Well Old Joe just kicked off the war plan for Iran on "Face the Nation".

[CK_John]

Calling for air stiles against Iran. Mission complete Sen Joe.

[dsc]

1. wrong show it is face the nation

[CK_John]

3. Thanks changed title.

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[CK_John]

4. Maybe, but the campaign for 08 just shifted 360 degrees, which

candidate will be most affected.

[alfredo]

5. Joe was lying about the source of the bombers in Iraq. Why would

a Sunni (al Qaeda) be doing the bidding of a Shiite Government? Joe and others from the right ignore the fighters, money, and weapons from Saudi Arabia. He said 90% come from Iran. Bullshit.

[CK_John]

6. You go to war with the meme you got, not with the facts you want.

[alfredo]

9. Now that is a quotable quote.

[slipslidingaway]

7. A Neo-Conservative International Targets Iran "Joe Lieberman

...keynoted the opening session. In other words, the conference constituted a kind of “Neo-Conservative International” designed to rally support for “dissidents,” primarily from the Islamic world, and give them hope that “regime change” in their countries is possible much as it was in the former Soviet bloc almost 20 years ago...

In addition to Bush himself, other U.S. government officials who participated in the conference included Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs Karen Hughes; the new president of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty and AEI alumnus, Jeffrey Gedmin; Harold Rhode, a Pentagon official and close associate of AEI’s Michael Ledeen who was involved in back-channel talks with Manucher Ghorbanifar about encouraging “regime change” in Iran in 2003; and Joe Wood, identified in the participants’ list as the deputy assistant to the Vice President for National Security Affairs in the Office of the Vice President at the White House...

Other participating dissidents may not have suffered for their beliefs quite as much. Besides Sazegara, who was profiled by Laura Rozen and Jeet Heer in The American Prospect two years ago, the two Iranian representatives were Reza Pahlavi, the Shah’s son and heir, and Amir Abbas Fakhravar, a Perle favourite whose bona fides was questioned in an important article, also by Laura, in Mother Jones last year. On the Syrian front, Homsy was joined by Farid Ghadry, the Washington-based businessman who emigrated from Syria with his family to Lebanon at the age of eight. Long promoted by neo-conservatives, Ghadry is the founder-president of the Reform Party of Syria, and a member of both CPD and the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).


http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe/?p=27

[Tom Rinaldo]

8. This is a threat that virtually none of our National Democratic Leaders

with the exception of Wes Clark and Dennis Kucinich, are taking seriously enough. Clark went so far as to cosponsor a dedicated web site called StopIranWar.com, and he's been out there on a public limb over this issue for years; arguing for high level, unconditional direct negotiations between the U.S. and Iran as well as a comprehensive diplomatic initiative that acknowledges the interplay of issues effecting nations in the middle east and each one's legitimate national interests.

Too many Democratic activists take for granted that the same "anti-Iraq" War consensus that has been developing among our Party's national representatives carries over regarding Iran. A provision to require coming to Congress before Attacking Iran was stripped out of the original legislation aimed at fixing a timeline for withdrawal from Iraq BY THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS. National Democrats continue to talk tough about Iran now in the same manner that they did about Iraq in 2002. Lieberman is far closer to the mainstream on this than many are willing to recognize. Hard rhetoric against Iran is considered mandatory by many Democrats, and that is the type of rhetoric that paves the way for military action. It has always been that way.

[CK_John]

10. Yes, it is very frustrating, I've tried to post that the campaign will be about Iran not Iraq.

But it like spitting in the wind, it just comes back at your face.

Nobody seems to get that the switch has been flipped on Iraq. Rove has decided that Iraq is "so yesterday" and a losing issue. They move on and we follow like puppies.

Hopefully our candidates have a plan for this.