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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:01 PM
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You know, give these guys and gals who stopped this attack on
Ft. Dix some credit...

It sound legit, the police work was great, they caught some bad guys...

I hate that this president and his cronies have made us all so cynical...

I'm glad they got these guys...

I think they would have gotten slaughtered faster than you can say will that be pick up or delivery...

But they were really, in my humble opinion, going to try and go through with it...

It's good police work...

What we should take away from this little exercise is that the whole thing was done they way it should have been done...

No sniffing around in peoples E-Mails or listening to phone calls or finding out what they were reading...

They got a tip...

They investigated...

Infiltrated...

And arrested...

Sounds like a good day for law enforcement to me...
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:11 PM
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1. Exactly. Fighting 'terror' IS a law enforcement function!!!
Kerry was pilloried by Darth Cheney about the phrase 'law enforcement.'

The TRUTH is ONLY law enforcement activities will STOP terrorists It is beyond impossible to 'declare WAR' on Terror!!!


:grr:
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:50 PM
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6. How can you say that?
Look at the success America had on the War on Drugs and the War on Poverty.
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Grillydad Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:13 PM
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2. Notice that law enforcement not the military stopped the attack
Every time someone suggests a plan like information, infiltration and arrest, it's denigrated as "pre-9/11 thinking." But all the plots of which we have knowledge are stopped not by armies, but by law enforcement. Think Englnd and Scotland Yard. Where is terrorism really being effectly fought?
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:14 PM
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3. You're right
They did a good job of stopping this, but let me ask you how was it that three of the suspects were able to enter the country illegally? Where was law enforcement then?

Two had green cards, and one was a US citizen!

One of the six had a job that enabled him to get on to the base to deliver pizzas, now how did he get cleared to enter a military base?

I would put this into the tied column, because it's not really a win, and it's not really a loss.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:18 PM
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5. That's very true....
But the FBI and local police are not the ones who handle illegal aliens...

That is what other departements of the federal government should be doing...
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:15 PM
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4. It does
:toast:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:56 PM
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7. Investigated, infiltrated and arrested...
Guess that's why they haven't had any time to look into THIS crime...

Air controllers call for criminal investigation Eyewitness News Exclusive

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=local&id=5271014

Air controllers call for criminal investigationEyewitness News Exclusive

New York - WABC, May 3, 2007) - The air traffic controllers who were exposed to that carbon monoxide now want a criminal investigation into why they weren't allowed to leave their control center, even though they were dizzy and disoriented -- and trying to direct hundreds of planes.

SNIP:

Air Controller's interviews from Wednesday:


"It was like a fog," said controller Ray Maldonado.

"Sometimes it felt like I couldn't clearly put together something that I normally would have at any other time. You know what I mean?" air controller John Conklin said.

"I remember just being extremely fatigued ... very tired, very sleepy. It took a lot to stay awake that night," Maldonado said.

"Headaches, nausea, dizziness, disorientation, fatigue, inability to focus, not able to concentrate. We had these employees who were in no condition to do this job being directed to continue with this job," said Iacopelli.

"They said, 'no, we're not calling the fire department,'" Conklin said.

"The employees there said, 'Well, we'll call the local fire department and have them come in to test the air. And the operations manager in charge informed them that, 'If you make the call, I will not let them in the gate and I will refuse them entry into the control room,'" Iacopelli said.



If you get a chance, WATCH THE VIDEOS! They are at the ABC link provided.

Sounds like DOMESTIC terrorism to me. In New Jersey, of ALL places!!! Hmmmm...
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:03 PM
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8. K&R. I saw this happen in Britain, with police work.
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