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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:33 AM
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http://nymag.com/news/features/28517/

"On most issues, his spiel doesn’t sound that different from those of McCain and Romney. But there’s one exception. Over and over again, wherever he goes, America’s Mayor evokes 9/11. And over and over again, wherever he goes, people cheer. Whenever Rudy talks about anything other than the September 11 terror attacks, he’s just another Republican presidential hopeful with his particular set of strengths and weaknesses. When he talks about 9/11, he becomes something else: a national hero.

New Yorkers may find that hard to believe. Anyone who lived here at the time remembers the 9/10 Rudy: strong on crime and the economy, yes, but arrogant, bullying, and terrible on race and civil rights. And while it’s impossible not to respect what Giuliani did for the city on 9/11 and in the days afterward, New Yorkers have experienced an inevitable September 11 fatigue. The 9/11 story has been told so many times that the Rudy-as-hero narrative, however moving, has lost much of its power. Except for those who have a personal connection to the tragedy, people have generally moved on. Besides, it’s common knowledge that a pro-choice, pro-gun-control, pro-gay-rights, thrice-married Catholic northeastern Republican is unelectable, right?

The rest of America sees a far different Rudy. West of the Hudson, the 9/10 Rudy doesn’t exist and never did. For them, September 11 was never so much a real day as a distant televised drama. It has more symbolic meaning than actual meaning: It’s equal parts Pearl Harbor and resurrection. And guess who plays the role of national savior? Not George Bush. Not John McCain. Not Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.

Once the rest of the country sees Giuliani up close, the conventional New York wisdom once held, his campaign will surely fold. So far, exactly the opposite has happened. The more Rudy has put himself out there, the higher his numbers have climbed. Last week, a CBS poll showed Giuliani leading McCain by a whopping 21 points while a Quinnipiac survey found Giuliani running five points ahead of Hillary nationally, and dead even in blue states. "


The kool aid drinkers live in fantasy land. I guess Rudy is just part of it.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:36 AM
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1. I was reading a "question" posed at Yahoo Answers
by a freeper who was going on and on about Rudy. I smiled. If Guiliani is nominated, he's going to turn off a lot of people--and not gain any Dems, especially in NYC.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:41 AM
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2. Hero of 9/11? He held press conferences and tried to extend his...
term as mayor without getting elected.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:58 AM
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3. Indeed, I live here and...
I have no love lost for that control freak.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 10:50 AM
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4. As Calvin Trillin put it so well,
sometimes a paranoid control freak is exactly what's needed.

Yeah, he called Guiliani a paranoid control freak.
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