AOL News: Should Gore Run? (great pics) and petition

[catgirl]

http://news.aol.com/dailypulse/022707/_a/should-gore-run/20070227110209990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

[JNelson6563]

1. That was absolutely fabulous!

So glad I clicked on link. :toast:

Julie

[PresidentObama]

2. Just put that main pic as my computer background.

Thanks for the link :toast:

Interesting poll results. Should he run? It was at 51-49%

Obviously people like his chances over Hillary's.

Not reliable polling, nor is any polls right now, but I'll take it with the grain of salt it's worth.

God, I hope Clark and Gore get into this race :patriot:

[Apollo11]

3. Great photo, interesting poll

With 292,709 votes already cast, 51% are saying that Gore should run, but only 39% think he will.

I guess a lot of the people who don't want him to run are Republicans, and I don't blame them.

Maybe because 74% believe that Gore would have a better chance than Hillary of winning the election.


Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Read Rolling Stone magazine: WHY GORE SHOULD RUN -- AND HOW HE CAN WIN
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13248532/why_gore_should_run__and_how_he_can_win

Get ready for Al Gore's next book - The Assault on Reason - out in May!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600877.html

Get ready for Live Earth on 7/7/07: www.liveearth.org

Help Al Gore lobby Congress at www.algore.com

Sign the petition at www.algore.org

Also sign the petition at www.draftgore.com

:kick:

[catgirl]

4. An AOL poll from 2 days ago: 71% would like Gore to run

There are pages at the bottom with photos.

[RestoreGore]

5. So far 42% say his best role is as environmentalist

And I couldn't agree more. I say stay a free man, Mr. Gore! You can make great changes in this world from a post where you will not be strangled by beltway bs and where your passion for this will not be compromised. You have experience, vision, and now many more resources and outlets to do as YOU choose to exact positive political and economic policy on a global scale.

[catgirl]

6. An environmentalist american president...yes!!

He'll do so much as POTUS

[RestoreGore]

7. Again, the same soundbite with nothing to back it up n/t

[catgirl]

8. Back at you. You're one big sound bite.

By the way, I choose environmentalism as his biggest contribution, because
it is. I also think he can do incredible things in office that he can't do now.
He'll avoid the biggest hurtles as POTUS (politics) AND there will be an even
stronger deomocratic congress in 2008.

[RestoreGore]

9. But you never get specific

What biggest hurDles are you talking about, and how does a Democratic congress that can't even do anything now on it or much else going to to do it then? We can't wait until THEY are ready to do something about it, and if they ever do it isn't going to hhappen unless WE demand it and live it, and we aren't there yet on a massive scale. Hence Mr. Gore's grassroots movement that not many of you seem to give a damn about. So why can't you ever back your statements up rather than getting defensive? If you claim he can do more in the SAME corporate owned beltway that did NOTHING all the years he was in there already when compared to what he has already accomplished out here, then back it up.

[catgirl]

10. A few points here

1. He has gotten the word out. That was a huge hurtle. The biggest hurtles now
are getting strict laws enacted without the resistance from repugs (corporations).

2. Time to demand changes on a massive scale. WE have to do that. We can't expect
Gore to do everything. And things are already changing. Germany is now aggressively
looking at the global warming crisis, for instance, and is set to make huge changes
in policy. California is talking about banning light bulbs. We're going to see a lot of this.
We all need to work with our towns and cities on this.

3. He was the VP. Bill Clinton was essentially a lame duck for a portion of his term.

4. Gore supporters are environmentalists. Gore as president will reach over the line
with his message (already is sterting to). He'll blur the line in regards to global
warming.

5. I don't see anyone getting defensive to your attacks. Maybe disgusted, but not
defensive. I'm surprised that a writer for a green magazine would want anybody in
office other than Al Gore. Would you rather Hillary Clinton? Rudy Guiliani (yikes)?.

[RestoreGore]

19. I don't care about the next election now

And I'm tired of hearing about it. The presidency of this country is also not the be all end all it once was to me and the obsession with it imo has made people lazy by thinking all their problems will be solved with just one push of a lever, so that is all they have to do. There is a great vacuum in this country where it concerns citizen involvement and responsibility in the Democratic process, and to me the presidency is now nothing more than a figurehead position in a corporate conglomerate that controls our votes, and as of yet I see no reason for him to go back to that crap when he has the freedom to do as he chooses while focusing on this crisis and making strides globally while being a staesman that gets people to see THEIR role in all of this. If that disgusts you then don't read nor respond to my posts, because my opinion on that is not going to change until THIS SYSTEM changes, and that won't change without us working for it, which is exactly what he is doing now out here.

[Milo_Bloom]

13. Same note, same BS

Reality: Without congress/president NOTHING will get done. Period. No citizen can change regulations.

Your own supposed proof of congress being fairly ineffectual has shown how powerful the executive branch is in not only setting the agenda, but getting things done. DLC President Clinton didn't get things done, b/c he was corporate and business friendly.

The executive branch gets daily, directed, interactions with the press. The executive SETS THE MESSAGE and then it is up to congress to follow or not. Gore has never been in that position.

Whatever, you are so lost in denial it is almost sad at this point.

He's running, just get used to it.

[RestoreGore]

15. Mr. Gore believes citizens CAN do this

And that has been proven before in history going all the way back to how this natiton was birthed all the way up through the Women's Suffrage Movement tot he Civil Rights Movement. So perhaps you need to tell him your BS, because I am sure he would tell you otherwise as well. So sad how you spit on his Climate Project and all his other work here.

[Milo_Bloom]

17. Wrong again...

You must think Gore is an idiot.

Gore knowns that citizens can't DO it themselves. They need congressional action. All of the movements you speak of are ultimately enacted by CONGRESS and often with TONS OF HELP FROM THE PRESIDENT (Just ask about the civil rights movement and Kennedy!)

The President, as we have seen, has the ability to silence with even confusion, even a HUGE majority of the people. Susan B Anthony was arrested in what, 1870's? Women finally received the right to vote in 1920? Only 50 years. Wow, those citizens working on their own really got it done with the executive branch.

In the end, a private citizen can only bang the cage with a cup and cast a single vote. They may create a message, it may resonate over years and years and years. However, a President can set an agenda, can address hundreds of millions of people at a time. A President can get congress to move on things, even when they may not agree 100%. A president can also muddy the waters on what should be a clear issue... just look at how easy it is for bush to cast enough doubt on Global warming to allow congress not to act.

Do you really think Gore doesn't understand this simple fact?

Your river of denial is getting deeper and deeper.

[RestoreGore]

21. Then we don't really live in a Democracy

And since you obviously believe in a 'president' having all of the power instead of the people, what does that say about you? Congressional action on GLOBAL WARMING is not going to happen without citizen pressure and pressure from businesses being brought to bear on them. Perhaps you should go to http://www.algore.com and read what he is asking for... signatures from the people to bring with him next month to Congress. Don't dare then sit and pontificate to me that the people have no power to make change. It certainly doesn't bode well imo for what you stand for.

[RestoreGore]

16. Mr. Gore believes citizens are the MAIN ingredient to this

And I agree with him wholeheartedly, because I know history and I see as he does how toxic this political system is. So perhaps you can go peddle your BS to him so he can tell you the same thing and then maybe you would believe it. Citizen action and waking up to our moral obligations are EXACTLY what has brought about changes from above from the birth of this nation all the way through the Women's Suffrage Movement to the Civil Rights Movement. Such a shame you spit on his Climate Project and all of his work here just to satisfy your own delusions and personal grudges. Either that, or you are simply living in denial of your responsiblity for what is happening to this planet.

[Milo_Bloom]

20. All acts of congress

Everything mentioned is ultimately an act of congress.

The friendlier the congress is to the movement, the faster things have gotten done.

To suggest otherwise is just plain silly.

The President has the power to set the tone and the agenda in this country.

Despite overwhelming evidence to the contraty, this president has been able to cast enough doubt on Climate change to actually make the undebateable, debateable.

THAT is how much power rests in the president.

Luckily, Al Gore understands this, which is why he IS running for president.

The time to doubt this is long past. The facts are very clear. He IS running and he will announce when the time is right.

[RestoreGore]

22. Then why didn't he run in 2004?

Again, you are just blowing smoke and stating things as fact about his intentions that you have no facts to back up with. And Bush has not been able to stop progress on this. Twenty three states have already gone around him as well as hundreds of cities and more businesses every day are going green. You place too much power in the hands of one man, and frankly, that is very dangerous, and I know that is absolutely something Mr. Gore understands.

[Milo_Bloom]

23. Because he couldn't win in 2004

Which is why he announce in no uncertain terms in 2002 that he wasn't running AND contacted the draft gore movement to ask them to stop.

The country hadn't yet turned against bush in 2002 or even in 2003. The majority still thought Iraq wasn't so bad. Staging a Gore v Bush rematch was a fight he knew he couldn't win, especially in the new climate and he was smart enough to know that, so he stated in clear, uncertain terms that he wasn't running and took steps to stop those who were spending time and effort on his behalf, so they could better direct it towards other candidates.

I have given you facts, but you swim in a river of denial... you will learn.

[RestoreGore]

25. That's BS n/t

[Apollo11]

24. Because "It's the future, stupid!"*

Gore has said many times that Presidential campaigns should always be about the future.

That's why in 2000 he did not only talk about the achievements of the Clinton-Gore years (and was criticized for this by Carville and others).

That's why in 2002 he promised not to seek the nomination for 2004. Because he knew that the party, and more importantly the country did not have the need or appetite for a re-run of Bu$h v Gore.

If Gore had run again in 2004, the question of "who really won in 2000" would keep coming back and that would prevent a serious discussion about the future direction of the country (and the world).

* Let me clarify: I am not saying that anyone here is stupid. It's just a playful tribute to Carville's famous line from the Clinton-Gore War Room in 1992 "It's the economy, stupid!"

[RestoreGore]

26. Right. That's why so many here still say he should run NOW because of 2000

Like I stated above, BS.

[roguevalley]

11. done. :)

[iconocrastic]

12. Notice how he changed his hair style to mimic Ronald Reagan?

Even the wave is reminiscent.

[w4rma]

14. President Reagan did have good hair. I can complement him on that. (nt)

[otohara]

18. Impressive Numbers

Run Al Run pretty please