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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:52 PM
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Question: If Hillary, Gore and Clark all run, how will they be able to attack each other?
All three of them will try and run on Bill Clinton's record in one way or another. However, if they attack each other (ie. if Hillary attacks Clark his record at NATO, then shes indirectly attacking her husband for appointing him) then they will simultaneously harm their own images. I'm wondering how they will reconcile this?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:54 PM
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1. Not a problem..
it can all be worked out ahead of time.
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SmellsLikeDeanSpirit Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:00 PM
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2. If that were to happen Edwards and Obama would be doing endzone celebrations...
while they destory each other.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:03 PM
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3. they shouldn't attack each other
they are all good candidates, let them attack the opposite side and let chips fall where they may

you know people can actually be in a contest with ea. other and not tear ea. other apart, this is the lesson we're supposed to learn from sport

hillary is not gonna attack clark on his record at NATO, just don't see it
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:05 PM
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4. They won't. Won't that be cool? A constructive rather than destructive debate?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:10 PM
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5. Gore and Clark could make an issue about flag burning...but...
...I don't see either of them completely disagreeing with her backing of making it a federal crime to burn the flag.

Perhaps Clark could do a better job at explaining that the flag is a symbol and that the First Amendment stands as a stronger force to fight for.

Both Gore and Clark could gang up on Mrs. Clinton about the war...it all depends who fires the first shot...
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:13 PM
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6. I was talking more about their resumes and histories
But yeah, if all three run, then I would assume that they will try to avoid attacking each other too much...but still.:-(
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dad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:13 AM
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13. What are you talking about?
Clark is in favor of a constitutional amendment against flag burning.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:00 PM
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18. Wow...really?
Where's my big magic marker...cross that name off....done.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 04:36 PM
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21. If it's that easy, Edwards said he hates 'librelz'!
Keep that marker handy, I'll be here all night!

By the way, Clark said this: "I'm absolutely in favor of anything that strengthens the flag," which to me is an understanably emotional response by a veteran who has led men to combat under the flag in question.

You can read another view here: http://avc.blogs.com/a_vc/2003/11/wes_clark.html

"He said that free speech is a constitutional right and he recognized all the reasons why there may never be constituional protection for the flag. But he's fought under the flag, seen men come home in coffins draped in the flag, and he knows how much the flag means to people. He said symbols are powerful things in our society. And so if all the things required to get a constitutional amendment passed on this issue were to happen, he'd be happy to sign it. I can't argue with that logic."

He has specifically stated that he wouldn't push for the amendment, but would happily sign it if it reached him. He has his own feelings on the subject, who doesn't, but he isn't about to force them on us.

I really respect your opinions, I read a lot that you said the other day about caucuses, bu I'd give Clark some more consideration I guess if I were you and not rely on drive-by "did you know"'s to form your opinion.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:48 PM
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22. Anyone who is for banning someone from burning a flag is no friend of mine
I don't care if they fought in battles...if they think that an American flag is more important than the reason why we are proud and fighting for the freedom to do so, then they just don't get what America is all about.

There is NO slippage or excuses whatsoever when it comes to that. If someone cannot have the freedom to dissent, then democracy is simply dead.

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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:14 PM
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7. Clark will run on Clinton's record? Why would he need to do that?
I think his own resume is plenty solid.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:25 PM
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9. His resume and biggest accomplishments are linked to Clinton's foreign policy
So they share the same record in several areas, like Kosovo. It was also Clinton who helped elevate him to Supreme Allied Commander of NATO.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:45 AM
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14. Unlike politicos
generals have to earn their stars.

I think it was Shalli who wanted Clark for the joint chiefs J-5 position. But it was Clark who performed brilliantly at Dayton. Holbrook said although Clark acted relaxed, that Clark had plenty of pressure riding on him to succeed. It was that performance not Bill Clinton that earned Clark his forth star.

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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:50 AM
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15. Agreed. Clark needs no one's coattails.
That was my (admittedly indirect) point.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 06:36 PM
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24. Merit vs Rubber-chicken
34 year record, a Rhodes, survived four bullets, and on and on, and Ignacio Upton bases Wes Clark's record on Clinton's. Good grief!

I agree with your point, I just am puzzled by the rest of this thread. So the Clintons are responsible for Clark's ability to think. Well, I can think too, and I don't think so.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 06:03 AM
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12. .......
:hide:
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:19 PM
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8. They wouldn't.
You may say I'm a dreamer, but I think all 3 of them are good enough, smart enough and doggone it, they like each other. :silly:
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:27 PM
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10. I don't see Clinton & Gore running against each other.
They'll work out a deal early on. Otherwise, Gore will step in after Clinton goes down in a flaming blaze of glory after Iowa or one of the early primaries, and save the day, and get her endorsement and her war chest $$$$.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 06:02 AM
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11. I'm not sure they'll be able to. They'll have to distinguish themselves in other
ways. Different styles, different ideas.

LOL different ideas...imagine that. ;)
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:55 AM
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16. let me see.....isn't Clark the one who stated
that unless Democrats stopped attacking one another, and until they did, no one would take us seriously??? I don't see Clark attacking a fellow Democrat...period...and I don't see him needing to run on Clinton's record for anything...He is man enough to run on his own...he doesn't need any props...How the rest of them act, of course, is up to them...
windbreeze
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 11:14 AM
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17. Just read DU
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:13 PM
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19. Let's see, Gore gave us the Internet, he opposed the war from the moment it was suggested
He's singlehandedly changed the international debate about global warming (so far - - his efforts may even turn it around), he was the first major pol to work with MoveOn.org, he opposed every single one of Bush's assaults on civil liberties, he is responsible for getting nukes out of the former Soviet Union (rather than letting terrorists snap them up), he reduced the size of the federal government, he gave us the national organ donor network, he's an internationally recognized leader in arms reduction, I could literally go on for hours...

He's the only one of the three who's actually served as an executive - - and he's the only one who's served in the House, the Senate and the executive.

He's a wildly successful businessman - - he runs an investment firm that only invests in sustainable businesses, and he's made a profit on his cable company in one year, which is almost unheard of in the entertainment industry...

He's got two best selling books and the fourth highest grossing documentary of all time.

Gore's resume is unbeatable. Neither Hillary Clinton nor Wesley Clark have anything close to it. They cannot prove that they can deliver in the White House. Gore can.

And he's way funnier, charismatic and charming than either of the others. (Sorry, it's true.)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:30 PM
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20. Excellent post,
however, I thought "An Inconvenient Truth" was the third highest grossing documentary?
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:52 PM
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23. You're right, my bad. It is the 3rd highest grossing doc
And just won two of the earliest "pre-Oscar" awards for best documentary...
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