No matter how it looks, Bush and Rove are winning everything 110%!

[Kablooie]

Bush's approval rating is in the toilet.
And how does that affect things? NOT AT ALL!

Bush had the AG in his pocket and illegal acts are out in the open.
How does that affect things? NOT AT ALL!

Crime after crime is exposed and the public is turning against the administration.
How does that affect things? NOT AT ALL!!

Face it. ALL THE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAVE BEEN DESTROYED!

It doesn't matter HOW bad things look for Bush, there is NOTHING CONGRESS OR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN DO!

NOTHING!

Every single legal recourse is now controlled by Bush.
Rove has done his job extremely well. The tide is turning just as he expected but he's cut of every escape route.

Sorry folks. I've seen how ineffective the Congress is no matter what is exposed and I believe there is no way out.

Someone please prove me wrong but so far every single incident simply confirms this hypothesis.
Bush, Rove and Cheney are winning and no one can box them in.

Hell, even slimey Wolfowitz simply says, "I'm not going. These aren't the droids you're looking for." and everyone replies, "Oh. Ok. I guess you're not going."


The world of 1984 is just getting started a little late. Just stay away from room 101 if you can.

[aquart]

1. You're wrong.

[Kablooie]

4. I hope I am.

[enough]

6. Tell us more.

[calimary]

24. How 'bout this?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_the_web_070511_bush_approval_map_3a_n.htm

Perhaps that will perk you up a bit. Ze pendulum, she does swing.

Might be fun to refer to this, or quote some of it, the next time you call some republi-CON on Capitol Hill on Monday morning (TOLL FREE switchboard numbers for your convenience in my sig line, below).

:evilgrin:

[calimary]

25. Or this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3259890

[lligrd]

2. It Sure Seems That Way

but I am still hoping.

[Erika]

3. Just remember those who rubber stamped Bush

and vote them out!

[robinlynne]

13. That would be a great plan if we had elections.

[Loge23]

5. 2008=failure

If this administration is allowed to run out the clock, then I would conclude that we have indeed lost the country.

[Exultant Democracy]

7. I'm still up in the air, I know it would make me feel better,

but would it be the best thing overall in the end? Impeachment is the H-bomb and I'm not sure we know what is going to get caught in the blast radius.

[paparush]

12. That's Assuming the Dems win the White House in '08.

2000 and 2004 proved that the neocon machine can and WILL steal presidential elections.

Why in Reagan's name would they stop?

[BlameCanada12]

8. 100% correct. These 'scandals' are all smoke and mirrors.

Hey, look over here! These are distractions to keep the public occupied while the corporate gods rape your treasury. It's that simple.

Follow the money.

Who pays for this war? Who GETS paid for this war?
Who pays for the fuel for this war? Who GETS paid for the fuel for this war?
Who is selling the military the supplies they need to run this war?
Who is manufacturing the weaponry, tanks, jets, etc?

Answer these questions and see where it leads you...

The elites profiting from this war care only about consumption. The more death, destruction, carnage, etc., the more resources are consumed. It's that simple. War is the greatest, most profitable enterprise of all. This is a business. Bush and this administration are nothing but tools, useful tools, for authorizing and snatching the money away form the American people. It really can't be put any simpler than that.

Remember, even Nixon got pardoned. Look at the criminal acts that have already taken place by this administration. With all these blatant criminal acts on record - YOU STILL HAVE DEMOCRATS WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN IMPEACHING THESE CRIMINALS!!! And some of you believe that justice will ultimately prevail? Give your head a shake. The mission of raping and stealing the $$TRILLIONS$$ of dollars needed for this criminal enterprise has been accomplished. They're just biding their time now.

[Canuckistanian]

9. Hi, BlameCanada12, welcome to DU

Good rant.

:toast:
:hi:

[ShortnFiery]

10. Yes, this final year and one half of SURGE, is just a final *wet kiss* to overt raping

of our tax dollars. The Military Industrial Machine has become so powerful that it doesn't matter what the American People think because ALL the politicians will be either bought off, intimidated, black mailed or suicided if they stand in the way of perpetuating endless wars. :grr:

We have already arrived at The Fascist States of American. The only decision we must make is do we wish an OVERT love of authority or a COVERT ... gentler eradication of The Middle Class. But make no mistake, THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX AND MULTI-NATIONAL CORPORATIONS RULE! :grr:

[calimary]

26. Welcome to DU! What would you have us do - go over there in that

dark little corner and cry? Just give it up and cash out?

Look, you're correct about how daunting it is. We're faced with incredibly powerful, wealthy adversaries. Yeah, we seem awfully little compared to them. So was David up against Goliath.

I tend to envision this big-ass battleship, or maybe starship since I just got through watching some episodes of "Enterprise." The huge, ferocious ship lumbers on, its image of invincibility most daunting. But then all these annoying little "gnats" are suddenly swarming around it. They're little, alright. Light, fast-moving, highly maneuverable. They don't have the fire power. They don't have a lot of the technology, but they can react quickly and turn on a dime. The big one, on the other hand, takes hours to turn even halfway. It's like the reference Howard Fineman made the other evening on Olbermann's show, regarding the so-called "gang of 11" (the nervous-nellie republi-CON reps who went to the White House evidently with very tight sphincters looking ahead to the adverse impact bush's war was going to have on the party in general and their reelection prospects in particular. And now there was word that bush was purportedly no longer ruling out "benchmarks" and other previously taboo concepts. Fineman said it was a signal that the big aircraft carrier (the White House) was slowly starting to turn, but that it would indeed be slowly. And if the White House is that big ship, we're the little gnats getting in the way, stinging, flying into its eyes and ears, making it stop to sneeze and scratch and blink and twitch...

I'm sure the colonists back a few centuries ago felt pretty daunted by those ferocious, invincible Redcoats, too.

I'm sure the French Underground thought it looked pretty hopeless against the Nazis sometimes.

I'm sure the Clintons felt surrounded, too, and they were up against a lot of the same stuff we are. But they survived, and are thriving, especially Bill - the Dark Side's Target One.

NO enpire lasts. And no empire seems to get this: that when you grow large enough, your flanks become harder and harder to defend. At some point, every empire throughout history has found that the easy part is getting there. The hard part is keeping control of it all. The bigger they are, the more possibilities there are for vulnerabilities. The more turf they have to defend, the thinner they'll have to spread themselves and their resources. Feels like shit now, but it won't last. History proves this.

History has already proven it to the Romans, the Greeks, the Egyptians, the Soviets, Charlemagne, Alexander the Great, Napoleon, Hitler, the Aztecs, the Mayans, the Invincible Armada, the British Empire (you know, the one on which the sun never sets?), the Vikings, the Huns, Genghis Khan, Constantine the Great, Hirohito, Pol Pot, Mao, and by the way, EVERY marauding band, tribe, and roving army that EVER stomped into the Mesopotamia (that place some people now refer to as Iraq). Even the dinosaurs, as huge and fearsome and seemingly untouchable as they were, fell.

And these people now aren't immune, either. It'll take a long time. Longer than we'd like. Maybe into the next presidency. But they won't last forever. Nazi hunters are still nailing people, and that regime ended, along with its power and influence, more than half a century ago. WE just need to hang in there.

Read the Howard Dean thread that's linked farther up (post 25). I did, and it renewed my faith.

on edit - here's the link again so you don't have to go searching (besides, I wanted to keep it in my journal so it wouldn't be that hard for ME to find, either!):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3259890

[calimary]

27. Just one more thing... the one overriding reason why I will refuse to

give up fighting against these people is that giving up is EXACTLY what they'd just LOVE for me to do. Giving up, shutting up, backing down, going away, not making a fuss, slinking off back into the wilderness to mind my own business and quit making trouble. That's what they want. So that's precisely what I WON'T be doing.

Remember what the character Mad-Eye Moody always advised Harry Potter and the other "Defense Against the Dark Arts" students in the later Harry Potter books - "CONSTANT VIGILANCE!!!" Eerily applicable and supremely relevant here, as well.

[MrSlayer]

11. It's hard to disagree.

This administration has committed crimes that are nothing less than treasonous and the proof is all right out in the open yet nothing is done. Raping and pillaging has always been the hallmark of those who really run the show but it's never been this blatant. Congress is posturing, trying to run out the clock, until a new administration gets in that isn't quite as obvious about the real function of government and politics.

[Sapere aude]

14. This will pass, if the American people want it to.

We have the power to take our country back. Not congress and Bush and Rove can't do a thing about it. That was proven in the 2006 election. In 2008 this can all change if enough of us want it to.

[Kablooie]

15. No. It will only pass if the NeoCons want it to.

The 2006 election wasn't a presidential election. And even though Democrats won, they apparently have no power other than to make noise. Nothing substantial has come from the election at all and looks like nothing ever will. Rove and the NeoCons have taken control of every legal remedy.

And in 2008 the election manipulation machinery will be running at full force. I don't believe the American People have enough legal clout left to counteract this.

The American People only serve at the pleasure of the NeoCons.

[Sapere aude]

17. Well, I just don't buy your doom and gloom vision of things. I have more belief in the American

people than that.

I use to think that voters were smart enough not to ever let one party control the government and I was disappointed when it happened in 2000. 2006 reaffirmed my belief in the people. The neocons cannot steal an election unless it is very close. I don't think 2008 will be close. The country has learned a lesson for the near term. I think there will be Dem controlled government in 2009 and my hope is that we don't fuck up like the repukes did.

Also, I am really amazed and the lack of hope people have here and the resignation they show to the futility of things.

[Bitwit1234]

16. I feel the frustration also.

All these investigations, all these committee hearings and the corruption goes on...not one of the bush henchmen starting with rove and gonzales have been held accountable for anything. GET THEM OUT OF OFFICE. ROVE SHOULD BE FIRED AND GONZALES NEXT. Then clean out the Department of Justice. There is nothing wrong with republican attorneys if they put this country first and the party second.

[jmondine]

18. I understand your frustration

If I may ask, is your intention to vent that frustration, to let it out and give voice to that which gnaws away at each of us? If so, then it was well said. Or is there some change of perspective, some new course of action you hope to inspire by this? If so, please elaborate on what you think that is.

The ultimate reality is that no matter how much money, standing, or influence a person or group has, they are still just people. We are all just a bunch of bald apes running around doing stuff. The key to suppressing a populace is to convince them of their own powerlessness. Bush, Rove, and their ilk count on the despair and resignation of their opponents, as do their corporate masters in the military industrial complex.

One of the mistakes I think we on the left make is assuming that mainstream folk have no clue how rigged, how corrupt and stacked against them the system is. I believe that they do, at least on a deep, subconscious, gut level. Most of their lives of quiet non-involvement are defenses against facing this reality. When we attempt to wake them up, to show them how bad things are, they dismiss us as lefty extremists and run away, their hands on their ears going, "la la la".

What we need to do is not stop at "things are bad", but continue on to what we are going to do about it. The solutions need to be effective, practical, and inspiring. More than awareness of the system, we need to combat the illusion of powerlessness which allows that system to continue unabated.

Gandhi said that whenever he despaired, he remembered that there have been empires in the past, and for a while they seem invincible, but in the end they always fall.

[Kablooie]

19. I am basically venting frustration in the hope that ...

... it helps goad someone to prevent my dire predictions from coming true.

A stupid and futile action on my part, I know, but I still hope.

[cassiepriam]

20. Yes you are correct.

[Perry Logan]

21. Take a break

When you start talking about Republicans as if they were geniuses, it's time to take a break. Drink a cup of valerian tea and stay away from the media for a while.

[newyawker99]

22. Hi Perry Logan!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[calimary]

29. Hey! That's some good-sounding advice there, Perry Logan! Welcome to DU!

Glad to have you here! Now get to work.

[LittleClarkie]

23. Bah.

Just wait until 2008 and see how all of that is or is not affecting things. It ain't gonna be pretty for the Republicans, that's for sure.

Meanwhile, if Bush, who doesn't give a shit about his party because HE'S not running anymore, made the presidency too powerful, then it will be too powerful for the next Democratic president as well. Watch the Republicans in Congress grind their teeth then.

[MasonJar]

28. The problem is that we do not have enough votes to override the

"Moran" in chief's veto. However, the voices must continue to rise against this bunch of Atilla the Huns. (Apologizes to Atilla) We must win big in 08 to save the world and the country, so even if we cannot get rid of Bush, we MUST continue the debate against him loud and clear.

[CK_John]

30. We have a major problem thinking "shame" is a weapon against this mob. n/t

[alcibiades_mystery]

31. Dumbest post of the month

I swear, some people aren't happy if they are not losing and victimized by some super-human force.

You are a fool, and a very public one.

[donsu]

32. agree - I keep saying that we haven't stopped them from doing anything

they do have everything tied up.

we have to step out of the box and take radical action against them.

or live with their shit.