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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:52 AM
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John Edwards and Fair Trade
From Edwards website:

Big Idea: Fair Trade

Why are the experts wrong so often about the impact of "free trade"?

What is wrong with "fair trade" agreements? Why is it that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) was sold as a job creator but turned out to be a destroyer of jobs both North and South of the border?

Its very simple. The arguments for these so-called "free trade" agreements are about how the agreements work in a make-believe world. The make-believe world is different from the real world in very important ways. So when set loose in the real world, the predictions turn out to be false.

Much more here: http://blog.johnedwards.com/story/2006/4/17/125445/287

Here is an excerpt from an interview with Edwards:

Q: To me, one of the least mentioned yet most important facets of the 2006 campaign was the issue of trade. And there's a pretty clear within the Senate, which has traditionally been more free trade perhaps towards getting a fairer trade or not giving as much latitude towards the President. Sherrod Brown, being the leader against CAFTA in the House, Bernie Sanders, etc. Where do you see that balance?

Edwards: I think we've gotten caught in this... And even the language, free trade/fair trade. I think the answer is smart trade. We want trade that works for American workers, that works for other workers around the world. I think that there should be real environmental and labor standards in our trade agreements, international standards that are achievable but that are enforceable. I don't think that we should use trade agreements, the standards in them, as a ruse for protectionism. I don't think that's right. So the nuance of how you set the standards is really important. But they shouldn't be standardless. They ought to have real standards in them.

And then the other thing that we have to do that that we're doing a terrible job of right now is providing a safety net for people who are hit directly by trade. Communities, families, people who have lost their jobs - the safety net it pitiful. We've lost the social contract in America. It used to be that employers provided. But now because the employers are leaving, taking jobs to other places, there is not safety net. The only people who can provide is our government. So we have to take some serious steps to strengthen the safety net for people who are damaged by trade.

Much more here: http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/2/7/12834/09259

Here is an editorial by Phil Gailey with the St. Petersburg Times. It is not a particularly flattering editorial for Edwards and I cite it to show that even Edwards's critics agree that he's going further for fair trade than the other candidates. Edwards plants his flag out in left field:

Caught up in March Madness - presidential campaigning, not basketball - I have begun to tune out Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama for the moment as I try to size up the one Southern Democrat in the race, former U.S. Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina. While most of the other top-tier Democratic contenders are staying close to the political center, Edwards has swerved to the left. I find that interesting, because it occurred to me that three of the most prominent liberal voices in the Democratic Party these days are Southerners - former President Jimmy Carter, former Vice President Al Gore and now Edwards. Talk about a New South.

I use the word "liberal" loosely and only to suggest that the three Southerners have taken positions on issues that put them in favor with their party's left wing, from anti-war activists to Wal-Mart bashers. Of course, you don't have to be a liberal to hate the Iraq war or to resent corporate greed.... On the home front, Edwards has proposed a universal health-care plan that would cost as much as $120 billion a year, paid for with tax increases on the wealthiest Americans. According to The Washington Post, he tells audiences that his plan could lead to a government-run, single-payer health-care system, a position no other Democrat has taken so far.

You won't hear Edwards promising to reduce the federal deficit, either. He says investing more in education, alternative energy sources and antipoverty programs is more important than deficit reduction.

His domestic agenda is appealing. However, it remains to be seen how moderate and independent voters will react to the way Edwards has thrown himself prostrate at the feet of union bosses and liberal bloggers. He has joined union protesters on picket lines outside Wal-Mart stores, and his campaign manager is David Bonior, a former Michigan congressman who has close ties with organized labor. Edwards talks about "fair trade" to disguise his protectionist leanings....
More recently, Edwards refused to participate in a Democratic debate in Nevada after Net-roots activists urged candidates to boycott the debate because it was co-sponsored by Fox News. Edwards was the first to bail out, and the debate was canceled. At this rate, we shouldn't be surprised if Edwards invites Michael Moore to join him on the campaign trail.

http://www.ocala.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070325/OPINION/203250321/1030/OPINION

Here is yet another editorial (this one's from James Pethokoukis for US News & World Report) which is even more critical of Edwards for going too far in his support of fair trade. Edwards Raises the Protectionist Banner:

Given the growing the skepticism of free trade within his own party–last month, House Democrats voted 94-90 against approving normal trade relations with Vietnam–he wondered aloud if there would be any "full-throated Sherrod Brown types" running for the Democratic nomination. Brown, the newly elected U.S. senator from Ohio, is a vocal free-trade opponent. As Podesta sees it, the "the big question is where Edwards comes out." Edwards ran a populist campaign during the 2004 Democratic presidential primaries, talking about how there were "two Americas"–though Edwards didn't get many votes from either.

This is where Bonior comes in. Before retiring from the House in 2002 and unsuccessfully running for governor of the Wolverine State, Bonior was one of the most protectionist members of Congress, not too surprising for a Michigan Democrat, of course. While in Congress, Bonior voted for withdrawing from the World Trade Organization, voted against presidential fast-track trade authority as well as giving China most-favored-nation trading status. His inclusion on Team Edwards leaves little doubt that the former trial lawyer will be the Sherrod Brown or Patrick Buchanan of the Dem primaries, bashing free trade and China all around the country.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/capitalcommerce/061205/election_08_edwards_raises_the.htm?s_cid=rss:site1
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:15 AM
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1. just last night we were wondering about Edwards' stand on trade
i really hope this issue gets play.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:52 AM
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3. This is a key issue that cuts across party lines. I hope it catches fire.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 12:03 PM
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4. it could be a "tipping point" issue
in a campaign populated with many of similar centrist position, his ideas on trade will set him apart.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:17 AM
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2. John Edwards, a man who lives in the real world.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 12:05 PM
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5. Looks like he's getting to be my "guy" more and more. All bets are off if Gore jumps in though. n/t
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 12:09 PM
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6. This issue could have won Ohio in 2004
if the Kerry campaign had a stronger stance in favor of fair trade and campaigned on it more.

This issue more than any other tells us who stands for the people and who will be a hired hand for the multi-national corporations.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 04:28 PM
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8. Fair Trade vs. "Free" Trade was one of a few issues where Kerry and Edwards didn't see eye to eye
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 12:13 PM
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7. Experts weren't wrong
Edited on Tue Apr-03-07 12:14 PM by Nederland
Politicians were wrong, economic experts weren't.

All economists ever claimed is that Free Trade would result in more trade--an it did, unquestionably.

Now, it is true that most economists believe that more trade is a "good" thing in the long run for most people. The problem is that "most people" does not mean everybody and in the "long run" we are all dead.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:37 AM
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9. Unfortunately, he favors more H1B visas
http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/Library/Politicians/Edwards.htm

That really sucks. Though I'm glad he's moving more in the direction of fair trade. I think he's better than Clinton or Obama here.
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NormanYorkstein Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:52 AM
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10. why would Edwards support H1Bs? I don't get it
I thought he first got elected on a pro-jobs platform?
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 03:08 AM
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11. I don't get it either
Edited on Wed Apr-04-07 03:15 AM by eridani
I think concerns about corporate support may sometimes override his instinctive populism.
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