Rasmussen Poll.. Hillary LEADS... again!

[Tellurian]

March 26 2007


HILLARY---37%

OBAMA---25%

EDWARDS---17%

March 19 2007

Hillary---35%

Obama---30%

Edwards---11%


Hillary & Edwards UP

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Democratic%20Primaries/DemocraticPresidentialPrimary.htm

[Tellurian]

1. 2008 Democratic Presidential Primary

2008 Democratic Presidential Primary

Clinton Steady. Obama Down. Edwards Up.

March 26, 2007

New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) remains atop the field for the Democratic Presidential nomination as she has since the race began. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll finds Clinton with 37% support this week. That’s up two from a week ago. In fact, ever since Al Gore was dropped from the list of contenders, Clinton’s support has remained remarkably steady, ranging from 34% to 38% over a five week period.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. then, why have I yet to find a Hillary supporter anyplace on the street?

And I've been looking hard. Obama, (but I AM in ill in noise) Edwards, Richardson, but no one for Hill.

am I just lucky, or am I keeping better company than the pollsters?

[ccpup]

6. I've found a lot of Hillary supporters

here in NYC and out in Los Angeles. I also know my Dad, in the small town he lives in in Southwestern Washington State, has friends who are excited at the prospect of a Hillary Presidency. So, they ARE out there.

That having been said, I tend not to trust Polls whether they're giving me "good" news or "bad" news. I just vote for who I'm going to vote for and let the chips fall where they may.

[ElizabethDC]

9. I know a lot of Hillary supporters

both where I'm from (Florida) and where I go to school (DC).

[nickinSTL]

22. I agree...no one I know supports Clinton

Lots of Edwards and Obama supporters...and I'm currently a Kucinich supporter, but hoping Clark will get in the race.

[saracat]

7. I have yet to find anyone on my State Committtee who supports her.

Terry Mac was here with his book and people stood up and really went after her.They simply don't like her. I liked her years ago and no longer care for her.She has absolutely NO personality, what she does have is cold and couldn't win the general.There are a lot of other much more electable women out there.I wish they would run!

[ElizabethDC]

12. So you're not going to support her b/c of her personality? n/t

[still_one]

16. I am not going to support her because I don't trust her. She LIED about Iraq

Sorry to interject myself here, but that is my view. As of one year ago, McCain and Hillary were saying stay the course. Today, she says we should start to get out, but sees some U.S. troops will have to remain

Yes, Iraq IS a big issue with me, because the problems it has and will generate both in human toll and financially for years to come

[saracat]

18. I will support her if she is the nominee.And yes, She won't be my favorite

because of her personality.I don't like or trust her.I am sorry but she seems to act as though she deserves the presidency and she is very arrogant.I have met both Hillary and Bill and I like him and don't like her!I don't feel she genuinely care about people.I hope I am wrong.I wish another Democratic woman were running!

[ddeclue]

49. Sorry to bust your bubble but that is how most voters pick candidates

..not issues but how they personally feel about the candidate. If they have a bad personality they will most often lose. Ask Bob Dole for instance..


Doug D.

[Tellurian]

41. You will.. while you're on your sabbatical..

Hopefully, the Caribbean, somewhere devoid of politics..You will run into the average person/people who are just your normal people, living, having a great time...and in passing just ask them what they think?.. but no cheating, give Hillary a fair shot.. meaning no sour puss faces.. ;) When you come back, tell us True...

[wyldwolf]

54. I know three on my state comm. that support her.

[bullimiami]

2. i expect it will fluctuate quite a bit before were done.

[DFW]

4. 19 months before the election? Gimme a break!

Howard Dean was on the covers of Time and Newsweek at the end of 2003.

What cover was he on in December 2004?

[Tellurian]

5. Two weeks ago, everyone thought Obama was overtaking Hillary

for good...but as it turns out, it was just for a minute..

[Windy]

8. I want to know who answers their phone when there is an unrecognizable number?

I don't and I don't know of anyone else who does. How accurrate can those polls be? Is it only those people without caller ID?

I don't know a single person who is in favor of Hillary winning the primary.

Gee, the polls before the midterm were so accurate weren't they! "sarcasm"

[ChairmanAgnostic]

10. b i ngo b i ngo b i ngo and bingo was its name-o.

yup. although I have a buzzer that I use on "private" or unknown ones.

[ElizabethDC]

11. I think a lot of people do

first of all, plenty of people don't have Caller ID, but, second of all, plenty of people do answer the phone when it's an unrecognizeable number (I personally don't, but I know my parents sometimes do).

[Windy]

13. I don't know anyone who does.

I don't put much stock in telephone polls getting a true random sample of the population.

[ElizabethDC]

14. So you've asked everyone you know

whether or not they a) have caller ID and b) whether or not they answer the phone when it's an unrecognizable number? I find that hard to believe.

I agree that most people don't answer unrecognizable numbers, and I don't think the way polls are conducted is ideal, but then you'd have to do studies of "Do a higher percentage of Hillary supporters not screen their phone calls, etc.?" I mean, there's no perfect way to do it.

[still_one]

15. I look at it differently. I can see Obama voters voting for Edwards and vice versa

but I don't see either group jumping on board for Hillary

Since primaries are now being moved up we will find out sooner who will end up as the top two contenders, and I sense that if Hillary is leading, the remaining will consolodate their votes for one candidate, and thus the lead Hillary now seems to have, will disappear

[Learn2Swim]

32. I agree with that. n/t

[karynnj]

47. I agree with you

The polls are clearly not precise enough that the 2 point change for Hillary is significant. My guess is that in the last poll, Hillary's calculated percent was lower than the true percent, Obama's higher and Edward's lower.

This is the second poll where there was a large, but not statisically significant uptic for Edwards that I have seen. It still leaves him as a clear 3rd.

[ddeclue]

17. Another MEANINGLESS poll cited by Hillary's horn tooters...

The only polls that matter are STATE polls of LIKELY votes in EARLY primaries.

In reality, Edwards is doing much better and Hillary much worse than Rassmussen claims in this total waste of time and money that they call a poll.

Doug D.

[oasis]

31. Thank you for gracing us with your wisdom on these matters.

:eyes:

[ddeclue]

48. And thank you for gracing us with your sarcasm..

:eyes:

Doesn't change the fact that this is just another meaningless post by Hillary's horn tooters...

Doug D.

[BeyondGeography]

19. It has been a tough week for Obama, but that was going to happen anyway

First, Bill Clinton went after his antiwar credentials by taking his "I don't know how I would have voted" statement on IWR out of context (It was in response to a Tim Russert question that was phrased as follows: What made you so much smarter than them, Clinton, Edwards, Kerry. etc., on the war?). Obama stuck up for Hillary and Bill stuck it to Obama. And you wonder why so many of us don't like your candidate.

Then there have been a slew of gotcha-type stories about Obama's past and some minor discrepancies between what he said in Dreams of My Father and what his friends remember.

The Larry King interview was fine, but less than scintillating.

Finally, he was outperformed by Hillary and others at the LV health care forum.

We can safely say the "1984" ad flap wasn't helpful either.

Live and learn. I'm confident he'll bounce back with better weeks, gradually add more specifics to his stump speech and sharpen his positioning vis-a-vis other candidates. What I suspect he won't he won't do is go negative, pander, take money from lobbyists and compromise his principles for votes. If so, I and many others will stick with him to the end.

That said, your gleeful trumpeting of a March 2007 poll is absurd. Polls don't mean shit at this point; in fact they won't matter until a few hours before the Iowa caucuses, so you'd be advised to pace yourself.

[Tellurian]

27. You don't know the half of it.. or maybe you do..

I'm not about to start a thread on this, but someone might. There are RW groundswells out there right now, circling BHO
with single accusations they will eventually weave together, as they did with Kerry and Gore..It actually made me sick to read it because I know where they are going with this, I've seen it happen before.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3304.html

[BeyondGeography]

28. Oh, I've seen The Mighty Politico's piece

This too shall pass. The fact of the matter is people are deeply disenchanted with politics in this country and Obama has aligned himself with something very real here (no matter what the "insiders" say and do). Whether he has the inclination and/or the skills to leverage that energy for all it's worth is an open question.

[Tellurian]

35. Agreed...

for you're sake I hope he can overcome.. If not? Theres always next time for him. For US?
There is no next time. We have to get it right this last and final time. Our last bite at the apple!

[Nedsdag]

44. Let me get this straight.

Obama cannot be considered President of the United States because his book wasn't exactly "truthful?" There were advertisements for "skin lightening" creams in both Ebony and Jet Magazines during the 1960s and 1970s. Perhaps that was what he was talking about.

OK, so when Hillary told Sir Edmund Hillary, the first man to climb Mount Everest that she was named after him, only to find out she was already born when Sir Edmund made his trek up Mount Everest we should give her some slack? Plus, don't get me started on "I've always been a Yankee fan" when she lived in Chicago and rooted for the Chicago Cubs. Give me a break!

Joe Biden is running for President again yet everyone seems to have erased his lies and story stretching from 20 years ago. No, we should vote for him because he's "experienced." Whatever!

I haven't decided on who I should vote for in 2008 but my nostrils are still feeling the effects from my nose holding vote for Kerry. I don't want to go through that again.

[Tellurian]

45. You can always go to

the Lounge and sign up for an anger management class, if you're having problems coping.

:think:

[Nedsdag]

46. Sorry, I don't have anger management problems.

Talk to me after Fred Thompson thumps Hillary in the general election.

[Tellurian]

51. Fred Thompson won't be the nominee..

rinse and repeat..

[Nedsdag]

52. OK, two can play this game.

Hillary Clinton won't win the general election.

rinse and repeat.

[Tellurian]

53. Fred just called..

He said he's not running..not interested in the nomination.
my point- Your serve.

[Nedsdag]

56. From you lips to his ears?

Get used to it Junior.

I believe he will run and be a formidable challenger for any Democrat.

I guess the sand has clogged your ears and judgement after you buried your head in it for so long.

[Tellurian]

58. Trust me, my lips would never be anywhere within earshot of his cranial protuberances..

sure, who wouldn't run (away) with a gun held to their head? He may have a trump card or 2 up his sleeve.
We'll see just how smart Mr. Fred is when it comes to dealing with the neocons. I say he'll walk away, and leave Guili performing the 'Tiger jumping through Hoops of Fire Act' for the easily bemused and as Hillary's opponent.

Lemmesee, thats 2-love!

[PresidentObama]

20. This of course will go back and forth. But she currently is a strong frontrunner.

Over ten points ahead of the others, at least.

[ddeclue]

50. No she's not....

These polls are pointless and prove nothing.

The only polls that matter are state by state polls of LIKELY voters in states where there are EARLY primaries and can NOT include people who aren't running (i.e. Gore for the Dems): Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina.

http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/

March 23, 2007 - Presidential Preferences

Democrats TX AR IA NH

Biden 4% 2% 2% 2%
Clark 4% 8% 2% 1%
Clinton 34% 49% 34% 37%
Dodd 1% - 1% 1%
Edwards 11% 12% 33% 20%
Gravel - - - -
Kucinich - - 1% 1%
Obama 32% 16% 16% 23%
Richardson 4% 2% 1% 2%
Undecided 10% 11% 10% 12%

Point is in IA and NH, Clinton's lead is very small in IA (1% is meaningless) she is tied with Edwards there.

Meanwhile Edwards and Obama are within the M.O.E. for second in NH, and there are 10 to 12% undecided and plenty of "in the noise" candidates who will withdraw and then THEIR supporters will be back in circulation and looking for a new candidate for another 7 or 8% so this thing is hardly decided and these polls are not meaningful.

All this thread is about is that the OP is a Hillary horn tooter trying to claim victory a year before the primary. "Major campaign operations have not ended" Hillary - so get over it.

Doug D.
Orlando, FL

[Ninja Jordan]

21. Is there some sort of 'national primary' I don't know about?

Does anyone even CARE who leads a national poll at this point? Polls on the ground, in places like Iowa and Nevada, are what matters.

[PresidentObama]

23. You present a good point.

A very good one. Any recent poll results out of Iowa or Nevada, BTW? Is Edwards still leading in Iowa?

[BeyondGeography]

24. National, statewide, whatever...the data right now tells you nothing

absolutely nothing, about where we're going to wind up in the end. Where was John Kerry in the Iowa polls in December of 2003?

[Tellurian]

25. I never had any doubt Kerry would win..

and couldn't believe it when they called Bush the winner in 04'-

I always pick the winners!

[zulchzulu]

26. Another poll with margin of sampling error is +/-4 percentage points

That's 8% off either way. A poll with an MOE of 3% is when I look at it with any level of seriousness.

[skipos]

29. Too bad she still still underperforms other Dems in general election polls

Thompson 44% Clinton 43% CLINTON LOSES BY 1%
Thompson 37% Obama 49% OBAMA WINS BY 12%

Brownback (41%) Clinton (46%) CLINTON WINS BY 5%
Brownback (34%) Obama (49%) OBAMA WINS BY 15%

Gingrich (43%) Clinton (50%) CLINTON WINS BY 7%
Gingrich (38%) Obama (48%) OBAMA WINS BY 10%

Giuliani (49%) Clinton (41%) GIULIANI WINS BY 8%
Giuliani (46%) Obama (40%) GIULIANI WINS BY 6%

McCain (48%) Clinton (41%) MCCAIN WINS BY 7%
McCain (44%) Edwards (45%) EDWARDS WINS BY 1%
McCain (44%) Obama (44%) TIED

Her fav/unfav is 50%/48% Not much room to improve with that.
Obama's is 54%/36%.

[AshevilleGuy]

30. If Gore does not come in, she will be the nominee.

As if it were already written in stone (or set in concrete, if your prefer). The whole programme is moving forward according to schedule.

[Tellurian]

36. Yes, exactly how I see it..

Hillary is one of a kind. It's as if this has been her destiny since the day she was born.
She doesn't realize it yet, but she eclipsed Eleanor Roosevelt by a country mile.

Eleanor may have been her role model but Eleanor would have been in awe of what Hillary has been able to accomplish.
Let us give credit where credit is due.. She's married to the right Clinton, her best friend and protector.

[ShortnFiery]

33. I'd vote for Alfred E. Newman before HRC.

She's all for the corporations all of the time. The more people try and bully me, the more I dislike her and "her machine." :grr:

[ShortnFiery]

34. Double Post

Sorry :blush:

[TwilightGardener]

37. I like Hillary. I'm just afraid that not enough other people will come

general election time. That is my only objection to her.

[Tellurian]

39. They have built it..

They will come... for Mr & Mrs Big Dog..

Remember-- Peace and Prosperity for All?
It wasn't a dream. IT really was!

[Dr Fate]

55. Wrong- people will come in droves. Republicans will crawl over glass to vote against her.

n/t

[Hippo_Tron]

38. Hey Ed Muskie, Gary Hart, Paul Tsongas, and Howard Dean were all great Presidents

Oh wait...

[Tellurian]

40. Oh, I meant to tell you all... It's ok if you don't nominate my thread..

I'm used to it. Only the special ones get "lots" of nominations.. I'm happy with the 5th page.. :hi:

[Alamom]

43. Good Morning & thanks. #2

:hi:

[Forkboy]

57. Awww...you're special.

Here's a pity kick and rec,how's that?

[madfloridian]

42. She will be the nominee....we can just sit back and relax.

We won't even need to vote in the primary.

Anyone else notice that in 2003 there was no huge cry for the primaries to be moved up real early? None at all. Florida's was March 9, I never got to vote for Dean as he dropped out in February.

I did not hear a word here about moving up the primaries. Nada.

They would not even take a straw poll here because the ones they wanted to win would not have won.

But NOW there is this huge push to move up early. Why? Is someone's campaign pushing it?

We won't even need to turn out for the primary. The polls have her winning. I am so glad they don't skew polls in our country like some companies do in Venezuela and Bolivia and Ukraine, some American companies.

Will just sit back and relax until the general election.