The Guest Who Stayed Past Election ...: Someone needs to tell Ralph Nader it's time to go home

[LoZoccolo]

There is always one guy at every party who outstays his welcome. Long after the bar closes, he is still pouring drink after drink from the untended bottle. He stalks the other guests as they try to leave, assaulting them with his wisdom. It is as though having failed to be the life of the party, he finds solace in being the life after the party. Or maybe he just has nowhere else to go. His exhausted hosts try hinting without success, until finally he must be told straight out: "Friend, the party is over, it is time to go home."

http://www.poppolitics.com/articles/2000/11/The_Guest_Who_Stayed_Past_Election

[marylanddem]

1. he needs to LOUDLY apologize for screwing up Gore and delivering the election to Bush.

Fuck him.

[elocs]

2. Let me 2nd and heartily AMEN that notion! n/t

[IChing]

3. shouldn't you have posted this in the history forum? 7 years ago?

Nader is worth listening not voting for.........
He is right on the rampant corporatism, I would love to have him
head the EPA in our new democratic administration.

[LoZoccolo]

10. Firstly, I realize it's old, but it showed up on Google News today.

I still thought it's relevant because there will likely be some other attempted spoiler candidate if not him.

Secondly, any of a number of other environmental and consumer advocates could make the same cases he does.

[bluestateguy]

4. Every state with a Democratic Secretary of State take notice

They should use Katherine Harris/Kenneth Blackwell type of tactics to keep that little shit off of their states' ballots in 2008.

This is the future of the nation we are talking about here.

[still_one]

7. No, I disagree. If people are stupid enough to vote for him, and he turns an election

then they will get what they deserve

No difference Mr. Nader, BULL

You are right the future of the nation IS AT STAKE, and I actually believe that people NOW realize it

I predict that the Democrats will NOT only take back ALL three branches of government in 2008, BUT IN A HUGE WAY

[LiberalFighter]

14. Just pelt the guy with eggs

[Oglethorpe]

24. So....

So in order to ensure the future of the nation, we should take illegal actions to keep him off of the ballot? Kind of like razing the village to save it, wouldn't you say?

[Le Taz Hot]

25. Simply amazing,

isn't it? :crazy:

[AtomicKitten]

5. Fully understanding this topic is almost always flammable,

and in deference to those that are okay with Ralph - I have some genuine mixed feelings about him myself - right now when I see him or hear his voice, I think - or within about 10 seconds end up thinking: please stop talking and go away.

Sorry if that offends anyone.

[AtomicKitten]

6. self-delete

puter spaz

[Forkboy]

8. Slow night?

There must be something better to do than read articles from 2000 about Nader.That can't be healthy.You should watch Children of Men or something.I just watched it and I give it 3 Forks.

[LoZoccolo]

9. How much would you like to wager that he will not run in 2008?

$100?

[Forkboy]

13. LOL

[1932]

17. ...and he'll have even less impact than he had in '04.

[AtomicKitten]

11. come on - this is the way to start a conversation at DU

Sometimes people would like to talk about stuff that IS current - Ralph is coming to life - I hear his voice on CSPAN, on the radio - HE LIVES! - and people want to resurrect OLD Ralph issues, something about an election around 1999 or 2000 or so when something bad happened and then a whole lot of other really bad stuff kept happening, for a long time now ...

but I digress.

Ralph is current. Ralph is quacking. I'd like to talk about OUR elephant in the Blue Room as he exists in my world.

[ulysses]

27. ok, so let's have a conversation.

Still a slow night and I'm trying to avoid doing some organizing that I desperately need to do, so let's have at.

[L. Coyote]

12. This BOZO handed the Bush Cheney Regime the keys to the kingdom.

History should never forget what this man did to America.

[PresidentObama]

15. Nader is an example of why we can't vote third party in 08'

He cost Gore the White House in 2000, along with Bush cheating, and now look what we have. If Ralph does it again in 2008, we'll have four to eight more years of Republican rule. I don't know about you Ralph, but I prefer President Obama or President Edwards over President Giuliani or President Romney! Yuck. I feel dirty after putting the word "President" before Romney and Giuliani's name, time for a shower!

[1932]

16. shifting blame off Republicans and on to Nader for vote fraud in FL has got to be one of Republicans

most effective moves after 2000.

[LoZoccolo]

18. I wouldn't think so.

I've never even heard that argument before.

[1932]

20. I'll try this again.

It's my fault that it wasn't clear.

Shifting the blame for Gore's loss in FL off Republican vote fraud and on to Nader is one of the Republicans' most successful strategies for keeping themselves from looking like total crooks.

[LoZoccolo]

21. I wouldn't think so.

I know about the vote fraud too. You're talking about that thing from The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, right?

[wyldwolf]

19. kicked and recommended for two reasons

1. Good article
2. Someone on this board believed "recommends" are a measurement of a post's accuracy and I sure don't want to disappoint!

[The Count]

22. He was already way irrelevant in 2004 - yet MSM polled for him as if he was a 3rd

choice. There were other independs challenging W for a change - and unlike Nader the Cadaver, they were registered in all states- yet MSM chose to harp on Ralph.

[ulysses]

23. "it is time to go home", but the unity enforcement squad keeps dragging him back through the door.

:shrug: The man has more staying power than any "irrelevant" figure in history.

[Name removed]

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[Rwalsh]

28. The SCOTUS put Bush in the White House but...

Nader is indirectly responsible for that. His presence made the race close enough for the SCOTUS (and the lower courts) to get involved.

Take out Nader and the election would never have gone to the courts. Why? Because Gore's margin of victory would have been big enough to make what happened in Florida irrelevant.