Terry Macauliffe is Hillary's campaign manager???

[underpants]

Oh sweet heaven what more could we all ask for???

I saw this on NBC News last night ("Clinton campaign manager" under face) and I laughed out loud.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=politics&id=4991430
Clinton's Campaign Manager Talks To ABC7
Jan.31
For the record, Senator Clinton supports capping the number of troops in Iraq and requiring the president to get Congressional approval to escalate. Her campaign manager is the former head of the Democratic party, Terry McAuliffe.

Terry McAuliffe: "Listen, we just got into this campaign a week ago, she's doing great, she's beating the Democratic field by three-to-one."

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/obama-boasts-30m-war-chest/2007/04/05/1175366406457.html
April 6, 2007

"She's won the first primary — the money primary — and now people are going to focus right back on all the issues," Mr McAuliffe said. "We're in a great position. This is going to be a long, drawn-out primary. We're going to have to earn this nomination."

[napi21]

1. That was announced quite some time ago. I don't see any big deal

there. Terry was a close friend of both Clintons for a very long time.

[truedelphi]

2. Yep, he's the same face that was Telling Chris Matthews how

Fabulous it was that Clinton has a strong pro war stance.

[mtnsnake]

4. Did he use the words "pro war" or are those YOUR words.

If they're his, drop us a link to the transcript.

[truedelphi]

13. Okay I was paraphrasing

I try to keep some of my responses brief.

Matthews asked her manager about Hillary's stance that "all options" Re: Iran should be on the table.

MacAuliffe began discussing Hillary's take that a confrontation with Iran might be necessary.

Matthews indicated his concern about that. I think he went and said something like wasn't MacAuliffe concerned? And MacAuliffe replied to the effect that no, he thought it was great that Hillary was strong on this.

I don't know why Hillary supporters can't see her as she is. She totally bought into the War on Iraq.
Her televised sound bytes of that time even mentioned her having seen the devastation of 9/11 (as though Iraq had anything to do with 9/11)

She is willing to do war with Iran.

Her husband introduced Depleted uranium into warfare - warfare that has as its battlefield cities where civilians are exposed to the effects.

This couple might have worn "War in not good for children and other living things" buttons back in the sixties, but that is definitely not who they are now.

[mtnsnake]

17. Thank you for the clarification

She is willing to do war with Iran

I don't think you're going to find a single Democratic candidate, with the exception of Dennis Kucinich possibly, who won't say that they wouldn't leave any opions off the table. This doesn't mean any of them, including Hillary, would ever consider war as anything other than the LAST option.

[NYCGirl]

22. Here's the transcript:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17065861/

MATTHEWS: Look forward. Say we‘re not going to war in Iran?

MCAULIFFE: She just said at the DNC meeting the other day. If the troops are out and I‘m president, the first thing I‘m going to do is bringing the troops home. Maybe she is a hawk when it comes to protecting our country.

MATTHEWS: She just went to AIPAC and said whatever is necessary in Iran. I am taking no options off the table.

MCAULIFFE: Maybe she is a hawk when it comes to protecting our country. She agrees we ought to be strong.

MATTHEWS: Iran is a threat to America?

MCAULIFFE: We don‘t know but she‘s going to be very tough. You have to be strong in a post-9/11 world.

MATTHEWS: Then we‘re going to have a choice between two hawks.

MCAULIFFE: All she is saying is she‘s going to be strong. She‘s going to protect America and she will make smart decisions.

MATTHEWS: Where are the antiwar Democrats going to go?

MCAULIFFE: You want a smart leader. You want someone who‘s smart and she‘s smart, and she‘s tough.

MATTHEWS: You want a choice, not an echo.

MCAULIFFE: You‘re right we want a choice.

[Hart2008]

25. she will make smart decisions? Really?

"MCAULIFFE: All she is saying is she‘s going to be strong. She‘s going to protect America and she will make smart decisions."

If she didn't make smart decisions about declaring war before, why should we think she will make smart decisions in the future?

She, and the rest of the Senate clique who voted for the war, made a political calculation to support the emperor.

Now let them answer for that decision.

:kick: HART2008! :kick:

[mtnsnake]

Big kudos to you, city girl, for providing that transcript and what was actually said!

:toast:

[truedelphi]

40. Here's the part that concerns me

In answer to Matthews "Is Iran a threat to America."

MacAuliffe: MCAULIFFE: We don‘t know but she‘s going to be very tough. You have to be strong in a post-9/11 world

They still don't know. She didn't KNOW when she decided on the need for the Iraqi war. She doesn't KNOW the full story on Iran but my guess is that if another Pearl harbor style PNAC event occurs <one blamed on Iran this time> that inflames the passions of the media and the public, Hillary will again not need to know, she'll again be out to do what the polls tell her to do.

I am starting to get what people see in her. In the old days, you had these guys that chomped on cigars and sat in the back rooms and strategized how to get a base of voters. They were "pols."
None of them were ever women. But now we are of an age where finally we have a woman "pol", minus the cigar of course. And a lot of women respect Hillary for that, because in their lives they have strategized to get ahead etc.

And that would be fine by me except right now I am convinced part of Hillary's strategy is to keep the military contractors happy - and to look strong (which mean "act strong") and that could lead this woman to get us into a war.

I would much rather have someone like Jim Webb who would actually agonize a little over the facts and maybe even make sure of the facts.

[blm]

3. He's been working towards Hillary 2008 since Jan 2001. That's why he ignored the party's real needs

and infrastructure building before the 2002 and 2004 elections and why he ignored the SECURITY of the election process in even the most crucial swing states.

Terry targeted a big chunk of the DNC money and organizing efforts for DC centric projects. Everything else was a dog and pony show for him while they waited for Hillary's 2008 campaign.

[AtomicKitten]

30. McAullife did a good job at the DNC -- gave Dean something to build on

... in spite of your nonstop campaign to disrespect him.

McAuliffe Is Dems' Comeback Kid
DNC Chair Fought for Stability, Financial Strength
By Thomas B. Edsall
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, July 26, 2004; Page A22

BOSTON, July 25 -- On Monday night, Terence R. McAuliffe's party will hail him as a hero, the first Democratic chairman in decades to put the party on secure financial footing -- with an unheard-of $70 million in the bank -- and on the cutting edge of high-tech politics.

When McAuliffe gavels the Democratic convention to order at FleetCenter, he will be honored by the 5,672 delegates and alternates as the man who almost single-handedly put the Democratic Party back together again.

"Serving as chairman of the party when you don't have the White House, and you don't have the House, and you don't have the Senate, is the toughest job in the country," Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) told The Washington Post. "Thanks to Terry McAuliffe, we are ready to lead this country, we're ready to change this nation and I thank him for his leadership."

* snip *

McAuliffe expects that when his term ends in early 2005, "I am going to walk off the stage and everything we said will have been accomplished. . . . The new chairman, whoever it might be, will take over a party financed by millions of dollars that will automatically come in at the touch of a button, new facilities, no debt and voter files. This party is now secure for 25 years."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14038-2004Jul25.html

[blm]

31. DC centric agenda while party infrastructure in too many states collapsed.

Too bad for Kerry that he BELIEVED McAuliffe when he promised Democrats his Office of Voter Integrity would counter GOP vote suppression and assure that Dem votes get cast and counted.

[AtomicKitten]

32. Really? McAullife was in on the fix? Owns Diebold you say?

:sarcasm:

[truedelphi]

41. Carville "helped" Kerry see that it woul dbe pointless to hold

And get the vote in Ohio counted.

maybe that was just Carville. Or maybe it was an over-riding game plan that Ms CLinton, MacAuliffe and Carville and others had put together.

if Gore had become President in 2000, and/or Kerry in 2004, one or the other of them would be running in 2008. That sure would have disrupted the Senator from NY's determination to be President.

Of course, ultimately the blame for Kerry conceding comes down to Kerry not holding out. And he PROMISED to. (Gawd, am I naive - I still think thatt politicians are going to remember and abide by their promises.)

[mdmc]

34. I hope he does for Hillary what he did for the DNC

He took some money from Walmart and their ilk, then set up democrats.org .

Please do the same great things for Hillary.

:(

[GreenTea]

37. You got it. McAuliffe is a corporate whore, he's a mob bag-man for the corporate DLC.

McAuilffe doesn't care about any ideology least of all progressive, and he doesn't have any scruples what-so-ever. McAuilffe only cares & lust begins and ends with money!

[mdmc]

39. The American Dream

$

[wyldwolf]

5. Bill Clinton is Hillary's husband???

[Learn2Swim]

16. Well technically,

sort of.

I keed. I keed. :7

[durrrty libby]

6. "Terry Macauliffe is Hillary's campaign manager???"

And So? The concern is what?

[Bitwit1234]

7. Guess when it comes to Hillary hating

the democrats can't read either. I think it has been posted; it has even been in the news about seventy leven times....HILLARY CLINTON SAID IF SHE KNEW WHAT SHE KNEW AFTER BUSH'S LIES WERE EXPOSED SHE WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED FOR THE WAR. And there were 20 or more democratic senators who voted for the war also...Wonder why the democrats that continually read the republican swiftboating hold her responsible for her vote but don't hold the other senators responsible. Especially since she and Edwards are about the only two you have heard say they wouldn't have voted....

[mtnsnake]

9. Selective criticism is so convenient for them

Same thing for the Patriot Act. You'd think that she was the only one who voted for it by the sounds of it around here sometimes.

[Le Taz Hot]

10. I usually don't respond

to these but there's just too many holes here.

1. Being against a particular candidate does not equal hate. It means people don't like her and/or her policies.

2. The claim of "knowing then what I know now" has been successfully countered on this board ad nauseum but just in case you missed it, here it is: Little ole' me (and millions of others throughout the world) somehow managed to know what our rush to invade Iraq was about. We did our research which was readily available to anyone with internet access (available at your public library). If Hillary wasn't aware of that information, she was incompetent. If she did know and voted yes for political reasons (ding ding ding!), she has no soul knowing that her vote would help send hundreds of thousands of innocents to their deaths.

3. Do you even understand what swiftboating is? The whole swiftboating incident had to do with lies told about John Kerry (and believe me, I am NOT a fan of Sen. Kerry's) regarding his Viet Nam experience. There are no lies being told here. Hillary voted FOR the IWR. Sorry, but she can't run away from that vote. And those 20 other Democratic Senators? Just as culpable and I don't think anyone here is saying they weren't. It is true that because Edwards apologized for his vote some are willing to overlook it. But there are many many on this board and elsewhere who aren't that forgiving. I'm one of them. For reference, see #2.

[dflprincess]

12. And there were 23 senators who voted AGAINST the IWR

Including Wellstone who had been told that a vote against it would cost him his senate seat.

[Hart2008]

20. The actual discussion about the war in the Senate

What was the actual discussion about the war in the Senate?

As stated in another thread:

"One unnamed Senator, possibly now a candidate for our nomination, actually said, "we'll give him this vote, get it out of the way and then be able to focus the 2002 election on the issues we do best on: the economy, education, healthcare, corporate corruption."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-zogby/four-years-la...
This statement is a fair representation of how this Senator’s club played politics with the matter of war and peace. To them authorizing a war was nothing more than a political football, something to punt away. And these people want to be our President?

But if we are to judge the war authorization vote from a purely political perspective, and ignore the morality of playing politics when voting for war, this group is still inept. Not a single Senator in this clique offered an alternative to the Republican war authorization. They sat back and allowed the opposition to frame the debate as a choice between one, and only one, option: the pseudo-war resolution. (A pseudo-war resolution, in that it was not the declaration of war as required by the Constitution.) There was, of course, one wise man, who counseled Senate Democrats to avoid getting painted into a corner politically. "I told them, 'Don't get into a situation where you have to vote up or down on his war resolution; propose an alternative,'" :
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2003/04/03/hart...
That wise man was, of course, Gary Hart. (Hart suggested increasing inspections by 3 or 4 fold with a U.N. force, a nationwide no fly-zone, and inspections of all commerce entering an leaving Iraq. All of which would have been cheaper than the war and present occupation.) To make such an alternative proposal required thought and effort, and was something none of these Senators choose to do.

Perhaps they were to busy raising money and planning their Presidential campaigns?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3193854

Oh no, this is not about singling out any one Senator for a wrong vote. ANY one of these Senator’s should be disqualified from the nomination because of it.

The reality is that in order to win the general election this party needs to put forth a candidate with impeccable foreign policy experience. Both Edwards and Clinton are responsible for the war AND they lake serious foreign policy credentials.

They can’t run against the Republican war since they voted for it.

How can we demand accountability from the Republicans for the war if we don’t demand it in our own party?

:kick: HART 2008! :kick:

[MannyGoldstein]

8. She's In - And She's In To Win!

Terry will do for her what he did for all of our candidates when he was head of the DNC.

:popcorn:

[lyonn]

18. Poor Hillary, she is putting her faith in Terry.

All I can say is I'm glad Howard Dean is running the Party now!! Way too many loses with Terry directing things. He spoke well but he said nothing. No wonder he didn't get in trouble with the media like Dean. Dean was too honest. Hillary is applying the same rules Terry has used for years and lost many elections for the Dems. She needs to speak out, that is what bothers many of us that would consider backing Hillary.

[saracat]

11. Not true.He is her Campaign Chair.There is a difference.

He is raising money for her not planning strategy!

[underpants]

15. Excuse me I stand corrected

:spank: me

[blm]

33. The Clintons wouldn't trust McAuliffe in strategy position for THEM, just for the Dem PARTY

Because they knew he was never capable of strategizing and organizing - just good at getting money out of bigwigs.

[wyldwolf]

14. ! ! ! ! ! ! W A R N I N G: This Thread Contains Factually Inaccurate Information ! ! ! ! ! !

Patti Solis Doyle is Hillary Clinton's Campaign Manager, not Terry McAuliffe

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2006/12/hillary_rodham_clinton_picks_p.html

[mtnsnake]

19. Thank you. Saracat, too

I hope you post it as another thread to lessen any damage that's already been done by this misinformation that was inadvertently posted here.

[mmonk]

21. Thanks for that.

Makes all the difference in the world.:eyes: And where does Mr. Matalyn fit in all of this?

[mtnsnake]

23. No need to be bitter, mmonk

The truth sucks, doesn't it (snicker)

[mmonk]

26. Not bitter, sarcastic.

No way I could be bitter over a man that has called our party the "Democrat Party" slur.

[PresidentObama]

24. Glad to hear that.

Not a fan of Terry McAuliffes. Glad to hear the truth in that he isn't the campaign manager of the Clinton campaign. Still not a fan of him being on board for Clinton, but I didn't like Shrum on the Kerry campaign in 2004....and I still supported the guy!!

[SOS]

27. Thank you for the clarification!!!!!

The Global Crossing crook is the Chairman, not the manager!!!!
:eyes:

[truedelphi]

42. Someone needs to tell Chris MAtthews that and also to

mention to MacAuliffe that if he is introduced as her campaign manager/director etc that he should speak up and make the correction that is needed.

Piece of introduction from Chris Matthews show: (actual transcript)
MATTHEWS: Welcome back to HARDBALL. A little bit less than a year before the primaries and caucuses are underway. Who‘s on the best shape in the Democratic side?

Terry McAuliffe is Hillary Clinton‘s campaign chairman. He was chairman, by the way, of the Democratic National Committee and author right now of the hot Washington bestseller, “What a Party! My Life Among Democrats, Presidents, Candidates, Donors, Activists, Alligators and Other Wild Animals.” See that book, it‘s in your book store right now. It‘s probably up front near the point of purchase cash register.

TERRY MCAULIFFE, HILLARY CLINTON‘S CAMPAIGN DIRECTOR: Beautiful.

[Jack Rabbit]

28. You didn't know that?

That's why I'm not worried about Hillary.

She may be the front runner know, but Terry McAuliffe will fix that before the primaries start. He has a long history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Hippo_Tron]

29. I highly doubt he's doing strategy, probably just fundraising

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[underpants]

36. What a fantastic post

You should start a thread with that.

:applause:

[Cascadian]

38. Terry McAuliffe almost ruined the Democratic Party.

Just like James Carville, he is a DLC wonk and he almost wrecked the Democratic Party! If people want to measure the DLC's success by just Bill Clinton alone then they are more dillusional than I thought. You don't believe me?

1994 Election.....GOP wins
2000 Election.....GOP wins
2002 Election.....GOP wins
2004 Election.....GOP wins

Hardly a proud record to have. I am glad there are people like Howard Dean who are working hard to give the Democratic Party back to the people instead of corporatists who pander to the military-industrial complex.


John