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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 02:45 AM
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If The Draft Is Ever Reenacted I Propose
That Corporations be among the first to go. If a corporation is entitled to the same rights as a person (albeit a VIP) they should be considered just as eligible to be drafted. And since Halli burton seems to be "qualified" to do most of the work needed during a war, it should be the first to go, at service level pay of course. I wonder how many corporations would be so gungho for war if this were the case?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 03:17 AM
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1. Since a corporation is not a human being, how do you draft it?
If you are suggesting that any humans who work for a corporation should be drafted before those who work for other employers -- the government, for example -- I disagree.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 03:20 AM
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2. But It Is
Which is why you can't sue the owners but only the corporation. They have been given the same rights (actually even better rights) than a peson.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 03:25 AM
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3. I Suppose The Humans That Work For The Corporation Could
Quit and thus avoid being drafted. I don't see why it is so foreign an idea, businesses are routinely asked to sacrifice in real wars (at least some of the are while others seem to thrive). I simply am advocating that they know upfront that they in lieu of profiteering form a war, they will be sacrificing too.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 04:03 AM
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4. All corporations aren't profiteers, and some profiteers aren't corporations.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 04:26 AM
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5. Can't Argue That
But all should be just as willing as us to help out the country in a time of war!
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 05:47 AM
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6. But the people who work there ARE us. At least, they're many of us.
I still don't understand what you're saying. A corporation is a thing that cannot pass a physical and be drafted.

The human beings that work at a corporation should and would be subject to a draft the way anyone would be. But I see no reason for them to be first in line.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 06:26 AM
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7. Hmm, Guess I Wasn' t Clear
During previous wars, businesses could be taken over by the government for the good of the government during wars. Corporations are defined as a person (legal, fictional or moral but not natural). They were set up to protect business owners from liability. In fact, corporations were given the same rights as a person (actually even more rights) and the owners released from their liability of the business. I fail to see why American individuals should give their lives for the country while individual corporations profit. If Halliburton & Exxon had to sacrifice for this "war" instead of making a profit from it, I can guarantee we wouldn't be in it. The employees are individuals ans as such would be free to quit. Would the entire workforce quit in lieu of service to the country? Who cares? The result is the same, war only when we are really threatened.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 11:59 AM
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16. Okay, I gotcha now. Thanks for your patience. n/t
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 06:47 AM
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8. I propose total defiance to the draft.
Edited on Sat Jan-20-07 06:50 AM by Cascadian
Encourage your children to speak Spanish and have them go to some left-leaning South American country.



John
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 07:06 AM
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9. Not Sure I GetYour Drift.
Why would speaking Spanish help?
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 08:16 AM
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10. Need to learn Spanish if you go to Latin America.
Edited on Sat Jan-20-07 08:17 AM by Cascadian
I would encourage young people to seriously consider fleeing to places like Venezuela, Chile, or Argentina. Of course if you go to Brazil, Portuguese would help too. Young people are not going to be able to go to Canada so Latin America would be a good choice to dodge the draft. Of course that country would have to be left-leaning.



John
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 08:20 AM
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11. Great post. The issue is that during war corporations need to share the burden
They need to provide their services at a reasonable cost. "Share the burden during war" is an issue the democrats are not pushing hard enough. Limit corporate profits temporarily during war time. I think the war's would be a lot shorter.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 08:29 AM
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13. Perfect Translation
Thanks, I needed the help!
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 08:26 AM
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12. draft only the major shareholders and the top execs
oh, and the corporate lobbyists too ...

they're the ones who push for war so they can make more money ...

do not draft the rank and file employees ...
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 08:33 AM
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14. LOL I See Stock Markets Plumetting When Repugs Are Elected
I love just envisioning it.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:45 AM
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15. Actually, corporations can be drafted already
It's called industrial mobilization. As I remember it, the president has the authority to enact it upon a full declaration of war from Congress -- not sure what the limits on that authority is, if any. There were all sorts of contingency programs for industrial mobilization during the Cold War. Kind of like registering for the draft. With one important exception. Corporations that are most likely to be needed in war are generally paid to keep themselves ready. No such luck with you guys who have to register, eh?
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