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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:27 PM
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Do you think Dems are caving in because of Memorial Day?
Afterall - it's time for vacation. They want to get out of there on Friday.

Who has time to fight for the troops?

Why else would they give up so easily, after the strong fight they gave last week ??:mad:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:29 PM
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1. I don't know but I'm voting for all these gutless wonders' future Primary Opponents. n/t
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:32 PM
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2. We need Gore.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:37 PM
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3. "Why else would they give up so easily"?
Because they are chickenshit Democrats who have been down so long that they have lost their collective nerve.

And the WH has the goods on everyone.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:39 PM
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4. I just have this sick feeling that they would stand up and fight if there was more time.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:48 PM
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7. More time? What do you mean?
They have all the time in the world. They are in charge on both houses of Congress, for God's sake. They don't HAVE to recess for a vacation. Have they ever not taken a vacation while you and I often have had to cancel or postpone ours? Their vacation is more important than 'the troops'?? Evidently yes!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:50 PM
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8. What I meant is that * wanted this bill before they left on Memorial Day break
They fought so hard last week, now they are handing * what he wants and getting it to him before Memorial Day break. I don't know what else to think.
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:50 PM
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9. "They are in charge on both houses of Congress"
Yeah for six months and with razor thin margins, not too much you can work with there. Thats why there saving there strgenth for september.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:02 PM
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16. But
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid still control when the House and Senate recess for a vacation. They could have refused to do that and kept working on the funding bill rather than cave so they could all go home. Who gives a $hit what * wants. There is no excuse for what happened yesterday.

Wait till September and they'll be 'saving their strength' for December, unless this has been a wake-up call that they all might get voted out.
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:06 PM
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17. I don't think there is a funding bill to debate in December
So there strength will be saved for September, that's when the real fight will begin, mark my words
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:55 PM
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10. I have an even sicker feeling.
I know of few people who don't have something in their or their family's past that they wouldn't do just about anything to conceal.

And I believ the Rove machine has such serious stuff on the Congressional leadership that they can periodically play the trump card.
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:02 PM
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12. Hey it wouldn't be the first time the Government blackmails there politicans
Do we not remember J. Edgar Hoover the former director of the FBI?, he did as well so if Rove is trying to blackmail Democrats it wouldn't surprise me.
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:47 PM
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5. One could say they're caving in spite of Memorial Day...who is pushing the removal of timeframes?
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:48 PM
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6. LIEberman?
I bet all the money I have it's LIEberman
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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:19 PM
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14. I think Lieberman threatened to switch. Maybe we should focus on how this happened
instead of just blaming dems for "caving."
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:40 PM
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15. I totally agree
Because sadly at this point if I were the Democrats I would kiss Joe's ass if it meant keeping the majority because if he does switch over this you can kiss getting out of Iraq by 2008 goodbye completely because with the Repukes calling the shots in the Senate any type of withdrawal would be out of the question and it would be replaced by legislation that will outlaw gay marriage and flag burning not to mention bills that benefit credit card companies.

That's why it's vital to get out of Iraq and to weaken Holy Joe's sphere of influence on Senate Democrats it's VITAL to elect more Democrats in 2008. How I see it the Democrats will gain Colorado but lose Louisiana and at best we can gain three seats: Minnesota, New Hampshire and Oregon.
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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:16 PM
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20. I guess they did just that to keep the majority.
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:17 PM
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21. They had to, it's vital.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:57 PM
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11. That was pretty good :) Memorial Day is * timeline
:toast:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:03 PM
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13. The Republicans would have a "hayday" --
Can you not hear them. Democrats cut the troops funding
on Memorial Day....

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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:09 PM
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19. Why can't the Dems
ever learn they need a forceful intelligent spokesman who can give as good as we get. 20% of the people support Bush and his war and we can't come up with a way to throw his words back at him. It's not like the people love him and believe a word he say. Maybe the reason our fearless leaders don't do this is because they are just plain chicken and don't deserve our votes.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:08 PM
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18. I think they caved because they are owned by the war profiteers
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justinrr1 Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:22 PM
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22. I think they caved
because they dont have the votes. If they dont send any funding Bush would leave the troops there with or without proper funding until the funding did come and the public would turn against the dems and towards Bush. We would then get a republican congress and president in 08 and have no chance of ending this war until the repukes say so.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:42 PM
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24. They only need 213 votes
in the House and 50 votes in the Senate to keep passing "supplementals" that the asshole in the WH will veto and veto and veto...

And that insane asshole gets no more of my GRANDCHILD'S MONEY!!!!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:39 PM
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23. I think they're caving in
Edited on Wed May-23-07 08:45 PM by ProudDad
'cause they're cowards...

They're such chicken-shit little ciphers. Most of them don't know what it's like to have power (it's been 12 years in the House), they're getting their power high and are scared shitless of losing it.

Very few of them are "states-people", few are articulate, and few have well developed sets of ethics.

Dog, it would be soooooo freakin' EASY to beat back the pukes. The worm has turned and the Dems are too scared to notice.
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