I don't see any spin here. Anyone?

[babylonsister]

Scratch AP as any kind of legitimate source...:eyes:


http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0411FiredPolitics0411.html

Uproar on ousters giving Dems weapon vs. Bush

Julie Hirschfeld Davis
Associated Press
Apr. 11, 2007 12:00 AM

WASHINGTON - The escalating uproar over President Bush's ouster of eight U.S. attorneys has handed Democrats a weapon they have long sought, evidence that his administration improperly allowed politics to trump the law.

There are a couple of problems: The evidence is largely circumstantial, and the proof is missing.

Behind the furor is the simple but as-yet-unanswered question of whether the prosecutors - including one ousted after declining to investigate a disputed Democratic electoral victory, a pair pushed out after pursuing investigations of Republican congressmen, and another gone after he was criticized for not indicting Democrats - were targeted for failing to use their posts to benefit the GOP. Democrats allege that is exactly what happened.

The White House and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, whose battle to keep his job amid the furor over the resignations now depends partly on his ability to explain them, has said politics played no role.

Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, the No. 3 Republican, told ABC on Sunday that Gonzales, who is to testify before the Senate next week, essentially will have to try to prove a negative: that the ousters weren't based on political corruption cases.

Lawmakers and the public may never know who is right.

more...

[sallyseven]

1. AP never gets the story right.

They fudge and spin and make fools of them selves. Unfortunatly they have a captured market. Most newpapers put the misinformation out to their readers. bush cabal write the stories.

[Sparkly]

2. AP is inconsistent

Some of their writers are pretty consistently biased; others just give the facts.

[AuntPatsy]

3. I have already heard faux talking points concerning this issue.

[gratuitous]

4. Circumstantial evidence is still evidence, Ms. Davis

Hard to believe that someone purporting to write about an investigation wouldn't know that. And the reason that more concrete evidence hasn't yet been developed is because the Department of Justice has been stalling in turning over documents and their people haven't testified.

Sheesh, how dumb do you have to be to write this kind of drivel, Julie Hirschfeld Davis?

[DFW]

5. They take a statement from Jon Kyl and call it news?

That's like running a statement from Ahmadi-Nejad on
Judiasm, and calling it news.

When there is overwhelming evidence of ANY crime, usually
an indictment ensues. The defendant gets his day in court,
but he is there to refute evidence against him, as will be
Gonzales and his henchmen in the "Justice" Department.
the evidence does not stand up under scrutiny, or is
successfully refuted, then the defendant is declared to
have done no wrong. If Gonzales and his gang have indeed
done no wrong, they have nothing to fear. If they have, then
they should rightly have something to fear.

If they are proven to have done something wrong, and they still
tink they haven't, then we all have someting to fear. Unfortunately,
that's the scenario I consider the most likely.

[Clark2008]

10. Unfortunately, most political reporters don't know the first thing

about legal reporting and vice versa.

Political reporters probably think prosecuters have smoking guns in every case without realizing that most criminal cases are tried (and garner convictions) on circumstantial evidence. For example, a dead man can't come back and finger his killer and very few murders have eye-witnesses. We have to rely on circumstantial evidence to convict.

This writer doesn't know squat.

[DFW]

13. Most, but not all!

Most who jump to the word processor today, maybe. That's a
sensitive subject with me. My dad was one of the last print
journalists in Washington who had a decades-long rep for being
fair, and got commended from both side for it. In the sixties,
he had two good friends in the Senate named Bob. One's name
was Kennedy and the other was Dole, and you can't get much more
opposite than those two.

But that was another era. Two years before he passed away, he was
decrying the trend away from serious reporting and headlong in the
direction of sensationalism (this was the Monica frenzy of the Clinton
days), and was hoping it would reverse itself. It's almost merciful
he didn't live to see it perverted altogether. His friend Helen Thomas
in now 87. What will we do when she decides to hang it up?

Talk about the last of the Mohicans!

[Norquist Nemesis]

6. Oh, please!!! There could be a dead body on the lawn

with Bush standing over it holding a bloody knife dripping with blood on one side and Karl Rove on the other with gun in hand, still smoking, one bullet missing from the magazine...and these guys would STILL say there's "no evidence". :eyes:

[Red Zelda]

7. You can't spell CRAP

without AP

[blm]

8. This is almost exactly the same approach they took with Swiftliars - giving equal weight and

then bemoaning any option Kerry would take.

This is the problem for this country - the corporate media who answers to its fascist masters and has no concern for truth or for the American people they purport to serve.

[Kablooie]

9. Of COURSE it's circumstantial. That's is exactly why there's an investigation,

to see if there is any hard evidence.

It's correct that so far no clearly incriminating documents have come to light but, as the current subpoena indicates, there are a large amount of relevant documents that have been withheld up to now.

The investigation is 110% warranted. Even if there were no criminal activity, an investigation is still warranted.

[Arkansas Granny]

12. Exactly. And another reason to pursue the investigation is the

fact that they tried to cover it up. If everything was legal and above board, as they claim, they should have had no problem with coming out with the whole truth to begin with.

[trof]

11. This is listed on AZ Republic site under "NEWS"?

And Ms. Davis is listed as an AP "reporter"?
If this ain't 'opinion' then I've never heard one.