodance]

1. chuckle.

[flyarm]

3. let me add to your chuckle!! hahahahaha..eom

[JuniperLea]

6. Allow me to keep the laughter flowing...

I'm convinced she will work hardest for whomever greases her palm. Her explanation about how lobbyists work for the people was a pretty damn good chuckle too.

The real question here is: Why do the Republican media moguls want us to believe she is going to win the primary? And further, why do they want her to?

[NewYorkerfromMass]

25. is that crickets I hear? nt

[lazer47]

2. For a Senator that has been here since the war started

and was privy to the White House for 8 yrs, she is just not that Impressive

[juajen]

4. Sour grapes, perhaps?

N/T

[lazer47]

9. I don't believe I said anything about sour grapes

[damntexdem]

5. She certainly is:

she impresses me negatively every time she opens her mouth.


any Dem but Hillary!!!

[sandnsea]

7. Obama already hit on this

Maybe you missed it. His Urban Policy speech hasn't gotten anywhere near the coverage that it should have, it's full of excellent proposals that will really make a difference.

"As President, I'll create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund that would add as many as 112,000 new affordable units in mixed income neighborhoods. We'll also do more to protect homeowners from mortgage fraud and subprime lending by passing my plan to provide counseling to tenants, homeowners, and other consumers so they get the advice and guidance they need before buying a house and support if they get in to trouble down the road. And we will crack down on mortgage professionals found guilty of fraud by increasing enforcement and creating new criminal penalties."


http://www.barackobama.com/2007/07/18/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_19.php

[jefferson_dem]

8. Thanks...

;)

[papau]

10. Obama does not give size of Fund needed for 112,000 units, or the way its funded n/t

n/t

[sandnsea]

22. Long time Dem proposal

This is a popular Democratic idea which has been studied and introduced for years. There's not a whole lot of need to reinvent the wheel on it, there's just a need to get more people in Congress who are committed to helping poor folks.
http://www.nlihc.org/template/page.cfm?id=40

[papau]

37. the MIP increase is 150m per year and won't fund 112,000 units or the "1.5 m" units in the bill's

ewrite up (over 10 years)

it appears to be a diversion of the current FHA annual surplus - which I approve of - but I wish Obama made it clear - or at least referenced the current bill moving through Congress.

in any case how is this a post 2008 new idea?

[sandnsea]

39. Who said it was

I posted in reference to the mortgage situation.

[saracat]

11. The first politician to even speak about mortgages and pedatory loans was Edwards!

Months ago! and Hillary just NOW is speaking? Excuse me if I do nor "trust' the words of someone who supported the Bankruptsy Bill!

[19jet54]

13. Barney Frank

Was way before them all on this issue!

[saracat]

16. During this cycle!As a Presidential candidate!

[karynnj]

14. Hillary and Edwards voted for the 2001 bankrupcy bill

With shift in leadership because of Jeffords then 911, the bill never made it through the conference process to be sent to the President. It was in fact very similar to teh 2005 bill than Hillary voted to filibuster (that was the important bill - the Democrats needed 41 votes, which they didn't have - Hillary did not vote on the bill itself, where the Democrats need 51 votes to defeat it, because Bill was in the hospital for followup heart surgery and that vote was hopeless.

I am certainly not a Clinton fan - but we should be fair and accurate.

[saracat]

17. There was, I believe , another Bakruptsy Bill later that she supported.I will try to find it!

[saracat]

18. I stand corrected.Hillary voted for the first Bancruptsey Bill in 2001 but against the 2nd in 2005!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

26. How many ways can you spell bankruptcy?

or misspell as it were.

[saracat]

28. Sorry about that! Bankruptcy! I am a lousy typist too! I paid people to type my college papers! Sigh

[karynnj]

29. I think I gave you all the bills

It is fair to say she voted for the 2001 bill - she did. I only found out about that one by defending Hillary on not voting when her husband was in the hospital. So, yeah, she did vote for a bad bankruptcy bill, but so did Edwards - and in a way, it is worse for his stance of being the uber-progressive. He wasn't in his only Senate term.

[durrrty libby]

12. I really enjoyed the video you linked

Hillary comes across as a sensible, thoughtful trustworthy, and intelligent candidate.


Your post is a true breath of fresh air considering all the anti-Hillary trash posted here,
and I very much respect you for that. Thank You

[JuniperLea]

21. I respect you for your perspective...

Even though I don't share it with you.

Kindly refrain from sassy talk about those who have the right to express their diverse opinions, as they have granted you the same.

Peace.

[durrrty libby]

27. Your request to “Kindly refrain from sassy talk” has been voted upon

and the results are that the “sassy talk” will continue, unless I missed the announcement
that you are the new Administration at DU


Jackassery, assholery and libelous crapologists will be called out now, as in the past.

[peace13]

15. And where did she come in on the bankruptcy bill?

Ya gotta laugh.

[SaveElmer]

23. Uh...she opposed it...nt

[peace13]

24. Uh...thanks for that...n/t

[venable]

19. there are hundreds of thousands of people who can wax poetic on that subject

including most on DU...

its not rocket science, and it's basic to any domestic policy briefing.

she may or may not be impressive, but saying that we need to shield homeowners from excessive foreclosures, and the methods for that protection ...this is pretty basic stuff.

Just my opinion.

Each candidate has some area that they may shine above the others, but only slightly. It's a smart field.

HRC's principal area of expertise is HOW government works. But she doesn't know it more than Dodd or Biden or Kucinich, and I don't like her version of 'works' - ie the power brokers, the threats, the lobbyists, etc.

[Major Hogwash]

20. Maybe, but she didn't answer the question about health care very well.

She said there wasn't enough time to discuss all of it, but she acted like we didn't know her health care plan in '93 would have turned over control to the insurance industry and the HMO's - and that was not impressive to me at all.

[laugle]

30. Kudos to you for being fair and balanced. If all

BO supporters were like you, I might change my vote.....just kidding.....

I think you are turning out to be a favorite around here......uh oh........this should be interesting.......

[jefferson_dem]

31. Hey no problem, laugle.

Just trying to "keep it real"... :bounce:

[Ishoutandscream2]

32. Very classy post

Thank you. Oh, and for the more jaded, I am not a Hillary supporter.

[Broke Dad]

33. Nixon was competent and brilliant too . . .

Nixon ran on his experience in 1960 and in 1968. You have to admit that Nixon was competent and brilliant too. Hillary is Richard Nixon in drag. Read the Woodward book. Woodward ought to know.

Nixon promised to end the war in 1968 and he expanded the war. Hillary voted for W's war and she has said on more than one occasion that she will not end it. She will not pull the troops out. She will shoot first and ask questions later. That has worked sooo well under the Republicans. Bush lite anyone?

[Ishoutandscream2]

34. I'm nor saying I agree with the OP

I'm stating that it's a breath of fresh air to see a person who supports one candidate say something civil about another one. And here at DU, that's really refreshing.

You don't have to sell me about Hillary. I am not supporting her for the nomination. I am leaning toward Edwards at this point.

[laugle]

36. Nixon.....and Bill was brilliant & competent too and

(much more relevent), so is Hillary!

[Yael]

35. Hey -- thanks for the laugh break!

DK's joke about digging to China and Richardson's remark about continuing to take "your money" were hilarious. Thanks for keeping up the humor theme!

:hi:

[laugle]

38. Kick for objectivity