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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 02:58 PM Original message |
Despite the dislike for her on DU, I think Hillary has a very good chance of winning the nom. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
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az chela (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Well this is scary |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. IMO, the Bushes won't mind if she wins. They prefer a Dem they KNOW than one |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 11:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
76. Cindy should run. But that would be the Nader problem again... |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
82. Anyone think that Obama having 110% support from Oprah will hurt Hillary?? |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
63. In what way is she another W??????? |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think she's a strong candidate... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. I agree with what you say=well said. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. Agreed |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
77. I beg to differ |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. Al Gore Must Defeat Her |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Do we want to support someone who wanted to place Lieberman a |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I Don't Care About '00 |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
43. His choice in 2000 i think says much about his values, his worldview, |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. It's been 6 years. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. I guess. He is now a mature adult. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I like Al |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Thanks Crispin |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
5. Your points seem reasonable. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Yeah, I mostly hangout with Democrats too. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
60. I suppose everyone in the world but me has already noticed |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Could it be.... SANTA? |
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Bjornsdotter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think she can do it |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. talk to people who aren't online. They despise her. n/t |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I have talked to many people who are not online and they... |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. I usually try to just see what people are thinking about her w/o inserting |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. That has been my experience too |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. I talk to people who aren't online all the time. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. not only the nomination |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
18. Mainstream Democratic Americans all across the country agree with you. |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 01:16 AM Response to Reply #18 |
78. We need to ditch this foolish meme of online vs. not-online Dems |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 06:29 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Well, if you're going to dispute my assertions, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I don't necessarily disagree... |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. one of the problems with the netroots |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Hah, people don't take it seriously do they? |
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AJH032 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. wow, comparing Hillary to Hitler? |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. very low! And inaccurate too! This type of thing really demeans our whole |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. lower than whale shit at the bottom of the ocean |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
66. I've heard too many references to Hillary as "Hitlery" from FReepers and CUckoos |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
20. Agree that her chances are pretty good. She has some serious |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Hum, yes. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Very good questions. I'm not sure. Nevada is never this |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Just for shits and giggles: |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Thanks for the stats, crispini. Much appreciated. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Yep, we are ONLY 12 months away. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I love it that you're going to Iowa to volunteer and be a part |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
67. That's not a concern |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. You may be right. But the debate podium strikes me as the |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 10:00 PM Original message |
I recall when she was pushing her Health Care Agenda as First Lady |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
72. Agreed. I admired her for standing up for herself in those |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
21. I think there's a good chance you're right |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Very good thoughts. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. I agree. We cannot forget the 50% of the US population are moderates. |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
27. I think she'll be the flavor of the week for a while..... |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. All quite true. |
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Strawman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
34. I won't say anything bad about Hillary Clinton |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
35. Well, that seemingly makes one of us? n/t |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Hum, didja read the thread? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
68. I meant it between you and me - sort of tongue-in-cheek |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Oh, I'm not saying anything about the general election, mind you. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Excellent points! |
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election_2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
41. Your disclaimer about the netroots could be the key |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Yeah, but we're not enough to win. |
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election_2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Maybe 2008 will shed some light... |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I want to tell you a story, because I've actually been through this twice. |
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election_2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Well your example was specific to his particular campaign |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Yes, very true. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
42. I think Obama will give HRC a run for her money. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
64. I love Obama. And Gore. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. I think after Junior's fiasco otherwise known as his presidency, |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. OMG. E ticket! |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Mr. Toad's Wild Ride - woo-hoo!!! |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
44. I agree |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 01:23 AM Response to Reply #44 |
79. The "strength" and "toughness" descriptions are also overrated |
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benny05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
45. and on the average of negatives |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
53. We still have a year to go. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. You have many good points. |
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MODemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
57. I happen to be a supporter of Hillary Clinton |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
59. Then we will lose the White House. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Besides a few family members who pester me for being a Kerry supporter. |
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generaldemocrat (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 07:52 AM Response to Reply #59 |
85. Exactly.... |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-20-07 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
65. Very good chance in the primary. HORRIBLE odds in the general election. nt |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #65 |
81. She would be a disaster |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
80. Hillary is good for Obama and Edwards, they're all extremely talented , Bill Clinton |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
83. Hillary will not win. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. So... who are you going to campaign for in the primary? |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
86. It's not the nomination.. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. And because of the general election, I worry about the nomination. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. A fair interpretation of the comment... |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-21-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Ha. I'm fairly literal. |
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