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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:46 PM
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Boy, Bush is just getting killed by everyone today! Finally!
I have been all over the net looking at the response to his speech and I can't find anyone anywhere that really defends it. Some people have defended him because he is Commander and Chief and thus should be respected. (What bull that is)

I missed the speech but read that he just plain looked scared. And everyone seems to think it is a horrible idea that won't work and will simply make matters worse and get more people killed.

And Rice is really getting dissed too. One article I say said that the State Department under her is a mess. She certainly doesn't seem to have done anything for anyone during her tenure.

I guess I am really surprised by this total rejection of this administration. There for a while it seemed like they were going to run us all over the cliff and no one would ever stand up and fight.

Well, the fight is on now. This will get interesting.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:47 PM
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1. Well, it only took em 6 years, but the American pubic is finally on to em.'
*sigh*
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:54 PM
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4. I think the backlash is a lot worse when it is the people who actually
believed in you and supported you. When they turn they really turn and tend to get really ugly. They feel humiliated and betrayed and shamed.

I wish that people had given up on him sooner but I think they had so much emotion vested in the whole deal that they tried to hang on and hoped that things would improve.

Now it is pretty obvious that things are not going to turn around - that he isn't this great strong leader. He is just spoiled and stubborn with a capacity to be really mean. And not very intelligent probably. And really just not a very impressive human being.

But, believe it or not, I still have friends who simply will not give up. They have just quit thinking about the whole thing.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:59 PM
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8. Denial
is the last refuge.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:01 PM
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9. I think really that they are embarrassed.
Some of these were smart people and they just bought this whole thing hook, line and sinker. And then touted it and argued for it with everyone and anyone who disagreed.

Now they are just ashamed, I think. To have been so completely wrong.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:44 PM
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19. When the dam of denial cracks,
the outpouring of pent-up rage is total and devastating. There is no fury quite like that f the ex-True Believer.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:56 PM
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5. 9-11 turned a lot of people in sheep imo. nt
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:58 PM
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7. Yes, it did. It was just such a shock to the whole nation.
People in other countries have a lot more experience in dealing with that kind of stuff than we do. It upsets them but they handle it a lot better than we did.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:06 PM
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22. I think everyone was shocked by it.
We had an outpouring of support from other nations, including some that were not our best pals. I have personal experience of foreign friends' (Spaniards) concerns -- we got numerous calls in the days following 9/11.

I think the nature of the attack was shocking to almost everyone who saw the footage of it, and it threw some Americans into hysteria. I am still stunned when I think of it, even though I didn't give in to the "Oh, Mr. Bush, save us!" point of view, so I am not surprised that we as a nation have had trouble dealing with it.

And, to your point about other nations having experience, Spain, the country I have knowledge of (I lived there for several years) has also dealt with terrorism for a long time, and you are right, they do deal with it differently. Nonetheless, who has seen something like two giant towers crumbling to the ground?
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:49 PM
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2. Lieberman loved it
lol
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:03 PM
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11. I think that man has completely lost his mind.
I used to kind of like him. Now I just listen and shake my head.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:17 PM
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15. Me too
He and McCain are two peas in a pod now.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:50 PM
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3. CEOs do not make great governmental heads.
I'll tell you another mistake we're making in the corporate world. In order to save money, we're getting rid of our support departments and forcing workers to be everything. Salesman, serviceman, and trainer. The ultimate rugged individual. That's why no one in America has any desire to help each other out. It's dog eat dog.

Corporate America isn't exactly a good model for the future, is it?
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 03:56 PM
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6. No. It's not. But Bush was a horrible CEO, too.
He has just aways been a giant fuck up.

I can hardly wait to see what Molly Ivins has to say about all of this. She manages to hit the nail on the head every time.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:24 PM
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16. The only thing the Bush Boys are good at
is going bankrupt. That is the only way they know how to make money.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:46 PM
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20. If they grade MBA students like they do for other serious classes
he would had flunked.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:03 PM
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10. My local rightwing DJ was defending him
but then he likes to think he's a poor man's Rush Limbaugh. He should stick to humor, in my opinion.
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:04 PM
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12. Do you think congress will have the balls to stop funding the surge?
I have my doubts.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:04 PM
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13. You're WRONG! I caught some Limbaugh and he's still on board
Didn't say when he would enlist, but he is 100% for everyone else going and for W's policy!
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:05 PM
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14. He must be doing drugs again. LSD? Heroin? n/t
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:26 PM
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17. I think he gets horse from the Bush drug cartel(TM)
Record crop of opium in Afghanistan last year.
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MadLinguist Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 04:42 PM
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18. In the meanwhile, New Orleans got its throat slit
and it lies bleeding still. Is anyone fighting for it? It sure feels like all this johnny-come-lately outrage at Bush and his Haliburton buddies is ass covering cowardice, and way late for helping the drowned city, whose murder rate in December rivaled Baghdad's.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 05:58 PM
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21. I know. That bothers me a lot, too.
Edited on Thu Jan-11-07 05:59 PM by leftyladyfrommo
And I think I saw today where we have 750,000 homeless people in this country. And we are spending billions and billions on that mess in Iraq.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 09:36 PM
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23. all the talk shows are repeating how Bush/condi got smashed
today
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