I Am Getting REALLY Angry!

[trayfoot]

I have been doing everything I know how to do to encourage Al Gore to run for President in 2008. I do not see anything that makes me think he will run. That makes me extremely angry! Gore is the best that we (Dems) have and he refuses to step up to the plate and do a CIVIC DUTY! I guess I am TOTALLY wrong about Gore - he does NOT care about this country!

[AtomicKitten]

1. shut up

Gore ... does NOT care about this country!

that's just nonsense

[trayfoot]

2. NO....it is NOT nonsense!

eom

[Bullet1987]

5. As of right now...

...Any notion that Gore is running is wishful thinking at best.

[PresidentObama]

3. Yes he does care about our country.

He might be like John Kerry. Have a different agenda on his mind bigger then running for President again. Probably doesn't want to put himself out there again only to get attacked by the media and the RW unfairly.

[ccpup]

4. with that kind of logic,

perhaps YOU -- if you care about this country -- should step in the ring. Hate to break it to ya, but Al don't owe you nothin'. You WANTING him to do it is not enough.

[ruggerson]

6. Why do you think

that Al Gore has to do anything, because you want him to?

[Ian David]

38. Al Gore talks to him through the radio, in the static. n/t

[eyesroll]

7. Yes! Because the best thing for this country is to elect a President who doesn't want the job!

Absolutely! :bounce: :bounce:

[illinoisprogressive]

8. Gore has spent his life as a public servant and now is his time for himself

After years of being a public servant and doing his best, he now is doing what he loves. He is working for global warming change and is doing the work for the world.
I don't mean to sound mean or anything but, I think it kinda selfish because you want him to run that he should. He is probably happier now. If he doesn't want to it should be his choice. Besides, if his heart isn't not there he would not do a good job.
My advise is to look for someone else who you think might do well and support that person with the caveat that if he does run you can always support him. Take 2 or 3 you think you might like and check their records, their positions, ect.
don't be angry because he has more than earned the right to be happy.

[trayfoot]

12. Al has a right to be happy

but he also has an obligation to do what he can to right the wrongs our nation has endured. Sorry......I believe he DOES have an obligation to do whatever he can to right the wrongs of the past 6 years. He asked us to support him in 2000. He said he would be back in 2004 - he wasn't. Now........what is his excuse for 2008?

I am a diehard dem - and I am PISSED to the max!

[DaveinMD]

41. no one

and I mean no one has obligation to run for President put themselves and their family through that meat grinder.

[MonkeyFunk]

9. how childish

nobody owes YOU a presidential run.

[scarletwoman]

10. Are you stamping your little foot and pouting? (nt)

[Downtown Hound]

11. That is the funniest post I have read in a long time

I don't think you meant it to be, but it is!

:toast:

[Ian David]

39. I wondered about that, too. n/t

[OwnedByFerrets]

13. I feel sorry

for whoever inherits the fucking mess that this treasonous bastard has left his successor.

[crispini]

14. Oh, honestly, what are you, twelve years old?

He's a grown man, he already did a lot for this country, he gets to do what he wants. If you want to encourage him to run, that's great (I am) but it doesn't mean you get to throw a temper tantrum when he doesn't do what YOU want. Why don't you just hold your breath until you turn blue, that sounds about right for your attitude?

[trayfoot]

20. That's Bullshit, IMO

I am sick and tired of hearing about how GREAT Gore is on the environment. Wonderful! Now... DO something for the country that he says he is so worried about! No, i don't feel in the least like a juvenile for wanting this, nor do I feel like I am "leaning" too hard on Gore! There are a LOT of Dems and Independents who will not vote for Hillary or Obama - and the Dems need to take that into consideration!

[crispini]

22. Yeah, you really have no idea how much he has already done, do you?

Sheeeeit. He's nominated for a Nobel Prize for his work, but noooo, he can't do enough for YOOOOOOU, so you're just going to Have A Big Ol' Temper Tantrum.

I've revised my opinion. You're about two, I think. "Al Gore should run 'cuz I waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant him too!" :cry:

Hang on, let me help you out here....

[Toots]

42. A Democrat that will not vote for the Democratic Candidate is not a Democrat

Get over yourself....If Al were to become President he would be tied up with so many issues he could not concentrate on the one that has dire consequences for the world. He is in position now to make great change occur. He is respected and listened to. As President he would lose that. Use that lump on your shoulders for more than a hat-rack okay....

[Labors of Hercules]

50. woah... are you saying that as President he wouldn't be in as good a position as he is now?

Cause that just don't make much sense.

Ending this f*%@ing war and focusing the Nation's agenda on whatever he wants... nope, that's nowhere near as good as... um... What exactly is it he's doing now that everybody but the Repugs and the President are swayed on Global Warming?... hmmm... :sarcasm:

[Clarkie1]

15. I think Gore cares about not just this country but the whole planet, actually.

It occurs to me he might believe his efforts can be more effective if he is not cast in the role of a partisan politician. Certainly it is everyone's interest that global warming NOT be seen as a partisan issue.

Of course, in the role of President he would have great power to advance his agenda, but there are pros and cons to everything.

Perhaps Gore has decided he can be a stonger advocate by staying on the outside, I don't know.

Connection: Clark has made statements recently to the effect of he doesn't want partisanship and Presidential politics coloring the policy recommendations he is making, so I think Clark has been torn too. He said something not to long ago to the effect of something like "Everyone says you're saying what you're saying because you're running for President." I'm still hoping ultimately he will run.

[Kixel]

62. Good point!

Some people can see past the politics. Al is passionate about the environment, maybe he can see doing more by focusing on only the environment, rather than all the other things a President would have to work.

I must admit, I think Clark would be really valuable in the Presidential or VP spot. Here's to hoping!

[Algorem]

16. he's a bad seed.

[Pirate Smile]

29. LOL

[nevergiveup]

17. Hell, he is leading the way

to save the planet....to say he doesn't care about this country is is is is, I can't think of the correct word but your attitude sucks.

[jen4clark]

18. Learn patience, trayfoot.

Al Gore can enter the race whenever he pleases. He has better things to do now. If he wants to run, he can easily wait until Oct. or Nov. it matters not.

[Connie_Corleone]

19. LOL!! You funny!

[trayfoot]

23. And.....

I find those of you who choose to make fun of a Red State Democrat to be ignorant beyond belief! But, if that is your "deal", so be it! I, frankly, think you are being extremely naive!

[Downtown Hound]

25. Hahahahahahahahahaha!

Stop it! You're killing me!


:spray: :spray: :spray:



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Connie_Corleone]

27. Help! I'm from a red state and I'm making fun of myself! LOL!!

WOOOO!! Don't stop! You're cracking me up! More please!

Okay, okay. I'll talk to Gore. I'll make him an offer he can't refuse.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Clark2008]

54. Honey - I'm from a red state, too, Gore's state of Tennesse, as

a matter of fact. And I was not going to comment on this thread until this post.

I work very hard to relieve us blue voters in red states from the scorn of blue staters on this board and you're not helping.

Al Gore owes me nothing. He owes you nothing. Not anymore. He's done far more in his lifetime to help me, you and other red staters (blue and red voters) than anyone else on the planet. If he feels his time in politics is over, then it's over and he can walk away and still feel proud, given what he's done to help this world... and continues to do.

Your hissy fit is undeserving such a target.

[silverweb]

21. Wow.

What a childish, petulant snit.

Gore's lifelong dedication to helping solve the dire problems our entire planet faces doesn't even enter your little head, does it?

I'm guessing he thinks he may be able to accomplish more of saving the whole damn world apart from politics, but I'll bet you didn't even consider that.

Yet you think he "owes" a "civic duty" determined by your narrow viewpoint.

Suggestion: Grow the fuck up.

[susanna]

24. You know, he was right then, and he's right now.

If he chooses to run, fine, but if he does not, I sure do not blame him. America made a joke out of his last run. He has the right to refuse the ungrateful idiots that some in this country were. He cares about this country, of that I am certain.

I think you should let it go and let him choose for himself. Just saying.

[Imagevision]

26. Gore'as doing a fine job, if he doesn't want to run/ sobeit!!

[trayfoot]

28. I find the responses

on this thread totally ludicrous! Oh well, guess I had too high an opinion of dem underground.

[Bobbieo]

30. Hang in there, junior You ain't seen nothing, yet!!!.

[shimmergal]

31. Trayfoot, since everybody on this thread

except you asks you to rethink your attitude, maybe you could possibly be wrong?

What's to be gained by cherishing anger at Al Gore if he doesn't want to run? Can't you focus that impassioned rage on some people who might actually DESERVE it?

Just saying . . . a word to the wise . . .

[Downtown Hound]

34. I wouldn't worry about it

This whole thread reeks of an attempt to stir up shit on DU. I'm actually hoping that's what it is, because I have a hard time accepting that people are this self-centered.

[anitar1]

36. Tjhanks. I've been all over this site for hours and

have seen many lowcount posts that are rather strange. Methinks they are out in force . DU is getting wise to it. No one is biting tonight.

[shimmergal]

32. Trayfoot, since everybody on this thread

except you asks you to rethink your attitude, maybe you could possibly be wrong?

What's to be gained by cherishing anger at Al Gore if he doesn't want to run? Can't you focus that impassioned rage on some people who might actually DESERVE it?

Just saying . . . a word to the wise . . .

[shimmergal]

33. Oops, sorry--

I didn't intend to repeat my last post. I'm a bit tech-challenged!

[Ian David]

40. I give it ten days until Al Gore gets a restraining order against Trayfoot. n/t

[cleveramerican]

35. the nobel committee is taking up all his time

[Ian David]

37. No, he just hates YOU, personally. He'll run as soon as he thinks YOU have lost interest. n/t

[cooolandrew]

43. From this angle he appears to be doing more for climate change on the outside really

[Adelante]

44. "Gore - he does NOT care about this country!"

Oh. My. Fucking. God. :crazy:

[Apollo11]

45. Gore is keeping his options open

There is no hurry for Gore to enter the race for 2008. He is doing a great job raising public awareness about the climate crisis (he spoke to 10 000 people in Boise 2 weeks ago!). Hopefully he might even get on stage at the Oscar ceremony!

Gore is also busy working on his next book - The Assault on Reason - to be published in May. The theme of this book - why we need better decision-making in government - is very timely in relation to next year's Presidential election (whether he runs or not).

Depending on how things pan out, and the reaction to his book, Gore can consider his situation over the summer and announce his decision (or if you prefer - "change his mind") sometime in the fall.

Don't forget that Bill Clinton did not start his campaign until October 1991 (and went on to win the Presidency 13 months later). But Al Gore already has nationwide respect and name recognition that other wannabees can only wish for!

Al Gore is without a doubt the best qualified person for the job, in terms of his experience, knowledge, intelligence and judgement. And by the way - he is younger than Hillary, Clark, McCain and Guiliani! :)

Gore can afford to wait a while. He could announce his decision on November 4th - 12 months out from the election. He would still have ten weeks to campaign before the first primaries - and a very good chance of winning the nomination.

Unless and until Gore endorses another candidate, we have to assume that he is keeping his options open. So it is too soon for those of us who prefer Gore to switch our allegiance.

Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :)

Read Rolling Stone magazine: WHY GORE SHOULD RUN -- AND HOW HE CAN WIN
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13248532/why_gore_should_run__and_how_he_can_win

Get ready for Al Gore's next book - The Assault on Reason - out in May!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600877.html

Visit the following pro-Gore websites:
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com - Sign the petition!
www.draftgore2008.org
www.patriotsforgore.com

:kick:

[PhilipShore]

46. The Election of 2008: Al Gore Defeats Jeb Bush

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

47. There is one scenario where that could happen

Cheney steps down and the audacious Bush appoints his brother. Jeb would accept, because as he himself has acknowledged, he has no political future thanks to his brother. This could be W's way of making it up to him and giving him a springboard to his own Presidency.

We have to secure the vote now. The people who pulled strings to get W into office and then keep him there will pull the same strings for Jebbie.

[trayfoot]

48. I must say that I am surprised.....

that the original post has gathered so many negative comments. I believe strongly that Gore should be the next President because of his experience, intelligence, gravitas, common sense, and passion. Our nation is in the toilet - thanks to shrub and the PNAC crowd. Gore can help us out - AND, use the bully pulpit for advancing his work on global warming. I cannot understand why he would not step to the plate. Criticize me if you must - it really makes no difference to me. As a hard worker for WEBB (and we DID succeed), I want the BEST dem candidate that is possible. The mess this nation is in will take a great mind to repair it.

[crispini]

52. I agree with everything you wrote in THIS post,

but your original post was one of the most arrogant self-centered things I've ever read on DU. "I've been working SO HARD TO get Mr. Gore to run and he won't run to OBLIGE MEEEEE so he's a BAAAAAAAAD MAN!" That's exactly how you came off.

[Terri S]

49. interesting

Why would you want someone for president so much if you don't even respect his ability to make judgements on how he can best serve his country? As if being president is the only or even the best way to do that. As if you you were qualified in any possible way to make that judgement for him. What a pathetically infantile and yet arrogant tirade -- sounds like another infantile, arrogant person I can think of that insists 'you're either with me or against me' cause I know best and I'm the decider, while having no conception of realities outside their own little world.

I understand being disappointed, because we all know what a different world this could have been if he had rightfully become the president he was elected to be. To go from there to saying he does not care about the country is absurd, ignorant of realiy, and incredibly disrespectful to a man who has done extraordinary things for this country and the world, and who will continue to do so in any capacity he chooses.

[outofbounds]

51. It doesn't matter

to me what Mr. Gore does. He has done more for this country, world than you can imagine trayfoot. He was fouled in the 2000 election. Imagine that if you will, losing the presidency by a court decision. Imagine having to deal with all the remarks and lies this man has had thrust upon him. But did he quit doing things to help the nation that poked and ridiculed him? No. Do you remember him standing with gavel having to quieten senators who opposed the outcome of that election. Reps standing and shouting in protest over Mr Gore pounding the gavel saying "order order order on the floor". I remember thinking, what a valiant, strong, remarkable man this is. What a loss for our country to have to be lead by a man that doesn't have half the character or strength that Mr. Gore has. Let alone integrity.
Now Mr. Gore has taken this defeat which would devastate anyone and turned it into a passion to bring attention to the world about an issue that truly effect each and every one of us. Global Warming. How much has he been ridiculed about this? AL Gore is a true hero. I will support him in anything he does, and ask him for nothing. We are fortunate to have this man in our world.

Should Mr. Gore decide to run I'll be elated, if he doesn't I'll understand. Either way this man has served us in remarkable ways, how dare you demand anything more of him.

[Apollo11]

53. point of fact

"Do you remember him standing with gavel having to quieten senators who opposed the outcome of that election."

In January 2001, some Members of the Black Caucus in the House of Representatives did try to speak out against accepting the slate of electors from Florida. No Democratic Senator spoke out. If one had stood up, there would have been a debate. Although it's true that Al Gore did not ask Senate Democrats to speak out, because he knew that the Republicans had the votes they needed in both houses of Congress, so it would have been an unwinnable fight that would create a lot of bitterness. From Al Gore's perspective - his decision to accept the SCOTUS ruling on December 13th 2000 was his final word on that election.

Senator Barbara Boxer says she regrets not standing up at that time, and 4 years later she did stand up which meant that both houses of Congress had to debate the "irregularities" in Ohio in November 2004. This helped to raise the profile of "electoral integrity" issues nationwide, although we are still a long way from ensuring clean and fair elections.

[Bake]

55. I too hope Al will run. We need him.

We, the Dems, need him because he'd be the strongest candidate by far. We, the United States of America, need him because things are so f'ed up by the bushies that a strong leader/statesman is called for. Frankly, I think he could do more to advance the cause of combating climate change as President than in any other role, but that's not my judgment to make; it's his.

And I hope he'll decide to run. I think that if he announced, he'd instantly be the front-runner for the nomination AND the general election.

But if he doesn't, then I still repsect that. He doesn't owe me anything.

Bake

[Meshuga]

56. Be patient!

He will not give any hints in favor of running until he announces later in the game.

[lojasmo]

57. I hope he runs, but it is up to him. EOM

[wyldwolf]

58. Is the Earth obstructing your view of Venus again?

[Sparkly]

59. I have to believe this is satire.

No, really. I mean I HAVE to believe this is satire...

(I find myself saying that about a lot of posts lately!) :rofl:

[johnlal]

60. He had his shot.

He ran for president. He did a great job. He got a HUGE number of votes. And he lost. If he ran again, he would have to go through the gruelling ordeal again, and he might still lose. He's not the only game in town. There are plenty of qualified candidates. He has sacrificed a lot for this country. Give it a rest.

[BoneDaddy]

61. WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

I want what I want.