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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:59 PM
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Conyers on impeachment, Hillary
By George Bennett | Monday, February 5, 2007, 12:13 PM

One of President Bush’s most ardent and newly powerful congressional critics stuck to the Democratic leadership line and said he won’t pursue impeachment of the president. But House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., told about 25 local Democratic and labor activists in West Palm Beach this morning that he plans to conduct plenty of investigative hearings on administration policies.

“It’s not impeachment, because he (Bush) is history already. But we do want oversight of all the things we’ve done,” said Conyers, who made two morning appearances in Palm Beach County after attending the Super Bowl in Miami on Sunday.

more: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/floridapolitics/entries/2007/02/05/conyers_on_impeachment_hillary.html?cxntfid=blogs_q_the_florida_politics_blog
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:04 PM
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1. in other words, he needs someone to march in lockstep with his POV
Good luck with that, Rep. Conyers.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:23 PM
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5. Honorable Congressman: 2004: 6.15% Kerry-Bush vote-switch found in Ohio
Indeed. They are the People's Representatives.

Discussion here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=466044&mesg_id=466044

Defining the vote outcome probabilities of wrong-precinct voting has revealed, in a sample of 166,953 votes (1/34th of the Ohio vote), the Kerry-Bush margin changes 6.15% when the population is sorted by probable outcomes of wrong-precinct voting.

The Kerry to Bush 6.15% vote-switch differential is seen when the large sample is sorted by probability a Kerry wrong-precinct vote counts for Bush. When the same large voter sample is sorted by the probability Kerry votes count for third-party candidates, Kerry votes are instead equal in both subsets.

Read the revised article with graphs of new findings:

The 2004 Ohio Presidential Election: Cuyahoga County Analysis
How Kerry Votes Were Switched to Bush Votes

http://jqjacobs.net/politics/ohio.html



A small spreadsheet too:

http://jqjacobs.net/politics/xls/cuyahoga_t_tests.xls
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:26 PM
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6. Did you just come out against the war also, wyldwolf?
Or have you declared yet on that issue?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:32 PM
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7. never been for the war. But thanks for asking
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:16 PM
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9. Glad to hear we both march in lockstep to
Conyer's point of view!

:toast:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:11 PM
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11. actually, we don't
Because he was using that one issue as the sole criteria for his support. I don't.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:46 PM
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12. I meant on that point of view, ie the war. i would doubt that anybody in the
world holds the same POV on every issue imaginable.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 07:01 PM
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13. he used the war as the sole basis of his support
After speaking glowingly of other candidate... but ... asked about Clinton later, Conyers said she and her semiretired hubby are friends of his, but “She’s just come out against the war. This is a recent change for her…I need somebody that I’m not always trying to get to come over to my point of view.”
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 07:09 PM
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14. It sounds as if the war is but one of more issues that Rep. Conyers and Sen. Clinton
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 07:10 PM by John Q. Citizen
don't see eye to eye on.

The "always" word implies that.

However my post to you was about the war.

That we are in lockstep with Conyers POV {about the war}
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:05 PM
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2. I love your sig pic. Something we should all remember.
What's that big sucking sound I hear? Do you hear it?
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:06 PM
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3. Will someone please tell Mr Conyers
That if he doesn't impeach, Tehran will be history
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DAMANgoldberg Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:19 PM
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4. It won't matter
Tehran will be hit anyway. I'm not quite sure that it will be history. Impeachement would be nice, but it's meaningless unless you get a conviction and remove him from office.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 07:47 AM
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15. You are assuming that the US is the only country wanting to stop Iran
from developing nuclear weapons.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:40 PM
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8. Question: If there is substantial enough evidence that the President broke the law...
Say for example he "accidently" plows a caterpillar into an unsuspecting journalist and kills them, what happens then? Do the FBI knock on the door of the White House and drag him out in handcuffs?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:49 AM
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16. They would if he were indicted
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:21 PM
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10. Apparently, holding the President responsible for criminal misconduct is history as well.
I'm seriously doubting the Republicans will drum Bush out of office as they did Nixon. Unlike Dick, he'll get to serve out his term and make a grand exit, propped up by faux news reporting, while soldiers are still dying in his dirty, illegal war(s). But, as Nixon did, he'll retire unfettered by any legal issues... perhaps to Paraguay without a care in the world for all the blood on his hands. Eventually he'll shuffle off this mortal coil and be lionized after the fact, everything forgiven and mostly forgotten, and every spokesmodel in the land will mouth sickening platitudes about a healed nation.

Heckuva job, Dems.
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