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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:06 PM Original message |
Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve Support From Progressives |
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yes2truth (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Nothing in that article should OFFEND any Democratic voter |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. I found the 2 July article about HRC in the Nation very interesting. It's better than this. nt |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. self delete |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. How would Obama be different than what this author complains about? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. What Obama did yesterday with the two speeches was what HillaryHaters call 'triangulation'... |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I know, I know. Its only a sin if a Clinton commits it. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Bingo! |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Exactly nt |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. Why hasn't any BO supporters answered this simple question? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. ADA lists her voting record as more progressive than Edwards' nt |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. Ah, just what ever wing nut wants to hear... |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. "Just food for thought... " Here -- eat this instead... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm a Clarkie, but this crap is getting tiring. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Ditto that, Mookie -- tiring for sure. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Sorry if you consider this to be a hit piece. Actually, the author presents a cogent and reasonable |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. It's fine as an editorial, and yes I read it. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Your points are well taken. Also, the author fails to fairly consider the political climate |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. That whole reply is ironic... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. It all depends on *how* "the question" are asked, i guess. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Or who the questions are directed at |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Perhaps... One man's "thoughtful critique" is another's "disgraceful hit piece." |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
46. Mookie.. you can't gey tired of DU in-fighting (or in-fussing) yet... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
10. Sorry...but Obama and CLinton... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. And who is saying that Obama is so great for progressives either? |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. SaveElmer, did you see the thread comparing their platforms? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. Amazingly similar. Progressive punch has them separated by only .5 of a point overall. |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
15. With all their faults, any current Democratic POTUS candidate |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
18. When someone posts a similar article about Obama it is called a vicious smear |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
19. If HRC does not deserve progessive support by extension neither does BO |
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StudentsMustUniteNow (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. Neither does Obama n/t |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
30. this article is stupid |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. That you find it stupid is ok but he only uses Kos to show how it's early in the campaign season |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. But Kos's recent article was weak. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
32. The Clintons hate the progressives. they want us to be repuke lite. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Repuke-lite? So why does Obama have the same platform as HRC? |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. It's like talking to a brick wall. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Oh my. You do realize who you were responding to, don't you? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Because IL adds SO much to the debate |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. HIP! HIP! HIP! |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Thanks |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. and your point? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Gotcha. Hit and runners do suck. We can agree on that. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I'll take swing of that! |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. His point was to smear a fellow DU'er--what he claims to be against nt |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. And this isn't a "smear"? How about your "smears" about HRC? |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. AT least she does not post the SHIT hillary supporters post. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. And shower off the slime afterwards... |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Yeah she's only stuck with the "young and hip" crap. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. It is only "slime", "crap" or a "smear" if it is directed at the Great Leader |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Wow! Didn't see THAT bullshit comment coming. |
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