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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:08 AM
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Earth-shattering prosecutor purge news from Tuesday's Washington Post
From Tuesday's Washington Post:
The White House suggested two years ago that the Justice Department fire all 93 U.S. attorneys, a proposal that eventually resulted in the dismissals of eight prosecutors last year, according to e-mails and internal documents that the administration will provide to Congress today.

The dismissals took place after President Bush told Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales that he had received complaints that some prosecutors had not energetically pursued voter-fraud investigations, according to White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.

Gonzales approved the idea of firing a smaller group of U.S. attorneys shortly after taking office in February 2005. The Gonzales aide in charge of the dismissals - his chief of staff, D. Kyle Sampson - resigned yesterday, officials said, after acknowledging that he did not tell Justice officials about the extent of his communications with the White House, leading them to provide incomplete information to Congress.

Lawmakers requested the documents as part of an investigation into whether the firings were politically motivated. While it is unclear whether the documents will answer Congress's questions, they show that the White House and other administration officials were more closely involved in the dismissals, and at a much earlier date, than they have previously acknowledged.
These "voter-fraud investigations", the article notes, refer to cases in which individuals who allegedly shouldn't have been able to voted. Meaning: Votes that helped Democrats. The partisan witch-hunting on behalf of the White House is far, far worse, though:
Administration officials have repeatedly portrayed the firings as a routine personnel matter, designed primarily to rid the department of a handful of poor performers.

But the documents and interviews indicate that the idea for the firings originated at least two years ago, when then-White House counsel Harriet E. Miers suggested to Sampson in February 2005 that all prosecutors be dismissed and replaced. Miers resigned this January.
The article notes, before we continue, that Alberto Gonzales rejected such a plan as "impractical and disruptive", as it would have caused a widespread disruption to the system. Continuing:
The documents show that Sampson sent an e-mail to Miers in March 2005 ranking all 93 U.S. attorneys. Strong performers "exhibited loyalty" to the administration; low performers were "weak U.S. attorneys who have been ineffectual managers and prosecutors, chafed against Administration initiatives, etc." A third group merited no opinion.
So the best U.S. attorneys were loyalists while the worst "chafed against Administration initiatives". Sounds to me like a political test that preferred blind loyalty to the Bush administration and its goals than to the law itself. This is machine politics at its worst, and something far, far beneath a third-rate local party structure, let alone the Justice Department. Justice Department. I can't be the only one recognizing the irony of that title. Nor can I be the only one thinking this has the potential to undo the entire upper echelon of the Bush administration.

As an aside, no wonder President Bush wanted an idiot like Harriet Miers for the U.S. Supreme Court. In fact, any elected officials worth their salt should confront each and every Bush judicial nominee from now on with her name, as it now appears she was truly a slap in the face of her profession. It would truly be fitting that the woman whose abrupt withdrawal from consideration for the nation's highest court caused a black eye for the administration again led to a black eye for the White House, this one far, far worse than a failed judicial nomination.
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:11 AM
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1. Well now this little scandal is beginning to grow legs
Let's keep feeding and watering it. It seems like WaPo and NYT are trying to out-do one another. It's about time the press woke up! Whoopee!
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:17 AM
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2. uh, it's not about the papers vying for attention/scooping.......let's focus
on the STORY....the REAL FACTUAL CHRONOLOGY....it's not a STORY, it's TRUE!
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:29 AM
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5. Oh, excuse me
I'm confused about your problem with my post. It's just my opinion. Or isn't that OK anymore?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:47 PM
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27. It's a Rockette.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:22 AM
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3. Do you get what this fucking means? Now I've realized it!
This is related to those caging lists! They wanted to go after fucking Democrats across the country, and that's how they were going to do it.

No wonder AG Gonzales is playing nice, this shit is bigger than Watergate, because now we're starting to get a picture of them using the US Attorney's office like the White House plumbers or maybe more like the ratfuckers (Don Sagretti.)
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:00 AM
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8. Sorry I don't know: What is a 'caging list'? n/t
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:52 AM
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14. Try this:
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job777 Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:45 AM
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13. he White House suggested two years ago that the Justice Department fire all 93 U.S. attorneys
I disagree, Clinton did the same thing and we scarcely noticed. No big deal.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:54 AM
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15. Clinton did what?
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 06:59 AM by MGKrebs
Asked for all US attorneys to be fired? That's not the issue. It is WHY.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:19 AM
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17. Clinton did it at the beginning of his term..
That is common practice, from what I've heard. Bush did it, too.

The difference now is that BushCo is/was doing this in the middle of the term, in numbers that have never historically occurred.

I think this is big. It really smells of using the justice department as political tools and operatives. Unfortunately, it seems that they appointed too many 'honest' lawyers at the start, who wouldn't take part in their witch hunts.

The most important question might be, what did the 85 US Attorneys that they didn't fire do?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:46 PM
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26. You're confusing two different things.
Yes, administrations appoint their own people. They have lists of excellent, worthy, accomplished, talented people willing to give their time to public service. They appoint these worthy people fully knowledgeable that there will be at least a modicum of gratitude for it. But the value is that the excellence of these people will shine on the administration and make its place in history glow as a golden age of government.

That's not what this is.

THIS is about firing those worthy people BECAUSE they did their jobs honestly.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:53 PM
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28. If Clinton had fired US attorneys in his 2nd term--up to his neck in "Monicagate"....
The echoes of outrage would still be ringing.

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:37 AM
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20. These caging lists (Greg Palast from last week):
Bush's New US Attorney a Criminal?



BBC Television had exposed 2004 voter attack scheme
by appointee Griffin, a Rove aide.
Black soldiers and the homeless targeted.
by Greg Palast

March 7, 2007.

There's only one thing worse than sacking an honest prosecutor. That's replacing an honest prosecutor with a criminal.

There was one big hoohah in Washington yesterday as House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers pulled down the pants on George Bush's firing of US Attorneys to expose a scheme to punish prosecutors who wouldn't bend to political pressure.

But the Committee missed a big one: Timothy Griffin, Karl Rove's assistant, the President's pick as US Attorney for the Eastern District of Arkansas. Griffin, according to BBC Television, was the hidden hand behind a scheme to wipe out the voting rights of 70,000 citizens prior to the 2004 election.

Key voters on Griffin's hit list: Black soldiers and homeless men and women. Nice guy, eh? Naughty or nice, however, is not the issue. Targeting voters where race is a factor is a felony crime under the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

-snip

http://www.gregpalast.com/

CHECK OUT ACTUAL LISTS AT SITE!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:41 PM
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25. Bingo.
A convenient investigation prior to every election.

Does this kind of crime have a name? I keep thinking "misprision of office" but I haven't a clue what that actually means. A name...and a penalty?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:23 AM
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4. W let the justices turn into politoco's
If the justices weren't right wing enough, they were fired.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:31 AM
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6. Isn't this the K street project.
No Dems etc.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:53 AM
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7. It's all shaking loose
And this thread needs another rec. :thumbsup:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:02 AM
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9. Yes, but it's more than just "irony" when you use DoJ's proper name, "The Department of Justice"...
...it's down right Orwellian.

This is a VERY big deal.

Just a quick bit of DU posting advice though, you might want to edit down the amount of the article you include in your post to the "4 paragraphs" that are stated in the posting rules. Otherwise, the moderators or Admins might lock this post (or delete the extra text for you). And if I were you, I'd either make your commentary Italic or put the actual article parts in those gray boxes, so that it's more clear what's what.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:37 AM
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10. This "voter fraud" issue was a crock to begin with
The real issue in 2000 and 2004, as we all know, was election fraud, carried out principally through a combination of voter disenfranchisement and tinkering with the electronic voting machines.

But a small number of Republican operatives were working very hard to make the issue seem to be about "voter fraud" instead. Right after both the 2000 and the 2004 elections, there was an intense effort by Republicans, drawing on a handful of anecdotal reports about fraudulently or inaccurately registered voters, to prove that "voter fraud" was a serious problem -- and one that primarily involved Democratic voters.

(As an example of how the right-wing echo machine works, see http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/election2k/pee-u.htm for a WorldNetDaily article from 2000 claiming voter fraud in Missouri, http://www.house.gov/akin/updates/20020312.html for a 2002 article by Rep. Todd Akin of Missouri on his and Kit Bond's efforts to bring the "voter fraud" issue front and center, and http://www.politixgroup.com/comm81.htm for an article by a former intern to Bond and Akin also carrying the Missouri claims along.)

None of the accusations got very far, but they were sufficient to muddy the waters -- and also to shove through voter identification laws that now provide a legal excuse to disenfranchise poor and minority voters all the more.

I had thought it was only people like Akin and Bond who were pushing the "voter fraud" issue. That may have been true after 2000, but this Post article makes it clear that in 2004, the White House itself was involved. And that means this business is far deeper and dirtier than even the Post is acknowledging. In 2004/05, the Bush gang was already lining things up to steal the 2006 and 2008 elections as well -- and that is what this is really about.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 09:13 AM
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16. A separate post about this would be a really good idea
That would be really helpful to explain it to people. It sounds like BushCo was concocting a nationwide scam and they wanted the US attorneys to carry it out for them?
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:30 PM
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23. Participate, perhaps
Not so much implement it in its entirety.

Please remember that Repugs calling attention to "voter fraud," takes some of the heat off them and the much wider voting machine fraud. Autorank posted in another thread that John Fund had actually written a BOOK on the horrors of voter fraud. This is SO not even an issue compared to the larger issues that it's laughable.

But this whole faux hysteria about voter fraud also is a fabulous way to get state legislatures to pass laws "cracking down" on voter fraud which have the effect of suppressing Dem votes. (Example: Georgia's law that required govt-issued photo IDs was found by its Supreme Court to have a disproportionately negative affect on poor and minorities and was struck down.)
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:32 AM
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18. I agree with Stephanie, this post deserves it's own thread. nt
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:22 PM
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22. There's a thread already going on the voter fraud angle
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:57 AM
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11. So this scandal is "Rove's Revenge" for these prosecutors screwing up THE math nt
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:36 PM
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24. No, no. They had nothing to do with THE math
THE math was simply overriden by the throngs of angry electorate on BOTH sides of the political spectrum. THE Math would have been safe and effective under certain circumstances. Here's a quote attributed to Karl Rove re the 2006 elections:

“Karl the other night said that a switch of 77,000 votes would have kept the House and a switch of 3000 votes would have kept the Senate.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x461782#461783

Please at least read the OP for a description of "switching."


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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:55 AM
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12. Well Scarriet just earned herself a seat before
Judiciary committee, this is REALLY getting interesting.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:34 AM
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19. EXCELLENT timeline at TPM:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:51 AM
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21. shades of the Nixon era Saturday night massacre
:banghead:
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