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Vyan Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:07 PM
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Showdown at the White House over Iraq
Edited on Tue Apr-10-07 02:16 PM by Vyan
{Crossposted on Truth 2 Power and OpEd News}

Today President Bush has decided to invite Congressional leaders to the White House for a little chat about the war. Except that it seems he plans to do nearly all the talking, especially the ultimatums.

WASHINGTON - President Bush on Tuesday invited Democrats to discuss their standoff over a war-spending bill, but he made clear he would not change his position opposing troop withdrawals. The White House bluntly said the meeting would not be a negotiation.

...

"At this meeting, the leaders in Congress can report on progress on getting an emergency spending bill to my desk," Bush said. "We can discuss the way forward on a bill that is a clean bill, a bill that funds our troops without artificial timetables for withdrawal and without handcuffing our generals on the ground. I'm hopeful we'll see some results soon from the Congress."

That's right, Bush is going to jump up and down until he gets his blank check and try to stare the Democrats nose-to-nose until they finally blink.

But before they take their trip to Bush's would-be wood shed, Harry Reid has a few things to say.

"Iraqi leaders are not willing to take the political risk of governing their own country. That must change," Reid said. "That's what Congress is demanding. That is what the American people, by a large majority, demand. And the president should be leading us in that direction, not threatening to veto funding for our troops unless we rubber stamp his flawed plan."

Nora O'Donnel on MSNBC spoke to Tom Delay in response to Senator Reid asking Who should Blink?

(Not an exact transcript)

Delay: I hope the Democrats do. They're starving the troops, causing them to extend thier tours, not getting them the equipment they need. The American people won't support that.

In point of fact the American People overwhelmingly support a change in direction for the Iraq Conflict.

AP/IPSOS April 2-4:

  • 64% of those polled say they "Disapprove" of how George Bush has handled the War in Iraq.
  • 59% feel that going to War with Iraq was "A Mistake"
  • 50% say the War is "Hopeless"

Newsweek Poll March 28:

  • 57% support the Senate's call for a troop withdrawl by March 2008

CBS Poll March 26-27:

  • 59% feel that the U.S. should pull all troops out by Sept 2008.

Delay also stated that the President is more popular than Congress now, a point which Nora - rather uncharacteristically - argued with stating that Congress has a 40% approval rating while the President is still in the 30% range. Delay countered that the USA Today poll had the President at 38% and the Congress at 32%.

Delay: You have your poll and I have mine...

In point of fact USA Today/Gallup does have the President at 38% and the Congress at 33% while the AP Poll from the same day has the President at 35% and Congress at 40%. Exactly why there's a 7 point swing in the Congressional approval ratings is not clear.

Regardless of who's more popular right now, it's clear that Delay obvious got his latest talking points fax and that Bush is refusing to back down.

"We're at war," Bush said. "It is irresponsible for the Democratic leadership in Congress to delay for months on end while our troops in combat are waiting for the funds they need to succeed."

As Thinkprogress has pointed out it was only been 57 days since Bush requested the latest supplemental funding bill and Democratic Congress passed it. By comparison previous requests took the Republican Congress 119 days in 2006 and 86 days in 2005.

In fact according to reports from Congressional Research Service, our Troops have plenty of funds for the next few months and are far from "starving".

In a memo to the Senate Budget Committee dated Wednesday, the congressional analysts said the Army has enough money in its existing budget to fund operations and maintenance through the end of May — about $52.6 billion. If additional transfer authority is tapped, subject to Congress approving a reprogramming request, the Army would have enough funds to make it through nearly two additional months, or toward the end of July. Using all of its transfer authority, the Army could have as much as $60.1 billion available.

And as a matter of fact, Bush has already begun to tap into his reserves - even though he doesn't really need to yet.

Bush said the Defense Department will soon send Congress a request to transfer $1.6 billion from other military accounts to cover funding for troops — a move needed, he said, because lawmakers have delayed his emergency spending request. He warned that continued delays would undermine troop training, slow the repair of equipment and force soldiers to serve longer tours of duty.

Even though he is clearly trying to put increased pressure on the Democrats, the clear question is whether the Republican caucus will hold. Inspite of Congressional Republicans who have vowed to support a Presidential Veto, Harry Reid has already put forward an even more aggressive bill.

The final decision on exactly what direction we'll take in Iraq may be decided quite soon - will it follow the path that the vast majority of the American public want and prove that "Elections Have Consequences" - or will the President stamp his foot and have his way?

Reid: The President now has to deal with A Congress, he hasn't had that before. {The Republicans} would just rubber-stamp anything he wanted.

That time is over.

Just the fact that we are no long even discussing the "escalation" but are instead arguing the over the timeline for withdrawal and what we truly need - A Force Transition Plan to hand-over responsibility to the Iraqis - is already a step in the right direction.

It won't be long now.

Vyan

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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:10 PM
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1. Tom Delay should have his mouth surgically sewn shut and then kicked out of the country
hasnt he been convicted yet?
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:14 PM
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4. My thoughts exactly.....why isn't he wearing an orange jump suit?
I would call Delay pond scum but at least pond scum is good for something.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:19 PM
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7. How trustworthy is Texas justice?
There's your answer.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 03:12 PM
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12. The US attorney didn't get canned did he.
The one in Texas.
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eagleswing963 Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:23 PM
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9. When he goes to jail
I hope he is stuck in a jail cell with two guys who will "hammer" him every hour of his waking life.

Its fitting justice for a man who fu**ed America!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:13 PM
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2. bush** is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what I'm sure our Founding
Fathers imagined would grace the White House.

They would be so ashamed of our poor country, THEIR COUNTRY. The administration in Washington is not governing according to any of the principals that those great men stood for.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:14 PM
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3. Dems really need to just accept it: the GOP will lie, lie, lie about the troops
Starving the troops! Dems are extending their tours! Dems are stopping the troops from getting equipment they need! I mean come on.

But they're going to say it, and they're going to say it loud and proud, and Dems need to simply stop expecting any Republican to speak the truth about the matter when a lie is so much more politically convenient.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:17 PM
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5. Too bad George's first name is Richard
Then he could be called "King Dick". That's what he thinks he is a KING. That's what happens when your brain is rotted by drugs and alchol. You don't understand the world around you.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:21 PM
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8. how can he? when he referred to New Orleans as this part of the world.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:18 PM
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6. The indicted DeLay is the Republican spokesman?
How perfectly appropriate!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:25 PM
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10. Smirk floats of bunch of shit and sees if his media whores will try to
sell it as food. No change over the last 8 years.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:46 PM
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11. Democrats are STARVING the troops
Gee who decided to feed those damn MRE's to the troops?

But then again we weren't expecting the Iraq War to last over 4 years either.

I suppose we could send bushwad over to Iraq on a weekly basis so he could show off the big turkey. Then maybe the troops wouldn't be losing weight.
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