sue myrick (rat) was on the floor saying...

[katsy]

this war will last beyond our lifetimes and our children's and their children's lifetimes. So many republics keep saying this.

I don't want my children to be at war with Muslim countries. I want my children to live in peace, and with acceptance of diversity. And yet here these pukes are saying this war will last for generations.

Terrorism is and always has been a criminal matter to be dealt with by professionals in law enforcement and intelligence. Terrorists are not muslims by default in my mind. Politicians and wars have never eliminated terrorism and never will.

What compels these republics to declare generational wars against Islam. Because that is, in fact and deed, what they are doing.

[LSparkle]

1. Perpetual war for perpetual peace ...

So Republickers can reap perpetual profits.

They don't know how to live without an enemy.

[katsy]

4. What kind of organisms live just to seek out new enemies?

Never mind. Your first sentence answered my question. The amoral, sociopathic greedy.

[MasonJar]

2. Didn't you know..War is Peace?

[katsy]

3. Must go drink the kool-aid.

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[KKKarl is an idiot]

5. War all the time

This is the hidden motto of the republicans. We started the war. We supported Israel against the Arabs. We supported one Arab leader against another so we could maximize profits. We can end the war by continuously voting out the war mongers.

[Ezlivin]

6. We've always been at war with Eastasia

I fear that future generations will completely miss the point of Orwell's "1984". To them they will think it is the way things are supposed to be run.

Since about that time, war had been literally continuous, though strictly speaking it had not always been the same war. For several months during his childhood there had been confused street fighting in London itself, some of which he remembered vividly. But to trace out the history of the whole period, to say who was fighting whom at any given moment, would have been utterly impossible, since no written record, and no spoken word, ever made mention of any other alignment than the existing one. At this moment, for example, in 1984 (if it was 1984), Oceania was at war with Eurasia and in alliance with Eastasia. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible. (Ch. 3, "1984")

[patrice]

7. Fundamentalist Islam is the psychological reciprocal of Fundamentalist Christianity.

What is going is as inevitable as a coin has two sides. It's impossible to have anything that has only one dimension. You know this: can't have white without black; no pleasure without pain; good cannot exist without bad.

Economic and geo-political factors brought Evangelical Fundie Christianity into conflict with Wahabist Islam at this point in our lives. The rest of us are caught in between.

Have you ever heard of self-fulfilling prophecy? If I assume you are an enemy and, hence, treat you as an enemy, you will react to being treated as an enemy in a manner that is consistent with how you are being treated, thus confirming for me my assumptions about you and reinforcing my behavior toward you as an enemy, which in turn reinforces your reactions to how you are being treated and my reaction to your reaction ad infinitum.

No sane person believes that when people are treated as enemies, they react to that as though they are being treated in a friendly or at least neutral manner. But then Republicans aren't sane, because they are not in touch with the lives and experiences of real people. They literally live in paranoia land.

Death and destruction embolden and motivate those who intend to become religious martyrs or tribal heroes. Strategic alternatives are disincentives to them, because they don't fit their assumptions about themselves or others.

[gratuitous]

8. It's almost like they want more dead soldiers

But of course that can't be the case, because after all, it's what they accuse those of us advocating the withdrawal of the troops to be in favor of. And we know the Repressive Right would never accuse someone else of doing what they're doing. So never mind. I don't know what I'm talking about.

[GreenInNC]

9. She is my representative

and she is a nutcase. Mrs. Family Values had an affair with her next door neighbor before she got into politics and broke up two families.

[Mz Pip]

10. Wars end

eventually. With or without intervention. THere comes a time when the people involved just get sick of it. We've already gotten sick of Iraq and eventually the Sunnis and Shi'as will as well. The revenge/retribution just won't be worth it anymore.

THere will always be the die hard crackpots to deal with but the societies at large will tire of the seemingly endless violence and slowly people will start talking to each other.

Our presence isn't helping matters and it may take longer than we all would like, but it will happen.

Mz Pip
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