"Questions Linger About Bushes and BCCI Bank"

[GreenPartyVoter]

NEW YORK - Now that the U.S. Congress is investigating the truth of President George W. Bush’s statements about the Iraq war, they might look into one of his most startling assertions: that there was a link between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. Critics dismissed that as an invention. They were wrong. There was a link, but not the one Bush was selling. The link between Hussein and Bin Laden was their banker, BCCI. But the link went beyond the dictator and the jihadist — it passed through Saudi Arabia and stretched all the way to George W. Bush and his father.

BCCI was the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, a dirty offshore bank that then-president Ronald Reagan’s Central Intelligence Agency used to run guns to Hussein, finance Osama bin Laden, move money in the illegal Iran-Contra operation and carry out other “agency” black ops. The Bushes also benefited privately; one of the bank’s largest Saudi investors helped bail out George W. Bush’s troubled oil investments.

BCCI was founded in 1972 by a Pakistani banker, Agha Hasan Abedi, with the support of Sheik Zayed bin Sultan al Nahyan, ruler of Abu Dhabi and head of the United Arab Emirates. Its corporate strategy was money laundering. It became the banker for drug and arms traffickers, corrupt officials, financial fraudsters, dictators and terrorists.

The CIA used BCCI Islamabad and other branches in Pakistan to funnel some of the two billion dollars that Washington sent to Osama bin Laden’s Mujahadeen to help fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. It moved the cash the Pakistani military and government officials skimmed from U.S. aid to the Mujahadeen. It also moved money as required by the Saudi intelligence services.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/05/326/

[Warpy]

1. BCCI had tentacles into many governments and most

intelligence agencies worldwide. It was how "black ops" money got laundered. The people behind BCCI almost look like a who's who in todays terrorist circles.

If you want to know why they were so terrified of John Kerry in 2004, read "Follow the Money," a very readable article about his part in exposing BCCI and how he did an end run around the GOPs in Congress when they succeeded in shutting his investigation down.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.sirota.html

Kerry did more to slow down terrorism worldwide than any other figure before or since. He attacked the institution that supplied their funds.

[blm]

4. BCCI - a subject that Republicans and coverup Democrats wish would disappear.

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[mtnsnake]

10. At least the OPer presented it without blaming the end of the world on the Clintons

like you always do.

How refreshing!

[blm]

11. If you took the time to understand BCCI, you wouldn't be so comfortable letting

Clinton off the hook for ignoring it the way you do.

If you understood BCCI you would have seen instantly on 9-11 how opening the books on it would have prevented Bush2 and 9-11 and further, this Iraq war policy. But you don't see that, because you really haven't grasped its import and relevance. You spend your time attacking those who DO see and have for a long time that BCCI was a crucial matter for this nation back when it was first being examined and especially now after Bush2 and 9-11. It's not easy.

That takes time. No one said it's easy - but, it does take time and research. And so far you have chosen to mock those of us who bring it up, which is a helluva lot easier for you than taking the effort to read the complexities of the case.

[mtnsnake]

12. Contrary to what you think, I have learned something about BCCI

I've learned that the way you present it is far from the way it really is. I've learned that from several DU'ers who have debunked you on your Anti-Clinton/in bed with Pappy Bush/Coverup Dems/ spiels you paste so very frequently like a broken record that's stuck in the twilight zone.

Like you say, I might not be brilliant enough to grasp all the right concepts about it, but I do know one thing. I know when someone has a personal vendetta against the Clintons and I know when someone will say whatever it takes to railroad them out of town as if they're varmin...when the reality is that they're anything but.

[blm]

13. No. you DON'T know BCCI. If you did, you'd not accept that Clinton wouldn't even mention

it in his book.

[mtnsnake]

14. Well, you've been debunked over & over about it, so I guess we're in the same boat

as far as knowing nothing about BCCI.

I know one thing. Bill Clinton is one of the best presidents ever, despite what you say about him. You shouldn't be so jealous of him just because your idol Kerry blew the campaign to an imbecile. Good gawd, you've even blamed THAT on Clinton. "Those awful Clintons didn't stick up for my Johnny boy when he was getting throttled by the swifties". Everything is the Clinton's fault, just like the right wing says. Yup.

[blm]

17. Only in the minds of Hillary apologists. Here - debunk historian Doug Brinkley

and his observations from April 2004 - You'll do as well as when you 'debunked' Robert Parry on his reporting about Clinton's protection of Poppy Bush, or William Greider's reporting in 2003 that Clintons were only working on a future presidential run for Hillary.



http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

>>>>>
Whom does the biographer think his subject will pick as a running mate? Not Hillary Rodham Clinton. "There's really two different Democratic parties right now: there's the Clintons and Terry McAuliffe and the DNC and then there's the Kerry upstarts. John Kerry had one of the great advantages in life by being considered (unable) to get the nomination in December. He watched every Democrat in the country flee from him, and the Clintons really stick the knife in his back a bunch of times, so he's able to really see who was loyal to him and who wasn't. That's a very useful thing in life."

>>>>>

[mtnsnake]

20. Others have already debunked, so why should I waste my time

I'm not knocking Brinkley at all myself, but not everyone would agree with you on the overall perfection of what the history professor from Tulane writes. He's long been a mouthpiece for his buddy, Kerry, and a good one. Nothing wrong with that. Kerry is a deserving recipient. FYI, for every author who sings Kerry's praises, there are probably ten more singing for the Bill Clinton. There are also just as many authors who would tell you your full of beans about how you spin your tales about the Clintons all the time.

Bill Clinton = Top 5 Best Presidents Ever

John Kerry = Great Senator

Kerry is a good man, a fine Senator, a war hero, a strong environmentalist, a qualified Presidential candidate, but a poor campaigner who failed to connect with the American public and who couldn't beat an imbecile. The only way he'll get into the White House in the near future is if he holds the door open for Obama to go through. :smoke:

[blm]

21. Clinton couldn't have won without Kerry and Dems investigations of Bush1.

Kerry DID win and did so with Dem powerstructure undermining him and with BILL Clinton standing CONSISTENTLY closer to the Bushes than to Dem candidates in 2002 and 2004.

The DNC let the RNC steal it for Bush. Kerry beat Bush in all their matchups.

[AtomicKitten]

24. *

The only way he'll get into the White House in the near future is if he holds the door open for Obama to go through.

:rofl:

Gobama.

[blm]

18. And if you UNDERSTOOD BCCI, you'd actually be as angry as others who wanted

the investigation continued and the documents provided by Clinton's oval office that Bush1 would not turn over.

And if you understood the import of BCCI, then you would also have to question why Clinton decided it wasn't important enough to even mention ONE TIME in his book. Even when the same characters pop up in Bush2 and the 9-11 tragedy.

It is a CITIZEN'S DUTY to hold government to account, not to excuse it for when it protects secrecy and privilege and accept silence that in turn has HARMED our nation. That's what Republicans do.

[mtnsnake]

22. Anything I learned from you about it turned out to be hogwash.

I learned more about it in this one article here in the OP than I ever did in the 13 tons of propaganda that you've dropped on this forum about it.

[blm]

23. Name one thing I said about BCCI that you researched and uncovered to be 'hogwash'

My guess - you never bothered researching BCCI, ever, because this article posted would not contain anything new to those who have already studied BCCI.

[jaksavage]

2. My brain is exploding

Again !

Thanks DU!

[supernova]

3. Boomerang!

Here's it comes again..

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. Ditto for the BFEE. Will they never die and go away?

[blm]

6. If BCCI was fully revealed they would be jailed for life. But we have powerful Democrats

who protect the secrecy and privilege of the Bush family and will stand in the way of those books ever being opened as was done by the first Clinton administration in 1993.

BCCI was never even mentioned ONE time in Clinton's book.

[supernova]

8. Thought we had a bunch of BCCI threads

here at DU, but I couldn't find them in the Research Forum. Maybe I wasn't lookingin the right place.

[blm]

9. Try Octafish's journals.

BTW - nice to see you around again.

[Gregorian]

7. The dots are so close you can't not connect them.

I'd love to be a cartoonist.

Maybe Rolf Harris holding up a partially painted picture. Can you tell what it is yet?

The dots on this picture are so close they are already connected. We can all tell what it is.

And the Saudis are such good friends with the Bushs. More than friends. Family members. Mob family.

Thank goodness this stuff is getting reaired. It's a shame things go so slowly when there's so little journalism in the country.

[GreenPartyVoter]

15. So true. We need a loud and outspoken news media that does true

invetigative journalism. They have the first part covered, but not so much the second.

[blm]

19. Any reporter trying to stay on this story was fired, marginalized or attacked by

other media shilling for the power elite.

IranContra, Iraqgate, CIA drugrunning are all parts of the overall BCCI operation.

Not many reporters these days will risk their lives and bank accounts.

[Gregorian]

25. Then that is the first step to be taken.

I know it's easy for me to spout about what "should" be done. However, what you mention deserves top priority. I suppose it's next to impossible to prove things that are so disconnected. You know, being fired. But somewhere there is proof of being threatened. It's impossible to know it all. But we can't afford, as a country, to let this bs continue.

Argh. I know I'm being naive. It's the way the world has always worked. But it's time to change.

[blm]

26. That's why Parry started consortiumnews 10yrs ago. To preserve some pursuit of truth.

And why Hersch doesn't work for a newspaper.

And why an excellent reporter like Gary Webb committed suicide.

Uggghhh....it makes me shake with anger every time I think of it.

[leftofthedial]

16. financing the Third Reich

murdering JFK

The 1980 October Surprise

The Savings and Loan debacle

Iran Contra

BCCI

The hunting of Bill Clinton

The theft of the 2000 "election"

The 9-11 attacks

Lies that led to the illegal invasion of Iraq

etc., etc., etc.