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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 06:53 PM
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We Are All Torturer's Now!-- Disgusting torture taking place WARNING
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 06:59 PM
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1. Wow. Boy out tax dollars are disturbingly spent...WTF!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:02 PM
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3. Everyone should see this
And make sure they never rest until the people responsible are behind bars.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:01 PM
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2. I want to cry
Edited on Tue Dec-05-06 07:01 PM by Infinite Hope
That's all there is to say. :cry:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:03 PM
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4. I dont agree with torture of any kind......
but the war-criminal monkeyboy should have that done to him 10 times a day for the rest of his miserable life:mad:
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AJ9000 Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:14 PM
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7. Oh but what about that ticking nuclear time-bomb this guy knows all about? nm
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:36 AM
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34. Yeah, funny thing about that...
turns out this guy was just an actor on "24". Oopsie!

:sarcasm:










I'm not trying to be flip, I'm just trying to deal with the horror and shame.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:06 PM
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5. no text
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:13 PM
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6. Very disturbing....but hopefully it can help draw attention to why torture is immoral ..n/t
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:15 PM
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8. I watched the first 2 seconds
and clicked out when the first scream was just beginning. How horrifying!

I can't even stand it for a moment. You'll have to take my word for it, for some, witnessing torture/abuse can be worse (or at least as bad) than enduring it.

Sickened,
Julie
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:25 AM
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33. I'll take your word for it Julie.
I already know I can't watch. :hug:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 01:52 PM
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38. Hey MzMolly!!
Good to see you! Hope it's all good in your world! :hi:

Julie
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 01:58 PM
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39. Backatcha J!
All is right with my world, thanks for asking. ;)

I hope the same for you and yours. :hi:
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:27 PM
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9. I couldn't listen to the screams long enough to read any of the
text. Do we know where this took place or who was responsible?

Very disturbing.
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:42 PM
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18. Who did this?
I want to know the same thing? What are the circumstances behind this? We Americans responsible?
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:46 PM
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10. K & R
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 08:00 PM
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11. horrifying
:( :grr:
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 08:18 PM
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12. k&r


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TheModernTerrorist Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 08:23 PM
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13. WHAT THE FUCKING HELL?!?!?!?!?!?!
send this to EVERY fucking congressperson, ASAP!
I'm so fucking tired of this shit!!!

EVERY NETWORK SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 08:33 PM
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14. And people don't understand why so many in the world
hate us!!!
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 08:38 PM
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15. What were they doing to the poor guy?
It was disturbing to see the pain on that dude's face. And those screams. Man my heart went out to him.

Blue
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 10:30 PM
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17. Sodomizing him with an object. (nt)
Edited on Tue Dec-05-06 10:31 PM by w4rma
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:26 PM
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21. It looked like a rifle
but I'm not going back to check.
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:43 AM
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22. Yes it is totally sickening to see something like that...
Now I like torture movies like "Hostel" only because I find that kind of dark psyche interesting. Plus, even though it makes you squirm, you know that the effects are not real and no one is actually getting hurt.
One does have to beg the question however if TV shows and movies such as "Hostel" are desensitizing these people and allowing this dark, abnormal psychology to override their moral attitudes about harming others. Or are these torturers actually psychopathic.

Like I said above, I am interested in humanity's dark psyche so watching this video, as disturbing as it is, has me questioning exactly what is going on in these tormentors' minds as they witnessed, and took part in this man's pain. What were they thinking? Did they think "What if that is me?" Did they think about that this could happen to their families, their loved ones. Or did they laugh and took perverse pleasure in seeing this man scream, beg and writhe on the floor as he was penetrated?

What could drive people to do this to others? Was it the pressure of "orders" or are these interrogators actually picked because they are known to take pleasure in hurting others. Are these people actually taught, brainwashed into thinking that their enemy is so vile that they deserve to be hurt thus helping to eliminate any guilt factor. After all history has shown that if a group of people are so despised and reviled, then it is ok to do all kinds of atrocities to them.

Questions... anyone care to share?

Sometimes shit like this gets me so depressed.

Blue

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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 01:36 AM
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23. looked like a broomstick to me.. n/t
Does anyone know where this was at? Guatanamo?

Blue
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 08:43 PM
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16. Tasteles? TASTELESS??
It's not tasteless, it's horrifying. I too could only watch about 2 seconds-- enough to understand what was happening to him, and to hear his screams. Unbelievable that humans can do this to other humans, or even cause any harm to animals for that matter.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:18 PM
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19. Warning! The video plays as soon as you open it!
Man, that's disgusting. Why is it that these tortures always emphasize sexual humiliation?

What kind of fucking monsters think that this is in ANY way something that NEEDS to be done???
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 11:24 PM
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20. Good God.
So this is what we've been spending $350 billion on?

I am more and more convinced that the Bush reign of torture will be vividly remembered for millennia, kind like King Herod, but with videos to prove it.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 01:41 PM
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37. We have been bankrupted (financially and morally) for "national security"
We've spent hundreds of billions of dollars for a defense that couldn't prevent Sept. 11th or even successfully scramble jets for it. Beyond Shock and Awe, exactly what do we have to show for our empty purse? Back when the bad apple in chief was still saying "we don't torture," the CIA types were saying that torture was not only immoral, it didn't work. Someone being sodomized might make up shit, so the intelligence gained wouldn't be any good. Yet, apparently, that's our policy because of some whacked theory about a unitary executive being able to do anything his alcohol-addled mind thinks might "keep us safe." This is so not keeping us safe. We're spending billions and billions on a privatized military complex that is clearly out of control.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 02:17 AM
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24. Please send this link to all Air America and Pacifica radio hosts
Here's what I just sent to Mike Malloy:
Mike,

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15740.htm

This video was posted on DU today. It's a recording of an Arab man being sodomized by a broomstick as part of a US interrogation program. To say that the video is sickening is an understatement. I only managed to watch a few seconds of it and I still feel like vomiting 4 hours later.

People need to know what's being done in our name. The FCC won't let news outlets show the pictures of this war crime, but the screams of this poor man are enough to chill anyone's blood.

Make people listen to it. Anyone who can sit by and not fight this psychotic regime should be forced to listen to these screams 24/7. People need to know. We can't let this continue.

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 02:43 AM
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25. I don't believe in capital punishment . . . but my initial reaction to this . . .
is that the perpetrators should be taken out and shot . . . AFTER they've had a taste of their own medicine . . . (it's the same kind of visceral reaction I have when people mistreat animals) . . .

absolutely disgusting and thoroughly horrifying -- and MY government is doing it! . . .
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:16 AM
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26. Was that man trying to make the guy say "God" instead of "Allah"?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 07:20 AM
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27. You do realize they were doing this BEFORE the bill
Bush just wanted to formalize it. If anything, now that it's passed we can get this thing to the courts and expose just what tortore entails and get this forever banned
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 07:27 AM
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28. Totally sickening video
but unfortunately important even on DU.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 08:34 AM
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29. K&R - I am sickened and horrified...
I wasn't expecting it to begin playing as soon as I clicked on it, and so was mentally unprepared for it. We need to send this to every news outlet, every talk show. I think if someone had the nerve to play this on TV almost every person in this country would barf at the same time. They've been brainwashed into thinking the alleged torture is no worse than 'hazing', and if they saw something like this they would know the truth. Middle America would NOT approve of this.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 09:20 AM
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30. Send it to K.O.
If anyone has the guts to play it, it's Olbermann.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 09:26 AM
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31. I agree with everything said so far on this thread, but . . .
how do we know it is a part of "our" rendition program? Did I miss something?

Both the voices seem Arabic - so how do we know "we" had something to do it?
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 09:57 AM
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32. More, from Channel 4
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:11 PM
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35. .....
I'm sure the Glen Beck fan club approves
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 01:15 PM
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36. Gosh do we suck. American Evil, courtesy of the GOP.
May they get what's coming to them for doing this.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 05:44 PM
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40. This should be sent immediately to W.. He needs to see it. The
creep has been protected from public opinion and the terror that results from his actions.
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