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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:08 AM
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I really think all these investigations just amount to a tempest in a teapot.
Sure, lots of assistants, and cronies will go to jail but until Bush and Cheney are directly in the crosshairs we really haven't gotten anywhere.

And it seems that even all these investigations, as soon as they see the trail leads directly to Bush or Cheney seem to veer off in some other direction. NO ONE HAS THE GUTS TO TAKE THEM ON DIRECTLY.

I know a lot of you will fume and fuss about all the mighty justice that is being done but STILL Cheney and Bush are merrily tooting their assholes at the whole world and every one here just sits and smells.

WHEN DO WE HEAR THAT CHENY AND BUSH ARE ON THE RUN?

I guess I'm just an impatient fool but damn it seems I've been waiting a long time.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:10 AM
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1. The corrupt W administration is dying by a thousand cuts
Hang in there for the results.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:21 AM
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3. Seem it's being annoyed by a thousand cuts.
It will take 13 trillion cuts to kill it and do we have enough time for that?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:14 AM
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2. Watergate had the same feeling in the beginig
this is quite organic actually
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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:26 AM
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5. Exactly. It seemed like it would be forever.
Of course I was much younger then - time seemed to pass more slowly.

But still, with Watergate it was up and down, hurry up and wait, hot one week cold the next.

But I can promise you: when we are GETTING THERE you will know, you won't have to ask. ;-)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:28 AM
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6. It is starting to feel like we are getting close
:-)

remember to feed your congress critters
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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:36 AM
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7. I am trying to remember, at what date did we really suspect
that Nixon was going? Must have been sometime in late July 1974. The afternoon that Goldwater and Scott went to the WH was IT, of course, but I can't recall how long before that, that there was no doubt - I don't think it was too long before.

BTW: Nixon resigned on my birthday!! What a night THAT was! We woke up on the floor and in beds at my cousin's house; I was under a coffee table!! :D And Ford had already been sworn in - we missed it!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:46 AM
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8. From my history professors
I was too young and not even in the US at the time, the Saturday Night Massacre

(Yes professor Cheek I paid attention in your class... and while he read the time line, Dylan's "times are a'changing softly played on)
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 03:23 AM
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12. As I remember it
The first body blows were John Dean in June and Alexander Butterfield in July of '73...

The Saturday Night Massacre on October 20 of '73 and its aftermath showed the world how crooked the son of a bitch was...

Then, July 27, 1974: House Judiciary Committee passes the first of three articles of impeachment, charging obstruction of justice.

That was IT for that pig...

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:25 AM
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13. I think Butterfield's mentioning of the tapes was the real bombshell.
That led to the fight over control of the tapes which Nixon eventually lost and that motivated him to hire Ford to pardon him going out the door.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 03:00 PM
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15. Yeah, that was something
Edited on Tue Mar-27-07 03:01 PM by ProudDad
The eruption in the chambers when Butterfield told about the taping and John Dean's "There's a cancer growing in the White House" are two of my most vivid memories of the hearings...

Ahhh....good times....
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:47 AM
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9. I remember the early parts of the
Watergate hearings. They swore in the guy who investigated the break-in. That was slow stuff.

And who had heard of Alexander Butterfield or John Dean? What could they contribute? Many people thought Dean was a liar, until the tapes backed up everything he said.

It played out like a Greek tragedy.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 03:15 AM
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11. You've got THAT right
And I'm lovin' every ever-lovin' minute of it.

Let them all twist in the wind...
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:53 AM
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14. "Just a third rate burglary"
That resulted in the fall of an administration and the first and only resignation of a president.
About 2 jumps ahead of the impeachment posse, I would add.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:26 AM
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4. Democracy is slow. Tyranny is speedy.
You've become used to the speed of tyranny.

In democracy, everyone has a voice, and everyone's opinion counts, even the ones you disagree with. This nation was deliberately constructed to be unworkable without compromise. Achieving an equitable compromise TAKES TIME.

Frankly, the speed at which this is moving has me breathless.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 01:47 AM
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10. Me too, this is going faster than I expected
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