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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:57 PM Original message |
Where the fuck is all this money coming from, anyway? |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Off the backs of the vanishing middle class, from our schools, |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Potholes, schools, and state parks donate to candidates? |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. The lobbies for privatization.... |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. I'm not sure about that. I'd say somehow corporations are buying in. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 08:12 AM Response to Reply #17 |
55. It's called bundling and it's the (pardon the expression) elephant in the living room. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. I believe SOME of the money is coming from republicans wanting |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. As of late.... |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. exactly |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. agreed |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. Apperently a lot of it is coming from small donors |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Not impossible, but pretty tough to do. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. Clinton had 50,000 donors, not half a million |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Thanks for the link. How do those numbers jibe with the "80 percent of donors gave $100 or less"? |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. It does work out... |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Thanks! |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. I'm not buying it |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #69 |
80. I see your point |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Maybe I'm mistaken |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. The 80% who paid in $100 or less |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Corporations are prohibited by law from contributing to federal campaigns |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. God, you are kidding, right? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 07:46 AM Response to Reply #43 |
54. Those working for corporations can contribute, but the corporations themselves are prohibited |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. But they are not prohibited from "donating" to the parties. n/t |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #39 |
60. May I tell you how that's done? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. A firm here in FL just got caught doing that |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. every now and then one or two get caught |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #60 |
87. Thank you! Please expand this and post it. Far too many people, |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. Here's where you're wrong: "The economy is actually pretty sucky." |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. How much should Gore have spent in 2000 for 534 votes? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Gore won Florida. n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. By how many votes? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. It's hard to say, exactly. there were all the provisionals, the under votes, the |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. If he had won it by thousands more, they would have stolen thousands more |
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solara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. Agreed. I wonder where it comes from too.. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. 80 % of Clinton's contributions were $100 or less |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I heard that too, but the math seems not to work very well ....... |
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solara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I am candidate neutral too..since the primaries are still a year away |
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NCarolinawoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #30 |
66. I feel as you do. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
81. Not rough for the CEOs at all |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. it came out of our wallets, schools, roads, hospitals, infrastructure . . . |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. stinky |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
15. The economy only sucks |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. 1/3 of workers earn less than $11 hr |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Ok |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. $46,326, median household income |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Yes, it is |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. 30 years |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Uh no |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #38 |
67. The ability to pay your bills |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. health, retirement, education |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Response |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Response |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Right on, sandnsea! THAT's the point |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
82. Honestly, I think you're living in a buble. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Correct |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Not in most of California |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
73. Make that the top 1%. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. BOTTOM 20????? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #26 |
57. Yep and that's why we only hear about this in terms of large groups. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
22. Well, I want them to have to tell us |
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anitar1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
27. Read David Sirota columns and find out more about that.n/t |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
28. I think dozens of americans... |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
29. Money is imaginary |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Exactly (nt) |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
72. Let me guess |
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Township75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
33. How come these people have money for a primary but not a charity? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Between the two parties a projected TWO BILLION DOLLARS |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Because money buys access to power. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
41. The money is all coming from people who are SICK & TIRED of Bushie boy! |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I doubt it |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
44. Really isn't...in fact it is a very good sign |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. We want change |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
78. It would only cost $6 |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Check your math |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Didn't see the split between large and small donors... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Under the circumstances |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Hillary did come out for public financing... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #51 |
77. Thanks for the tip |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
46. w's tax cuts. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
52. once again.... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
53. I wouldn't mind seeing a detailed donor list, |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
59. Well, corporations do own the government. And they have to PAY for it |
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PhilipShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
61. The military-Industrial-Complex |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #61 |
79. It's a HELL of a lot more than $450B |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
74. Obama refuses donations from lobbyists and PAC's. |
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retread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
76. Twenty-five dollars of Obama's total came from the retread household. n/t |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-04-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. Ours too ... So that makes $50 :-) |
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