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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:53 PM
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Kerry campaign behavior appears opportunistic.
I have serious concerns regarding how the Democratic candidates are treating one another in this years Primaries. As noted below, by a post report on the Daily Kos:

I fear this back room dealing antics will be the demise of our party. We must not turn the other cheek. I'm already angry at *bush....I need my Party to treat one another with some level of respect. This is not acceptable to me. I am willing to speak-up in effort to focus on a "clean-up" within the Party.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/2/10/43630/8746

<snip>

Tonight was the Gertrude Stein Democratic Club Dinner. The group voted for their endorsement in the DC Caucus for this Saturday. While, yes, Dean supporters were the greatest collection (followed by Kucinich, as I understand), there was no clear majority, so the Club made no endorsement for the Caucus.

Note, no one got it, so there was no one getting any gain out of this.

Then, after the dinner was over, the big whopping 20 Kerry supporters snuck back in after everyone left. Then a crony on the Board used an obscure by-law to reconvene and they voted the endorsement to Kerry.



You can read the rest for yourself. It is more opinionated for this post purpose. I wish to encourage voters to recognize the negative behavior going on ....repeatedly. We just can't stick our heads into the sand when our Party behaves badly. We need to speak out for change and be more united if we are to survive.

I'm very discouraged...I was so excited about finding our Democratic nominee by the people.....not by deception or back room antics. They lost my vote.

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YouMustBeKiddingMe Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:54 PM
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1. This hearsay has already been locked at least twice
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:55 PM
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2. Let's lock it again!
.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:56 PM
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3. Your kidding.....I never saw it ......
I'd love to read the feedback......Do you have a link?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:58 PM
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6. here
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:59 PM
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7. Thank you.
:hi:
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:56 PM
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4. As I replied in the last thread concerning this "story"...
Don't believe everything you read.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 07:57 PM
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5. We shall find out when the delegates
are announced. Then we can formally revisit it.
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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 08:02 PM
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8. Do you think John Kerry is responsible for this or are you just barbecuing
for the scent of it? Why would you not vote for him because of this?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 08:07 PM
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9. I expect more repect for the process from all
the candidates. I have heard about many Kerry antics which were not from our less aggressive news media sources..... I'm disturbed by all the chatter. This behavior maybe the demise of our Party if it continues. We don't have multi-billion dollar companies or oil wells to back us up....We just have each other to keep up with the Constitution......We need to monitor negative activity.


I won't give any time or money with this stuff going on.....
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 08:10 PM
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10. Welcome to Kerry SOP
n/t
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 08:23 PM
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11. Dean supporter writes Kerry supporters didn't "sneak" back in
Alleged Dean supporter, that is, but I assume this report is no less reliable than the report originally posted.

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2004/2/10/43630/8746/35#35

<edit>

Then the defections began. Some folks who were solid Dean supporters said that, while their hearts were with Dean, their heads were with Kerry, and that they'd be casting their Stein club vote with Kerry. It was a tangible blow to the Dean folk in attendance (both club members and non-club observers), but a dose of the new reality.

Then the vote: 61 votes were cast, with 29 going to Kerry, 20 to Dean, 6 to Clark, 3 to Edwards, 2 to Kucinich, and 1 to Sharpton. Kerry failed to win the require 60 percent for endorsement, all was going as expected....

....until somebody cited a club by-law that stated that a second ballot be cast if no candidate in a single-candidate outcome race achieved a plurality, then a second ballot may be cast by motion. The debate started: people wanting to adjourn and go with a non-endorsement, people wanting to recess and pick up next week, people wanting the second vote now. Frustrated people left, many of them Dean supporters. The Kerry crowd stayed put, moving with passion for a second ballot. Some people brought up the fact that this by-law was not pointed out before the meeting; other club members pointed out that, as members, they should be familiar with the by-laws.

As a long-time Stein member said to me, "organizationally speaking, it was somewhat messy."

<edit>

The Dean folk, the Clark people and a couple of Stein exec board members tried to put off the vote, either by calling the meeting to recess or adjourning for the night. But the Kerry folk stood firm. They did not, as John mentioned "sneak back in," as the meeting had not officially ended. Some of the Dean-supporting Stein members did leave after the endorsement results were announced and the meeting began to disintegrate - probably more out of frustration that the meeting was already overly long.

more...

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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:28 PM
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12. Locking...
8. If you make a highly questionable and inflammatory factual assertion about a candidate, you must provide a link to a reputable source to back up your claim. Rumor-mongering is not allowed. Allegedly "innocent" questions which are actually an underhanded effort to spread rumors are not allowed. If you really need to know the answer to your question, try Google.

This is a dupe of a previously locked thread.

Thanks,

DU Moderator
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