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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 08:58 PM
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With a heavy heart, I must say that it is time for Clark to drop out
It's time for General Clark to close up shop and end his race for the presidency. Democratic primary voters have chosen someone else to represent the party this fall. We must respect that choice and do what's best for the team by asking that General Clark end his race for the presidency.

I have no regrets about supporting General Clark for the presidency. I was proud to support a candidate who has served his country so honorably. I embraced his ideas and his vision for the country and would have been proud to have him as commander-in-chief during these tough times. He is not a career politician, had never run for elective office, yet he put together a nationwide organization and won the Oklahoma primary. Some of the professional politicians in this race have won none.

I have no doubt that General Clark will do the right thing and do what is best for the Democratic Party.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:01 PM
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1. wrong!!!!
he's currently in SECOND in Tennessee - hahahahahahahaHA!!!!!
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:03 PM
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4. Second is not winning
We're number two!
We're number two!
We're number two!
We're number two!
We're number two!
We're number two!
We're number two!

That's not a chant to get too excited about.
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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:07 PM
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12. so says u...question is ...
why do you find it necessary to rain on another posters parade?
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:10 PM
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15. Uh....excuse me.....
It was the poster I replied to that was "raining on the parade" of another Clark supporter who was being honest about what he sees as reality in 2004! Read the post I replied to.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:02 PM
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2. I, personally, need a couple more days to process everything
unless Wes takes the decision out of my hands...

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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:04 PM
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6. This is me as well
Wes Clark has my support until he chooses otherwise. And I still highly resent having my choice taken away. I have alot of thinking to do about democracy (or the lack thereof) as a whole.
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kayleybeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:05 PM
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7. Me too, Rowdyboy
either way though, I am voting for Wesley Clark on March 9th in the Louisiana primary.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 10:11 PM
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Our primary is the same day and I fully intend to vote for Wes
short of him withdrawing AND endorsing Edwards.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:02 PM
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3. nice post bluestater,
Clark provided a great service to the party.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:03 PM
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5. Classy post, Clark will be well-used in the upcoming Dem Administration
Secretary of Defense or State.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:06 PM
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8. Knowbody should drop out until after super Tuesday
Except Dean yuuuuck
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:12 PM
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18. You got it!
Knowbody but Dean!
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:06 PM
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9. Why all the insistence that Clark drop out?
It is some kind of deafening chorus-what about some of the others?
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:07 PM
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13. Because some people hear fear him.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:07 PM
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10. Don't you think Clark is the best one to make this decision?
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Wonco_the_Sane Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:07 PM
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11. I just got some good advice...
...on my Dean thread. If it's not statistically impossible, why give up? Keep the Repugs guessing. At least you have a primary victory. :)
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:10 PM
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14. Clark ran an honorable campaign, & seems like a very decent guy.
And he is no less a Democrat than many other so-called "Democrats," many of whom are crypto-Republicans anyway. // It's a remarkable commentary on the state of things, when a lifelong denizen of the military-industrial complex is actually NOT even close to being the most right-leaning Democrat in the race.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:12 PM
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16. I'll be honest
I've thought the same thing at times but I am not sure. If he has the money, I think he should stay in. It helps him get out his issues and helps all of us hear how bad * is on national security. I also think it helps the party to have a contested primary. We get more coverage.

Clark needs to do what's right for him and his family. He is an incredible man and I'm so glad he decided to run. He's given much to this primary process. Besides, I can still hope.
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Sushi-Lover Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:12 PM
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17. Why?
I actually don't understand why it is 'best for the party' that Clark, or any of the other candidate drop out. The more voices we have the better. Also, I'm not sure that having the eventual nominee clear early on is best. That means more time for the opposition to go negative on one person. I respect your post .. I just don't understand it.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 10:39 PM
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31. Exactly.
Right now, the Republican smear machine is hitting all of the candidates, not just one.

The longer this fight goes on the better. It's free corporate news whore publicity. Milk it, keep the GOP firing at five people instead of one. They can't get a good target while there are so many. That's my take.

Goodness, I've become cynical. ;-)
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:13 PM
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19. Wait just a minute -
how many states have had their primaries? It's not over yet. Don't let the media choose your candidate, for God's sake!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:15 PM
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20. He should drop out when he is ready
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 09:38 PM by mmonk
He answered the call of the draft movement. He will do his best until it is certain mathematically I presume. It's not like he hasn't picked up any delegates.
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:18 PM
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21. To those tht think
Clark ought to leave the race, who would you support in his stead?

I get the impression that supporter of other candidates think they would get a number of Clark folks to back them
Kerry for the veteran angle
Dean for the outsider angle
Edwards for the southern angle

My feeling is that if Clark were to drop out (Which I don't see) it would boost any of the other candidates numbers- it would be a wash. Though personally were Clark to drop out of the race I would support DK.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:21 PM
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22. why? why? why?
Why should Gen Clark drop out????

There are still 9 looooong months before the damn election!

He has ardent supporters who want a voice!

Only if Gen Clark has decided that he is flat-out tired of it all, worn down (in other words, it's a personal decision) should he exit. NOT because the DNC / DLC / media demands it.

So, what happens when King Kerry takes an ugly turn in the media and Bu$hCo gives him both barrels - the week after everybody else drops out? We will be screwed!

I'm a Dean supporter, and I'm really turned off that anyone but the annointed one is being given the bum's rush so soon!

We all have important things to add, and the doomsday scenario for Democrats if Kerry is our only option within the next few weeks is very quickly becoming reality.

This party will be doomed.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:30 PM
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23. I respecfully disagree
As long as this primary goes on before the convention, the Democrats are able to get the attention of the press, and not be over-run by the republican press.

The ideas that are coming forth from the Democrats are fresh, and bring the real issues to the front
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SWPAdem Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:30 PM
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24. Hold your head up awhile longer
The push to narrow the field is coming from the media and all the other corporate whoremasters. A strong field of two or three candidates IS WHAT A PRIMARY IS SUPPOSED TO BE. A diversity of ideas helps to keep the eventual nominee honest and gives national exposure to all of our candidates, one of which, may be chosen as running mate. If all the other candidates drop out, that makes it that much easier for the media and the RNC to sling mud and lies at a single candidate...believe me, they won't be happy until everyone but Kerry drops out.

This is OUR primary and OUR choice, not the media's, or the DNC's, for that matter. This bullshit of frontloading the primaries is going to result in the disenfranchisement of voters in about thirty states.

Stick with your candidate as long as he stays in the race, if that is what you feel is right. Write his name in, if you have to. Send money and work hard. That's what I'm going to do.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:38 PM
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25. Uh BlueState.... The Primaries are not over yet.
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 09:39 PM by Tinoire
This is a bit... pre-mature.

On edit: Unless he's investing his own money in this which would be a damn shame.

The race has just begun!
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:43 PM
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26. This is a decision for Clark to make
And I'm with him all the way.

The reasons I supported him in the beginning still exist.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:50 PM
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28. I'm sticking with Clark until he tells me otherwise
and I think he should stay in until Super Tues. I think what the Edwards people are doimg are tryin to get it to a 2 man race why should we let go, Clark is every bit the cnadidate that Edwards and Dean is for that matter as Kerry is. I say stay in.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:49 PM
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27. why drop out before Super Tuesday?
There are still 70% plus delegates to assign aren't there?
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oxymoron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 09:53 PM
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29. I am in no hurry for anyone to drop out.
Especially a great candidate like General Clark. Stay in and keep hammering away at *. Go Clark!
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