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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:27 AM
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Newsweek: Webb wrote his own speech, tore up the one given by leadership.
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 12:40 AM by madfloridian
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16779514/site/newsweek/

Webb is seen as a moderate or even conservative Democrat, but this was a populist speech that quoted Andrew Jackson, founder of the Democratic Party and champion of the common man. The speech represented a return to the tough-minded liberalism of Scoop Jackson and Hubert Humphrey, but by quoting Republicans Teddy Roosevelt (on "improper corporate influence") and Dwight D. Eisenhower (on ending the Korean War), he reinforced the argument that President Bush had taken the GOP away from its roots.

Webb was given a speech to read by the Democratic leadership. He threw it out and wrote his own. As a well-regarded novelist, Webb has a sense of narrative and human drama. He apparently felt that the boots his son wore in Iraq, which he used to great effect during his successful Senate campaign against Sen. George Allen, might be a bit hokey. So instead, he showed a picture of his father during the Berlin airlift. He then went on to describe taking the picture to bed every night and his family's long record of military service.


It might explain an odd exchange between Blitzer and Howard Dean today. At least it seemed odd to me.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0701/23/sitroom.02.html

BLITZER: Have you been able to come up with a consensus that all Democrats will be able to accept in Senator Webb's response tonight?

DEAN: A consensus about what?


BLITZER: About the response on Iraq, for example, that what he lays out...

DEAN: Oh, sure.

BLITZER: ... in his Democratic response to what the president will say in his speech is something that you and the different wings of the Democratic Party can all accept?

DEAN: Well, it's hard to agree ahead of time when you haven't seen the script, so I don't know what Jim is going to say...

BLITZER: You haven't seen what his agenda --

DEAN: ... you know -- no. We don't -- we don't control our members like that. You know, I think Jim is a star in the Democratic Party. He's -- he certainly knows what he's talking about when it comes to warfare, as a former Defense Department higher-up. And he's going to be a great spokesman for the Democratic Party, as he was during the campaign.

What he's going to say, in general, is we ought to be looking to get out of Iraq and not adding more troops and escalating the war. I'm sure he's going to say that. What specifics he gives, I don't have any advance knowledge of.


And I swear I posted this in another thread on this a few minutes ago. I now can't find it. My browser is screwed up tonight. I think I need to uninstall something I just installed. :shrug:

It also makes one wonder why a belated request went out from the DNC to send our thoughts to Webb about the speech. That might be reaching, though. It was such a late request.

I was so proud of Webb tonight, I had tears in my eyes.



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:31 AM
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1. I looked for my post in the other thread in My DU, my posts.
I can't get to them right now. Is anyone else having trouble? I don't want the person who posted first to think I was trying to take it over, but people on the thread were asking for verification. I found it.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:32 AM
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2. I would hope so. Webb is a professional writer and journalist. He knows
how to cut to the chase and not let words get hung up. and what to highlight.
He is one of the few real writers in congress and he should use those gifts as they are more powerful.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:33 AM
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3. He was absolutely powerful and magnificent tonight.
He made me proud he was part of my party.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:44 AM
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17. Absolutely ...
TOTALLY what the democratic party needs ... A undeniably strong person on defense with a VERY balanced philosophical outlook ... Guys like Webb can attract those "middle america" kind of people who were bamboozled into the "conservative" movement ...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:37 AM
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4. Quick take a look at the picture caption before it is fixed. CNN
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 12:39 AM by madfloridian
Virginia Sen. Jim Webb, whose son is serving in Vietnam, beat Republican George Allen in November's elections.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/23/sotu.webb.transcript/index.html

:rofl:

And if someone see the other thread about this, please post the Newsweek source there. I am having all kinds of DU problems tonight, just found I was at other blogs as well.
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:43 AM
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6. nice find, still there...
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:32 AM
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12. CNN, make that "Iraq-Nam" and you've got it about right ! nt
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:41 AM
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5. It was an excellent speeck and a presented a great image for the party.
Well it certainly worked better than the way the Democrats have done it in the past.

Kudos to those party leaders who had the guts to take a shot in the dark instead of trotting out the same old worn out platitudes.

I'm sure they were more than a little nervous.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:50 AM
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7. He has always been able to write, but he never was that hot a speaker. That said, he nailed it
tonight--his delivery was spot-on.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:54 AM
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8. Uh, haven't we been told many times, Dean is not the Democratic leadership?
He's the head of the party, but does not lead it?

So where does "the leadership" = Howard Dean here anyway?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:08 AM
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9. That is my point, really.
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 01:10 AM by madfloridian
Maybe I did not make it very well.

The more they tell him he is not part of the leadership, the more it becomes true that he really is.

But we knew that. And he is making a point to the ones who consider themselves the "real" leadership. He is saying we don't march in lockstep.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:38 AM
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13. Well, I'm a Dean supporter to begin with.
I think he and Webb will get along very well.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:43 AM
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14. I think so, too.
But you are right. The congressional leaders told him from the start he was not to interfere in policy. I guess traditionally chairs really don't, but this is different. He has goals other chairs never had, and he is on his way to achieving them.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:12 AM
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10. Wonderful Wonderful WONDERFUL speech
Poor Prince Codpiece doesnt have a clue ....

Webb was superb .... He spoke for me and my family tonight ....
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Clinton_Co_Regulator Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:20 AM
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11. Populism = 1
DLCentric plain jane room temp schmegma = 0
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:37 AM
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15. Webb touched every issue in my response to that DNC e-mail
-with far more passion and eloquence.

With this news about a speech from "leadership", I'd speculate (because I let me do that) that Dean could have been reinforcing Webb's decision to go with his own. At any rate, I'm sure glad it worked out the way it did. AND I hope Webb and "leadership" receive enough enthusiastic praise about what we did hear to recognize the vital importance of that message.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:43 AM
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16. WHO IS THE LAST POLITICIAN WE HAVE TO - WRITE - THEIR - OWN - SPEECHES?
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 10:43 AM by charles t
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:52 AM
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18. President Clinton.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 11:29 AM
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20. Coincidental that Bill Clinton was the last Democrat to inspire the masses - Dems & independendents?
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 11:30 AM by charles t


Is it coincidental that Bill Clinton was the last Democrat to inspire the masses - Democrats & independents alike?


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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 11:02 AM
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19. many politicians do this
the staff will write a speech and the person giving the speech will largely re-write to fit their tone.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 11:44 AM
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21. I think Obama does, too.
At least his Convention speech was written by himself.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 01:53 AM
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22. Video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fmlOeaJ0j0

If you watch till the end there is a great close-up of Bush's snickering "if I were a dictator" remark.

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