Lieberman is a treasonous, rat bastard.

[fooj]

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Sen._Lieberman_backs_Bush_troop_surge_0110.html

<snip>
"I applaud the President for rejecting the fatalism of failure and pursuing a new course to achieve success in Iraq. There is no more difficult decision that a President can make than to send our nation’s bravest soldiers and patriots into harm’s way. Yet, no objective is more worthy in defending America’s vital national security interests than aiding a struggling democracy and supporting brave moderates who are in a life and death struggle against totalitarian extremists supported by Al Qaeda and Iran.

Our troops have sacrificed much and now more will be asked of them to defend our nation. They fight in a just, noble and moral cause against the forces of terrorism, and their sacrifices will make America and the world more secure. I want our troops to return home as soon as possible – after we allow, enable and support them in accomplishing their mission in Iraq in finishing this fight.

I know there are deep differences of opinion about what the President has proposed tonight. In the coming days and weeks, we should undertake respectful debate and deliberation over this new plan. But, let us also remember that excessive partisan division and rancor at home only weakens our will to prevail in this war. I am particularly pleased that the President has taken the important and necessary step of creating a bi-partisan Consultative Group consisting of representatives and leaders of the Executive and Legislative branches to address issues related to the war against global terrorism.

At the moment, we and our Iraqi allies are not winning in Iraq and the American people are understandably frustrated by the miscalculations, the lack of progress, and the daily scenes of violence and casualties. But, make no mistake - defeat in Iraq would result in a moral and strategic setback in our global struggle against Islamist extremists who seek to strike our interests and our homeland.

Success is attainable in Iraq, and tonight the President has offered a comprehensive program to chart a new course in both winning the military struggle to establish order and in achieving the political and economic objectives to build a more promising future for Iraqis. However, no progress is possible unless we restore order, particularly in Baghdad.

Tonight, the President did not take the easy path, but he took the correct and courageous course. We are engaged in a world-wide struggle against Islamist extremism, and Iraq is now the central front. It is a dangerous illusion to believe that we can depart Iraq and the inevitable killing fields and terrorist violence will not follow us in retreat - even to our own shores. That is why it is right and imperative that we recommit ourselves to success in Iraq. Weakness only emboldens our enemy, but united resolution will make our nation safer for generations to come."
<snip>

I despise this man. Completely. :grr:

[lancdem]

1. And he lied to the voters of Conn.

by pretending he wanted to drawn down forces. SOB

[connecticut yankee]

61. Don't blame us Dems

he was elected by the Repukes.

[against all enemies]

71. Any quotes? I recall him saying he was for withdrawing troops..

funny how he seems to forget it.

[MadMaddie]

2. Um...

<snip>
rejecting fatalism of failure and pursuing a new course to achieve success in Iraq.
<snip>

So the answer is "Victory" withought victory being defined...how do we neutur Lieberman..

[ShortnFiery]

3. Joe Lieberman's more shameful to our party than that mad hatter - Zell Miller

:(

[The Magistrate]

5. A Pleasure To Be In Agreement With You, Ma'am

The reptile is a disgrace to the good name of snakes everywhere....

[ShortnFiery]

9. Thank you kindly Sir.

:hi: A good turn of events now and then. :-)

[appal_jack]

20. i'd be glad...

to place myself squarely in the camp between short-n-fiery and the good magistrate.

-app

[rpannier]

10. You're a member of the Connecticut for Lieberman Party?

Because joe isn't a member of the Democratic Party.

[Chulanowa]

49. I have to agree!

Crazy he may have been, but at lezt Zell never pretended to be anything besides what he was. I'd rather have an honest but batshit politician than a lying and batshit one.

Of course I'd rather get hit in the mouth with a brick-in-a-sock than either of those, yes...

In joes case, I have to wonder. It could be that he sincerrely thinks this. How old is he? His facial expressiosn are starting to look very vacant and disjointed. It could very well be that he's simply losing touch with reality, in a very real way. In which case, I feel for him.. .and want him to go home for a good, soothing retirement.

[DemBones DemBones]

74. Zell Miller was a good Democratic governor who

did good things for Georgia, encouraged Bill Clinton to run for president, introduced him to Carville and Begala (who had run Zell's campaign), made a great speech at the convention that nominated Clinton the first time. He got weird after he was appointed to the Senate.

I know people think he's a DINO but my impression is that he still believes in most of the Democratic Party's principles. He still considers himself a Democrat and has said he always will. He was a Marine so it's not too unusual that he has the "support the CINC unquestioningly" mentality.

At least Zell didn't switch to the GOP and run for re-election, as he could well have done. He'd have probably been re-elected on either party's ticket because he has a long history in Georgia politics. I'm glad he chose to retire, though he was replaced by a Republican.

Holy Joe, OTOH, wouldn't take "No" for an answer from the Dems in Connecticut and has talked about going over to the GOP. Not to mention his role in robbing Al Gore of the presidency he won.

If only HE would retire. . .

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[The Magistrate]

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[aquart]

11. Excuse me?

Would you have the guts to clarify that remark, please?

[Demobrat]

7. Who the hell does he represent?

Not the people of CT, certainly.

[RiverStone]

8. Loserman drank the Kool-Aid a long time ago.

His only good to us now and the CT voters that were foolish enough to vote for him is he is the role model for:

Being a coward and hypocrite - abandoned his principals, abandoned his party, abandoned the TRUTH!!!

[atommom]

13. Hell, he's more Republican than the Republicans themselves.

Even Sam Brownback opposes escalation, for Pete's sake. I hope the Repubs who voted Lieberman in are happy...

[femrap]

78. Joe Lieberman is a neocon. nt

[Kagemusha]

14. I've decided to call him Holy War Joe

An upgrade of the old Holy Joe nickname.

[The Magistrate]

16. Not Bad, Sir

A decent piece of agit-prop....

[fooj]

25. Just a minor adjustment...

Holy War Judas. He has betrayed his party. He has betrayed his country. He is a full-on traitor.:grr:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

63. Joe-das Iscariot?

:shrug:

[Cobalt-60]

80. I like it.

[Joe Bacon]

29. Isn't "JIHAD JOE" a better fit?

I sure think so!

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

50. Jihad Joe Lieberman - I like the name. Thank God he's not a democrat

I'm glad he caucused with us, but I'm also glad there is not a "D" after his name.

[Kagemusha]

54. You are correct. I tip my hat - you've gone one better.

Jihad Joe, rhymes with J.I. Joe. Perfect.

[badgerpup]

15. Bush mentioned him BY NAME as giving him 'good advice' ...

during the last part of his feces flinging speech.

I'm betting that Joe is going to be tapped for VP when Cheney steps down due to 'health issues'.
I mean, how much more 'cooperative' and 'bi-partisan' can you get?
Lieberman IS a Democrat, right? EXTREME:sarcasm:

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

56. And Rell can appt. a Repuke to take LIEberman's Senate

seat. So, its a win-win for the pukes.
I hope all the morans in CT who voted for him are regretting it now.

BTW, LIEberman's arch enemy Prof. Orman has seized contrl of the CT for LIEbeman Party. Membership is open to all critics of LIEberman

[against all enemies]

72. Most of the "morans" who voted for Joe were actually republican morons.

And some older Democratic voters that thought they could still trust old Joe.

He shoved it up those Democrat's butts, and is doing Bush's bidding for the war. He is the lowest form of life.

[truthisfreedom]

17. Foolishness only emboldens our enemies, Joe.

And you're the biggest fool of all.

[hwmnbn]

18. During the speech the chimp used LIEberman....

by name as part of a bi-partisan group to advise on the progress of the war or some bullshit like that. All I know is I heard his name and I blew a gasket!!

[fooj]

26. Me, too.

It felt like a cold, slap in the face. I feel nothing but contempt for that treasonous, rat bastard.

[tavalon]

42. The two parties being

the Rethuglicans and Ol' Connecticut for Joe.

[SOS]

53. "bi-partisan group"

If a Democrat joins, it'll be tri-partisan.

[gulliver]

19. Don't be surprised if he announces for President in '08

Lieberman's got his Senate Seat locked for six years. Supporting Bush's war gambit is all upside, especially given that Lieberman's support of the war all along. Like Bush, Lieberman has nothing to lose and everything to gain by driving the country into more war. If the "surge" fails (no timeframe for that decision, I guess), then Lieberman's blame level remains unchanged at "high." Bush goes from political oblivion to political oblivion -- no change.

[tavalon]

43. Go for it Lieberman

The smackdown, and it will be a smackdown, will be worth the watch.

[Imagevision]

79. Don't be surprise when Lieberman is going to break your bubble by voting against Dems....

It is the reason why he was so heavily financially backed by the repukes...
Joe baby will be -- is the next Zel Miller for those aware of who he was.

[madrchsod]

21. there are others who also think joe is-

a "rat" bastard".......

[Zorra]

22. Obviously, unholy Joe is lying through his teeth because he is

serving war profiteers.

Nobody is fool enough to believe the unmitigated bullshit that Joe wrote there, not even Joe himself.

Lieberman is definitely working for the dark side.

[Gold Metal Flake]

23. Mister Lieberman has a job to do.

It's why he recieved those Publican votes. He is doing his job.

If anyone has any poo, fling it now. Someone this corrupt has got to have left some evidence somewhere.

[fooj]

27. No kidding.

We can't dig deep enough, IMO. This piece of filth has left piles of dirt...no doubt.

[Lord Byron]

24. I didn't like him in 2000. I don't like him today. Free-trade neocon Dem n/t

[tavalon]

44. Yeah, I voted for Gore in 2000

but I had to hold my nose for two reasons, one was Holy Joe and the other one was holier than thou Tipper. Tipper seems to have eased up and Lieberman isn't a Democrat anymore. I could vote for Gore a lot more easily the next time around. I hated Lieberman before it was fashionable to hate him.

[ieoeja]

64. I'm with tavalon 100%. n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

28. Comment

Lieberman no longer has enough credibility as a Democrat to give Bush bipartisan cover. Democratic voters rejected him and Mr. Bush's war in last year's primary and he went on to hold on to his Senate seat with Republican votes and White House money. He was the de facto Republican candidate.

Lieberman, your name is Wormtongue.

[Kablooie]

30. I don't know. I think there is something going on we don't know about.

Everything is getting just too bizarre.

Bush and his cronies have to have some reason for this unbelievable behavior.

I, for one, am prepared to be surprised when the true story finally comes out.

[druidity33]

67. * is the antichrist...

and he's assembling all his dark angels?

how about...

* is actually an EBE from the planetary system Idiotora and his mission is to wreck this planet for humankind... so that his reptilian species (that feeds on radioactive material) can colonize the Earth.

I'm sure there's plenty of good reasons for their behavior...

[fujiyama]

31. Just think...hopefully just two more years

of having to really deal with him. Hopefully the Dems can pick up a few more seats in the Senate in '08 (which should be possible), and the party can ignore him and he can be free to switch over and caucus with them.

[oasis]

32. Don Imus blasted Sen. Chris Dodd for not supporting Joe over Ned Lamont.

I wonder what the I-man will have to say about his beloved Joe now.

[anitar1]

36. Imus is an old has been imo. And I am old. n/t

[DemBones DemBones]

75. Better to be old than an old has-been, though,

isn't it? ;-)

[Clarkie1]

33. I wonder what Lieberman's approval ratings in CT are. Would be interesting to know. nt

[fuzzyball]

34. Obviously the voters in CT like this dude.

since he beat Lamont.

[ShockediSay]

38. Maybe the Repugs, maybe the Aipac Establishment $ together w/

the NeoCons, but no, not your average Nutmegger (Connecitcutter?)

[Hippo_Tron]

39. Yea, Lieberman won with the endorsement of the White House and the Connecticut GOP

He got the institutional support of the Republican Party without having to be a Republican. Had CT Republicans actually voted for Schlesinger, Lamont would've won.

[cui bono]

41. You do realize he lost to Lamont in the primaries and

that he only wont he general election with Republican support? The Repugs threw their candidate under the bus and actively supported this liar. Or did you miss that whole story?

[fuzzyball]

58. Ofcourse he lost democratic voters...what I said was CT voters

which includes all parties, liked him better than Lamont.
Which also means Lieberman is now an independent senator.
Which also means we need him badly to be in the majority
on every friggin vote in senate.

[CTLawGuy]

52. well he failed to get a majority of CT votes

he got 49.7% of the vote. Yes it beat Lamont by 10% but it's not a majority.

[fuzzyball]

59. yes, the voter turnout was pathetic as usual is this country. Even the Iraqi's

have a better turnout than us and they face bombs and guns.
Shame on our voters for being sloths.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

57. Its not that simple

He narrowly beat Lamont in the general mostly because the Repugs did not back their Candidate Alan Schlesinger. Once it came out that ALan had some old gambling problem history, they dropped him like a hot potato. The WH put its support behind LIEberman who used KKKarl Rovian campagin tactics including a $375,000 "Petty Cash" slush fund in his PAC that he did not have to give a full accounting of. Nope, I'm not over my anger yet.

[fuzzyball]

60. Is'nt it a shame that voters can be manipulated so easily..nt

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

62. Yes, it certainly is.

They were afraid to take a chance on Lamont who the media portrayed as a "Greenwich millionaire" giving the impression that he was buying a Senate seat. As a matter of fact, our state legislative Dem. leader, Amman, accused him of that in exactly those words in an editorial. Anyone who wanted to looks closer at him discovered that he had a good background having grown up in a family involved in public service over several generations. But the lazybrained just ate up what the MSM fed them.
It is very discouraging.

[HuffleClaw]

35. ugly stuff.

i suppose he got that from a white house speechwriter?

[xxqqqzme]

37. A true TRB!

Back in '02 I decided to call all pnac, neo-con, rong wing persons in this corrupt regime rat bastards, but it became too confusing - there were soooo many.

but I like TRB!

[cui bono]

40. He's looking to be on the R ticket in '08, I'm sure of it.

McLieberCain 2008

[tavalon]

45. We can only hope

Between The Kiss and The Hug, they are sunk already.

[eridani]

46. How fucking stupid can you get?

Yes, extremists are supported by Al Qaeda and Iran, but Al Qaeda is supporting the Sunnis, and Iran is supporting the Shi'ites. And if you haven't noticed, Sen. Dumbfuck, the Sunnis and Shi'ites are FIGHTING EACH OTHER!!!!!!!!!!

[Ghost in the Machine]

47. Did anyone else notice this?

From the 3rd paragraph in the OP:

I know there are deep differences of opinion about what the President has proposed tonight. In the coming days and weeks, we should undertake respectful debate and deliberation over this new plan. But, let us also remember that excessive partisan division and rancor at home only weakens our will to prevail in this war. I am particularly pleased that the President has taken the important and necessary step of creating a bi-partisan Consultative Group consisting of representatives and leaders of the Executive and Legislative branches to address issues related to the war against global terrorism.{emphasis mine}

So now it's a war on Global Terrorism? Does this mean that the War Criminal can now start a new war anywhere on the globe that he perceives as a threat?

This is the first time I've seen it called a Global War and it just kinda jumped out at me. Maybe it's old news and I missed it? :shrug:

edited: because my keyboard is tired right now and can't spell correctly...

[cui bono]

66. I've heard "global war on terror" many, many times from W and Co. nt

[tbyg52]

48. There went my coffee

When * announced that he would have a bipartisan advisory group including *Lieberman*! (Wasn't that the *only* name he mentioned? Sheesh.)

[qwlauren35]

51. Does he still claim to be a Democrat?

Just wondering...

[ieoeja]

65. He calls himself an "Independant-Democrat" n/t

[GeorgeGist]

55. In respect of his heritage...

he's a SCHMUCK.

[Hawkowl]

68. Thank you Lamont

Thank you Mr. Lamont for exorcising this treasonous demon from our party. At least democrats can hold their heads up now and disassociate themselves from this evil bastard.

[Pirate Smile]

69. True. I frequently think at least they can't say he represents Democrats like

they used to all the time - "Democrats are split", blah, blah.

He doesn't represent us anymore. Thank Goodness.

[Arugula Latte]

70. I think you are being soooo unfair.

Treasonous rat bastards everywhere have just taken major offense at being lumped in with that rancid piece of crap Lieberman.

[Bombtrack]

73. Actually Lieberman was born in the year of the horse, arch enemy of the Rat

Gore is a Rat though, being born in '48.

[DemBones DemBones]

76. Odd, considering that Joe is a rat. . . nt

[Imagevision]

77. It's obvious, Joe Lieberman is the replacement for Zel Miller

We may get to understand his Democrat support when Kennedy-Plan for up and down vote on going to Iraq will happen. - There are more republicans who stand against Bush's surge bullshit!

[NovaNardis]

81. He's not a rat bastard...

He's "principled".

[monarch]

82. Lamont voters are not going to go away

Keep up on CT politics with http://ctbob.blogspot.com/

[fooj]

83. Ok. A "principled" rat bastard.