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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 08:56 PM Original message |
Does anybody else find the amount of money these candidates are raising to be positively obscene? |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, I wish people would vote for the ones that don't spend a lot |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. American politics are based on selling a product |
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Wwagsthedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. Its obscene that the MSM uses money to keep score. |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Yes. I guess the candidate who raises the most money wins. |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. It does seem that our values are pretty screwed up. |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. PS I like Dennis. But he is too good, too honest and too forward thinking to be president. |
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southerncrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. I like Dennis, too. But America is now like a child from a dysfunctional home. |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:16 AM Response to Reply #28 |
48. Great analogy! n/t |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 06:36 AM Response to Reply #28 |
54. I have been saying for years that we are the dysfunctional family from hell. |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 06:38 AM Response to Reply #28 |
55. PS BushCo is the perfect reflection of the dark side of the American psyche. |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
45. and MSM benefits with all those ads, brings $$ into their coffers. |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 05:59 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. You can see the gleam in their eyes--all those ads! Political consultants too. |
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AnOhioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. The hoopla over fundraising is yet another reason |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. I find the entire election structure to be obscene. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. Fucking scumbag corporate donors don't decide shit. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:22 AM Response to Reply #29 |
46. I disagree completely. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
71. How do they buy Congress? |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Right and in return for that money and more they get to write the laws. |
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southerncrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. Completely agree. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
66. That is how it should be. An even playing field. |
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The Gunslinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. Yes I do. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. Dems raising money successfully should be considered a good thing |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. You see I do consider it a good thing or rather a necessary evil. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. I expect a big media fight for the early California primary |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. I haven't voted in a contested primary since I moved from New York. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 08:13 AM Response to Reply #24 |
60. California was in the same situation in 2004 |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Ohio moves its primary from May to March in presidential election years |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. At least you know who is buying our candidates which is also |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Personally I think they should wear their sponsors logos on their business suits |
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ncrainbowgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. HA! I love it! |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Senator Blowhard brought to you be General Electric--we bring good things to light. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. That's a very good idea! |
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Aussie leftie (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. What an absolutely brilliant idea. |
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NCarolinawoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. Great idea! Now t.hat is worth a letter to Cafferty or a call-in to C-Span Washington Journal. n/t |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
12. Let's just skip elections altogether. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
13. yes. problem is that you gotta have that this year to compete |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
15. I like the old time way |
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southerncrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. I miss the old days, too. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:40 AM Response to Reply #15 |
76. The primary system was at its best between 1972 and 1992 |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
16. yes |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
17. It is so uplifting , I will hold my nose as |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
19. How much would you have paid for 534 Florida votes in 2000? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
20. It doesn't have to be this way |
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southerncrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. My grandmother was from Canada; I think I might just move there! |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
21. if kucinich or gore or dean had that much and were running it would be good |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I'm not even suggesting that all or even most of the candidates are crooks. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
23. No - you're most definitely not alone. |
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southerncrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. I'd vote for ya, Clark2008! |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
36. "WHAT THE HELL DO YOU INTEND TO USE IT FOR? " |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. The Giuliani/Edwards numbers are PRE-Elizabeth announcement. |
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morningglory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
37. I never used to get involved in campaigns. When I pass a fool on a street |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
38. The people who can afford to drop that kind of money on an election |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
39. yup |
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AshevilleGuy (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
40. The nominee will win by attrition. Good-bye, smoke filled rooms. |
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NCarolinawoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
43. AIPAC, drug companies, insurance companies, media conglomerates.... |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 07:57 AM Response to Reply #43 |
56. I would love to see all bundlers listed |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
44. Everything in this country is about money. Expecting elections to be different |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
47. I find damned near everything about our political system these days |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 05:09 AM Response to Original message |
49. Politics is a less violent form of war. War is obscene. (nt) |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
50. 90% of campaign cash goes to buy TV ads |
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NCarolinawoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #50 |
63. No wonder all the talking news heads are grinning ear to ear, egging this on! |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #50 |
74. And usually the T.V. ads are all image and fluff with no substance. nt |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
52. Positively obscene |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
53. I have this weird disconnect: |
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enough already (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
57. How many starving kids could be fed for $36 million? n/t |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
58. Hotline reports that about $20M of Hillary's money came from major donors. |
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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
59. It clearly points out why we need publicly financed elections |
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Peggy Day (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
61. Publicly Funded Elections with air time on "our" airwaves nt |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
62. The Media loves it....like reporting on a Sports SuperStar's latest contract. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
64. No...26 Mil...50,000 contributers...$520 average contribution... |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
65. It stinks--and we are as guilty as the pukes. By the same token, what can you do? |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
67. I really hate it... |
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windbreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
69. Yes, yes, and yes....disgusting... |
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IA_Seth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
70. It'll get worse with all of the front-loading, thanks DNC! n/t |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
73. Yes. nt |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
75. It's COMPLETELY out of control! |
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