Rasmussen: Hillary's favorability rating continues to improve...Guiliani's to fall...

[SaveElmer]

Hillary

Favorable 52
Unfavorable 46

Guiliani

Favorable 53
Unfavorable 41

Guliani had favorability ratings approaching 70% in this poll only a few months ago...

Seems the more people see and hear Hillary the more they like her...just the opposite for Guiliani...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/clinton_44_giuliani_43

[still_one]

1. The question is thompson. Will people believe his character on television

or reality?

[thereismore]

2. People have already voted for a much more mediocre actor once. I have no hope. nt

[churchofreality]

4. The guy is a blank slate, people are projecting their hopes on him

But he will fall short. No one wants another unqualified lazy redneck.

[saltpoint]

16. Thompson looks halfway sentient in the pack of Republican hopefuls

but that ain't sayin' much. An aquarium slug looks pretty good next to Sam Brownback or Tom Tancredo.

Once Thompson is out on the stump, I think he'll experience a minimum of audience rapture and a maximum of logisitical and strategic screw-ups. There'll be persistent questions about his flip-flopping between a halfway moderate Republican and a I-want-power Conservative Republican.

He seems disinterested in his own ambition. Does this guy really want to be president? I seem him out on his patio with Jeri, a coolerful of cold beer between them, a bowl of chips and salsa on an aluminum table, and ol' Fred chompin' away. The Middle East? To hell with it -- I'm chilling out on the back porch.

This is a strange political climate. The Republicans don't really have a frontrunner. Romney and Giuliani are both losers. Especially Giuliani. I hope Rudy loved his high poll numbers a couple months ago, because I don't think they're ever again likely to be as high. And with good reason.

Sam Brownback will place a strong third or (possibly) a stunning second behind Romney in Iowa. That weakens the entire GOP field, since it reminds conservatives that Romney isn't conservative, and it reminds the rest of us that the Republicans are far-right kooks.

[churchofreality]

3. And it will keep going up

The more people see of her, the better they will like her. The unfavorability is based on the constant bashing by the right wing.

[MannyGoldstein]

5. They'll Like Her For Her Bold And Principled Stands!!!

For example, as Senator she's stuck her neck out by championing... uh... umh... someone help me out here...

Well, at least she was one of the first to confront the worst President ever by... uh.. umh... someone help me out here...

[SaveElmer]

6. Help yourself...

There are plenty of resources demonstrating Hillary's fast rise as one of the most influential, competent and effective members of the Senate...

There is a reason why she is so popular in New York, even among indies and Republicans...she is extraordinarily skillful at her job and she knows what it takes to make actual progress (rather than just talk about making progress)...

Something that would be refreshing in a President...

[Larkspur]

7. Competent in making bad judgements, like voting for IWR

and supporting outsourcing of good paying American jobs to India so she can get those millions from the Indian-American community.

[SaveElmer]

8. Howard Dean on outsourcing and India...

On outsourcing, there was a perception that the Democrats were against outsourcing and it was perceived as India-bashing in a sense. How do you feel about outsourcing?

We are not against outsourcing. But we are in favour of fair trade. Now India is not the problem.

The problem frankly is China. In India, you can join an independent trade union. You cannot do that in China.

In India there are environmental laws. Now, we prefer the environmental laws be more similar to the United States.

Trade is not the problem. The problem is fair trade. We need to have the same kinds of rules apply to protecting workers and protecting the environment in every country and not just in some and others. India is closer to the model than China is.

India is not the problem. The problem frankly is China

http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/sep/09inter1.htm

[Larkspur]

10. As I said before, I don't agree with everything Howard Dean says

I don't agree with his Israel/Palestinian view and on outsourcing.

India is the problem in my profession.

[wyldwolf]

11. you're essentially a one issue voter

Dean embodies everything else the left hates - except his position on the war (which was really just a position on the IWR.)

[Tellurian]

12. That says it in a nutshell! One issue voter, the IWR.. ridiculous!

with one leg to stand on...

[Larkspur]

20. Howard Dean was willing to give us in the hinterland a voice against the Estalishment

Dean was willing to work with us and he wanted to rebuild the Dem Party from the grassroots up. Hillary and the DLC want to exploit us for their personal gain even if that means killing the Dem Party. They don't care if the Dem Party dies. Under Bill Clinton's 2 terms in office, the Dem Party was dying because Bill decided to cut off part of the Dem base, specifically the blue collar workers, because he wanted Corporate cash. Bill and Hillary are proud corporate whores.

Corporatism is not a single issue. It has ties in everything from jobs to healthcare and to war.

[William769]

9. Thats our girl!

[saltpoint]

13. Re Giuliani. Imagine being possessed of a personality that repels

people correspondent to the amount of exposure they have to it.

I believe that's the case with Giuliani. He's losing to Senator Clinton in their home field there in New York State, and Bloomberg, who is unannounced, is very respectably close to Rudy's numbers there.

And there remains the difficulty Rudy will face when word gets around that his social issues stances are less than consistent with the hellfire screamers who have made themselves at home in the GOP base. He's not going to persuade a far right fundie in Iowa that he should be in the White House.

Senator Clinton has won two statewide elections in her home state to Rudy's none. The apparatus for victory is slipping away from the idea of America's Mayor. The war he was bellowing about through that patriotic bullhorn has turned to ashes before his eyes. He can't keep whipping a dead horse, and every hour that Bush insists that the surge deserves a chance, Giuliani's chances for the presidency fade by degree.

Wave bye-bye to the nice people, Rudy.

[SaveElmer]

14. Nice post...

Captures Rudy's problem perfectly!!!

:hi:

[saltpoint]

17. Hi to ya, SaveElmer.

thanks, and good wishes to you.

Hope things are well your way.

:hi: :dem:

[wyldwolf]

15. the reverse is also true for Hillary

People warm to her the more they're exposed to her.

[saltpoint]

18. In a one-to-one matchup in New York, polls say Senator Clinton would

trash Giuliani.

New York voters are an astute bunch. I think their views on Rudy Giuliani are right on.

If Rudy Giuliani is the strongest the GOP has in their pack of wannabes, I think any of our folks whomp any of theirs, no matter which of ours or theirs wins nomination.

McCain's campaign went virulently pro-surge, and the consequence is disastrous. Rudy's thuggish bellowing about the war is going to hand him the same fate. Way more than a winning margin of voters will not support a Republican who endorses George Bush's Iraq policy.

[ananda]

19. I'd rather have Hillary than any GOP.

nt