1980: Reagan beats Carter by a pitiful 9.7 %...a real squaker...

[SaveElmer]

Even less than the puny 12 point lead Hillary has in the polls right now!!!



edit for bad math

[RubyDuby in GA]

1. Well, at least Georgia had to good sense to see what a disaster Reagan would be!

Big fat I Told You So from the Peach State :P

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

19. Yeah, But They Voted For * Twice, Didn't They??

Reagan might have been bad, but he's no King George.

[RubyDuby in GA]

22. Well, I'm personally blaming Reagan and Bush I's cuts in education

GA became so goddamned stupid (with only a brief moment of sanity in 92) that really it's easy to see why we're at the bottom.

Sample of what we deal with, a letter to the editor in today's Atlanta Journal-Constitution:
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/printedition/2007/07/18/letts.html

Stand united with U.S. chiefs

Why do a majority of Americans, and especially the media, have to be so disrespectful to our highest officers of this land, the president and vice president of the United States?

We should respect our leaders and not try to destroy them. We need to be united as one nation again, not this divided nation we have become. We are so busy whining about who called who what that we are forgetting about the enemy that is trying to take over our great nation.

People, if you do not open your eyes to the truth and see just how close the terrorists are coming into this nation to try to take over our government and destroy our economy, you must be asleep.

We as a people need to be one again and stand firm. We need to respect our flag and know just what she stands for, our precious freedom. Quit complaining and be thankful.

We need to be one again.

DIANE MILLIGAN, Douglasville

Jesus Christ on a Trailer Hitch!

[Diane R]

2. Run the same map with Howard Dean's (and I loved Howard) numbers from July 2003.

[kevinbgoode]

3. I was one of those Anderson votes. . .

now don't beat on me. . .

[frogcycle]

6. i was too

[Warpy]

8. Carter sold us out on choice

by refusing funding for the poorest women. There was every indication he'd roll over on the rest of us.

I voted Anderson, too. I will not vote for any kind of antichoicer, not then, not now, not ever.

It would be like crossing the aboltionist line in the 1850s.

[ronnykmarshall]

11. Me too.

[jackbourassa]

4. Ya...but that was ON ELECTION DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not SIX MONTHS BEFORE ANYONE EVEN CAST A BALLOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not before people even began paying attention.

I think you play very loose with the facts, for someone with so much information at their disposal.

[SaveElmer]

7. Exactly what FACT did I get wrong...

In fact, given Hillary is running against 7 other people rather than the 2 Reagan was, Hillary's lead is even more impressive...

[jackbourassa]

12. You are trying to compare two situations which are completely different...

A 12 point lead SIX MONTHS BEFORE AN ELECTION IS NOTHING. Why? Because, as i've shown in many, many different threads, numbers at this stage are very FLUID and WILL CHANGE once people begin to pay attention. If Obama gets six percent of Democrats to change from Hillary to himself (which is hardly impossible given Hillary's current support among African Americans, which are likely to flip once they see one of their own running), then this race is tied.

Results of an election, are results of an election...therefore the point I made above are moot.

[jackbourassa]

15. Case in point...

CNN/USA Today/Gallup:

8/25-26

Lieberman 23%
Gepthardt 13%
Dean 12%

CNN/TIME

7/16-23

Lieberman 23%
Gepthardt 12%
Dean 10%

Lieberman leading at this stage in the last cycle wasn't indicative of anything. He was still trounced during the primaries.

[rinsd]

21. Lieberman's numbers never achieved the height that Hillary is at...try again.

[SaveElmer]

18. Numbers in this race have been very stable...

With 12 being at the low end of Hillary's margin...

And I suggest you take a look at the polls right before the 1980 election....

In any case your objection is irrelevant to your unbelievably inane assertion that a 12 point lead in an 8 person race is small...

You should stop making it...you look foolish!!!

[wyldwolf]

27. polls remained steady throughout the 1980 campaign...

..fluctuating by a few points here and there.

[jackbourassa]

5. Ya...but that was ON ELECTION DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not SIX MONTHS BEFORE ANYONE EVEN CAST A BALLOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not before people even began paying attention.

I think you play very loose with the facts, for someone with so much information at their disposal.

[frogcycle]

10. but who cares

it is all noise at this point. people want to say "my candidate is the grandest tiger in the jungle" - so the hell what.

When they take as hominem potshots at the other dem candidates, that's when i get my knickers in a twist

[cureautismnow]

9. Shouldn't it be 9.7%?

50.7% - 41% = 9.7%. :shrug:

[SaveElmer]

13. You are right...how am I ever gonna pass the GRE?

[cureautismnow]

14. You round down and I'll round up.

Meet you at approximately 10%. :hi:

[racaulk]

16. McCain was also his party's frontrunner at one time.

A lot can happen in six months.

[Justyce]

17. Popular vote 51 to 41, electoral college 91 to 9.

The electoral college has outlived its usefulness and needs to go IMO....

[SOS]

20. HRC beats Thompson by 12?

Last poll I saw was 45% - 45%.

[rinsd]

24. New Zogby head to head just came out for the big 3

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3386086&mesg_id=3386086

[CreekDog]

26. Not Zogby...

sigh

[Forkboy]

23. Thanks?

[Perry Logan]

25. IQ's in the U.S. had been going down for 20 straight years. That's why Reagan got elected.

Now, of course, IQ's are going up. So the Right is doomed.