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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:40 AM
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There are few people who hate Hillary Clinton more than Chris Matthews
That should make most people here very happy with Chris, at least for today!

I don't know. Maybe he hates her because he fears her. Whatever it is, he sure didn't suppress how he felt about her.

Did anyone hear him just now bashing the living daylights out of her on MSNBC? Either he hates her more than Rush Limbaugh, or he's so afraid of her that he had to stand up there and belittle her for 15 full minutes in his attempt to push Mitt Romney, his favorite Republican candidate from MA.

He even went as far as lying, when he said Hillary compared abortion rights to looking out for the welfare of soldiers in her statement from her website this morning, when she did no such thing, unless I heard her wrong. He just spun it that way.

Matthews went on and on and on, even saying how the only people Hillary turns on are "these women's groups who sit there clapping for her" at women's events.

He also compared Bill Clinton's presidency to George W Bush's and how the people don't want to return to either type of presidency again. Gimme a break, Chris. How far fetched is that comparison?

Matthews also took the opportunity to berate the Democratic Party, saying once their candidate loses...and he referred specifically to John Kerry and Al Gore...that Democrats "hate" them and cast them aside.

He only had good things to say about Obama, although he called Obama and Hillary "long shots" to win any general election and that the Democrats better get their act in gear and get someone who can stand up to McCain or Romney. lol
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:44 AM
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1. Are you kidding? He has been touting her non stop for some time now, calling
her the front runner, acting as if her and Obama are the only choices despite Edwards lead in the polls in Iowa.

She is corporate media's candidate.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:45 AM
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2. Calling her the front runner & bashing her into oblivion are two very different things.
Did you hear him just now tearing her apart? He sounded like a huge sore loser and very babyish in his tone.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:12 AM
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14. Didn't see this current segment but perhaps it is her pro-war stance. Tweety
has certainly climbed on the anti-war bandwagon as of lately.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:17 AM
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17. Tweety is anti war but Hillary isn't? Gimme a break.
I love this prevailing idea around here that Clinton is some kind of a war monger or something. Only because it's her...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:55 AM
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10. No kidding. And Dem party establishment DOES act hatefully towards Gore, Kerry, Carter
and still runs from George McGovern, fer chrissakes.

They do nothing to support the truth about these honest men or their seriously important contributions to history yet they'll make sure to go to the mat to protect Bush1.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:20 AM
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19. I disagree. Where has anyone in our party ever acted hatefully towards Al Gore?
Most Democrats seem to love him just as much or even more AFTER he got robbed by the Supreme Court. At least that's the way I see it.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:39 AM
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22. I agree - Chris "liked" her so that Duers could be "skeptical" seeing the RW"push"her on us! LOL n/t
n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 12:05 PM
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30. The establishment Dems did NOT act favorably towards him and was another
factor in keeping him out of 2004 race. The establishment money people shut him down.

BTW - I mentioned FOUR Dems. You want to disagree that Carter, McGovern and Kerry get treated badly, and for WHAT reason?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 12:12 PM
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32. I wasn't aware that the establishment Dems tried to keep Gore out of the 2004 race.
BTW - I mentioned FOUR Dems. You want to disagree that Carter, McGovern and Kerry get treated badly, and for WHAT reason?


No. I only disagreed with your mentioning that Gore was hated by Democrats after he lost, so isn't it obvious that I didn't disagree wiith you on the other ones?
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:46 AM
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3. The only people Hillary turns on are women who clap for her...
I guess we women don't count much, in his eyes. What a stupid statement that is, not to mention his statement about President Clinton.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:47 AM
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6. My wife and I just shook our heads in disbelief when he said that. nt
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:19 AM
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18. Tweety often creates that reaction in people--like the time he asked Edwards
if Elizabeth "bites your balls" over some issue or other.

Elizabeth was also present and she said in dismay, "My children are watching this!!"
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nradisic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:46 AM
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4. Chris forgot his insulin...
Chris Matthews is another psychopath MSM pundit....maybe he forgot his insulin shot this morning...then again, he's just being himself...
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Vexatious Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:47 AM
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5. He is pretty hard to take.
He's like Hannity with a brain--still a jerk, but he can read without moving his lips. I'll never forget: "We're all neo-cons now"
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:49 AM
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7. Even though he makes like he likes Obama...and I like Obama, too...yes, he is hard to take.
I think he really made a fool out of himself just now.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:51 AM
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8. Yep, little Mr. GE, huffing puffing - altered state breathlessness.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:53 AM
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9. They love to hate her
She's the only chance the GOP has to win in 08. There's no-one that can energize thier base like Hillary, just like "I'm a UNITER not a DIVIDED" united Dems.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:14 AM
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15. I've noticed that.
The right wing seems far more obsessed with Hillary than are even her Democratic supporters. The best laugh I ever got was when I realized that all the people who laughed nonstop at her statement that there was a "vast right wing conspiracy" were... wrong. There WAS a vast right wing conspiracy.

I was one of those people. I got to see/hear/smell the right wingnut view of Hillary, for years. She was "a lesbian", "a domineering wife", "a shrew", "shrill", "a radical communist"... (After all, she read Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals", didn't she? That tidbit literally threw the wingnuts into fits.)

She was going to turn the U.S. into a communist country singlehandedly in record time. Fat-Junkie Limbaugh used to play a parody song about her called "The Little First Lady With Megalomania".

All because she'd a)gotten degrees in what was formerly a "man's" career; b)she didn't sit and merely smile catatonically, in a drug-induced daze, like SOME first ladies; c)she was quoted as saying of Gennifer Flowers, "I'll crucify her" (the wingnuts of course totally missed the fact that this placed Hillary into a very "female" stereotype: the vengeful wife).

I would vote for Hillary if she ran. But I am disappointed in something about her: she is too noncommittal. She seems too cautious. Her seeming failure to really take a stand on any issue (since her election to the senate) makes her seem to be just a typical sold-out politician--like those whose only real concern is holding onto their place of honor as a bigwig officeholder, and moving up if possible, but w/o taking any real risks, comfortable in the knowledge that even if they don't move up, they'll still be a senator for the rest of their life.

Not exactly the wild-eyed lunatic portrayed by the wingnuts. But then, they are the same people who mistook Dick Cheney for a human being...
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:56 AM
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11. Tweety went on and on bashing Hillary as if he had a personal vendetta. Hill won't
be doing any interviews with that delusional pig.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:07 AM
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13. I thought the same thing about her not giving any interviews w/him...BUT..
then I got thinking that if things go negatively for her and she doesn't win the Primary, she will at some point confront Matthews in an interview and go up one side of him and down the other, just like she did to Limbaugh several years ago when she got that fat windbag in tears after she leveled him about what he said about Chelsea on his talk show.

You can count on one thing. Hillary at some point will get even with Matthews, and in a face to face confrontation, my bet is on her.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:21 AM
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20. Tweets wouldn't resist doing a hatchet job on her in an interview. Hill would
Edited on Sat Jan-20-07 10:21 AM by oasis
garner sympathy points.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:24 AM
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21. One on one, she'd annihilate him.
I've seen her do it before. She's made more than one neocon sorry that they ever bashed her husband or daughter when she was First Lady.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:17 AM
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16. Maybe he's been running into Dick Morris in the men's room, or something.
We all know how Dick feels about Hillary.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 11:22 AM
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26. Fox bought Morris is a slimy gun-for-hire. Tweety is just a garden variety hack.nt
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:57 AM
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12. The Clintons obviously rubbed
our Chris the wrong way at some time. He sometimes seems to be on a one-way crusade against them. Although maybe tomorrow we will see one of his other personalities appear. I am reminded of the book about Sybil and her many personalities.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:47 AM
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23. Berate the Dem party, specifically Kerry/Gore? Sounds like some DUers.
:eyes:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 11:02 AM
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24. There is a difference, though
Edited on Sat Jan-20-07 11:03 AM by mtnsnake
When DU'ers do it, the criticism is usually born out of an intention to do what's best for our party, at least what we each think is best. If we "bash" one Democratic candidate, it's because we like another DEMOCRATIC candidate better, not a Republican. We have our own party in our best interests, despite the arguments we often get into.

When some Republican, some enemy of ours, or someone from MSM berates our party, like what he just did, they can go fuck themselves because it's THEIR party they have in their best interest, not ours.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 11:15 AM
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25. I didn't hear Matthews, but I do not think he's a rethug, so
your premise could be off. You obviously don't like him, and that's okay. He gets paid to be ornery; I think true rethugs are salivating at the prospect of Clinton running, because they know she's beatable. That's why I'm not so enthusiastic about her, but it's early; we'll see.
As for DUers' intentions, you could have fooled me. There's lots of hate here, or at the least, not much thought going in to many comments I've read.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 11:44 AM
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27. Tweety has displayed his contempt for Hillary over and over again.
He somehow manages to inject her name into EVERY conversation he has with anyone. He could be talking about putting new carpet in his den and he would somehow work in a snark about Hillary and Bill. He has made no attempt to be fair and balanced when it comes to the Clintons.

There was an idea posted here on DU a couple weeks back that Tweety campaigned hard for the job of Press Secretary during the Clinton administration and was not even considered. He was extremely pissed - according to the rumor. Don't know if there is any credence to any of this but it would explain a lot. His hatred of the Clintons knows no bounds. He has been on a "pajamahadeen" (his favorite word to describe bloggers) on them ever since. Tweety was "honored" by Media Matters for 2005 for spreading the most misinformation. He had to be really shoveling some sh*t to beat out the people at Faux News.

Tweety blows hot and cold about other people. Today he is their best friend, tomorrow he is slamming with both barrels but he is always, always, always consistent to bashing the Clintons.

If there fair and balanced rules come back into play by the FCC Tweety will have to spend 30 minutes of an hour show completely quiet because he can't be a adequate "journalist" and report both sides, he thrives on being nasty - something he IS extremely qualified to be on a nightly basis.

I can't stand Tweety and his Nerfball show. You might have picked up on that.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 11:51 AM
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29. Not true that I "obviously don't like him". I've stuck up for him more times than not.
Edited on Sat Jan-20-07 11:55 AM by mtnsnake
I'm taking exception to him for THIS time. He went way overboard, IMO, as a news person in attacking Hillary, and there was no reason for him to attack the Democratic Party like he did when he asserted how Democrats love to throw our previous candidates to the wolves and he mentioned Al Gore as one example. That's a crock.

As far as you thinking he's not a rethug, I'll bet there are more than a fair share of DUers who would disagree with you on that one. I'm not really sure what he is. Even the times when I agree with what he has to say, he usuallly sounds like a sore losing dork with a chip on his shoulder.

There's lots of hate here

I won't argue with you on that one.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 12:07 PM
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31. and when corpmedia bashes a Dem and another Dem joins in on the lies?
.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 12:20 PM
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33. I think most people here are intelligent enough to have their own ideas
and opinions of what's going on. If someone happens to propose a "certain something", and that "certain something" coincidentally matches the opinion of something you heard on the MSM, it doesn't automatically make that person a parrot of the MSM.

Only in your mind do "other Dems" here join in with corpmedia in the lies
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 12:38 PM
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34. When corpmedia runs Bushies' storyline that says Murtha attacked troops
and any Dem senator or staff agrees, or when BUshies claim Kerry insulted the troops and a Dem scolds him for it, or when Dem Senate staffers join Bushies in condemning Boxer's insult to single women it's pretty self-explanatory what they are doing and there is no imagination necessary to notice it.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 11:49 AM
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28. Matthews is a catholic chauvinist
They fear women will take over and kick their ass. The biggest part of the hate Hillary group went to Catholic Schools. The nuns made them hate women. That is why there are no women priests. Women are assigned subservient rolls. He is a very hateful person and needs to have his ears pinned back. (old expression) I met Hillary and she is a very dynamic person with a great feeling for children. I like her and will wait to see how this pans out. I will express my concerns to her and listen carefully to what she says. I say she should drop that Evin Bayah right away. Also Rhame Emanuel.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 01:07 PM
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35. Hillary??
Voted for the IWR. That makes her unfit for the job. Case Closed.

Also, we've had a Clinton or Bush as President since 1988. That's just too wierd to tolerate.

-85% Jimmy
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