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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 08:49 AM Original message |
The far left: How vital to Clinton's campaign? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. it`s not vital at all |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. And so the question becomes... |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Exactly, this campaign is beyond prepared.... |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
2. This is why the "Left" should seriously think of a new party. |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. And yet when we do... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
33. "The Far Left" is what the Democratic Party used to be before the DLC touch. |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. Excuse me? MoveOn is "the far left?" |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. They are far left of where Clinton stands on most issues |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. "hard-core Republicans are pretty centrist from where Clinton stands on many issues." Such as? |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I think perhaps you dislike Clinton . . . |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. The term "left" has become practically meaningless. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. All non-corporatist Democratic activists are "far-left" in Hillary's, and her supporters', minds. nt |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
8. Not vital at all. |
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CTD (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
9. It is true that the Dem party treats true progressives similar to how the GOP treats fundies |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. "how is Hillary any better than an actual Republican" |
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CTD (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. The GOP has had the chance to attack reproductive rights and they haven't |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Oh yes they have!! |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. What's the difference? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. You mention several things there... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. I wouldn't bet on it - women's reproductive freedom. Especially when the Senate Majority Leader |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. NARAL gives both Reid and Clinton 100% based on their voting records. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. I do genuinely respect you Sparky but check your references? Harry Reid scores 29% by NARAL. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I linked to NARAL's website. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. IMO, It's disingenuous to the max., in that, it does not tell the FULL story. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. but I bet you know the FULL story, huh? |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. When it comes to: |
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ToeBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
60. Worse actually, at least the Republicans throw the fundies a bone once in a while. nt |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:17 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. And they do take the trouble to hide their contempt for their base |
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fed-up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
16. I will only vote for a candidate that voted NO on the IWR-and will BRING Troops Home NOW nt |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
17. How about these questions: How big is the liberal left compared to the rest of the Democratic Party? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
18. Let me give you a restaurant analogy |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Let me give another restaurant analogy... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Yet it's one of the top favorites at the restaurant. So what do you do about it? nt |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Shake my head in amazement at the collective stupidity...and go look for somewhere GOOD to eat.. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Staying with the analogy, you've got the competing restaurant across the street... |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. But why should I be forced to eat shit? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. no one is forcing you to eat anything. You have your options |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Not if the only restaurant in town is Hillary's Diner... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. there's another big one across the street. And several small ones, like the little Green one |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
64. So is McDonald's, doesn't make it good. n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Yet, more Dems like it than what the alternatives are dishing. Go figure! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
38. And HRC's going to use the DLC and a newly forming *think tank* to keep us war-mongering |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
26. In the primaries? Not very vital at all IMHO |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
30. which "far left " is the article referring to? |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. "Far Left" = anyone that disagrees with HRC/DLC |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. that's nonsense |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
34. I hope not |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Yes, all us old women who belong to anti-war peace organizations like Pax Christi. |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. where did that come from |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. But I am, according to a centrist, present day definition "Far Left" |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #43 |
61. Well done, ShortnFiery! n/t |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. You go, ShortnFiery! Damn right and well said! |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. Watch out... next thing you know, some a**hole will come along, and tell you |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. at what point do we purge the extreme left |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
57. No offense but |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
37. but, the polls are not a real measure of support right now. Only a trend spotter. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. LOL.....now polls don't matter. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
49. Last night OReilly , I am sure thought he had a far-lefty for sure-- |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
51. The "far left" is a bogus O'Reilly term in the Faux Snooze lexicon |
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assclown_bush (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
53. Hillary will not win the radical fringe groups to her cause... |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Ending the War and Single Payer Health Care would appease me plenty |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
59. The far left? You mean like Maoists? |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. "Far left" is relative |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:00 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. If she was to sincerely embrace even one of those issues . . . |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #59 |
66. I'm not sure what" left" or "far left" really mean these days |
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