WTF is up with Tiki Barber?

[joeprogressive]

I just saw him whoring himself on Fox and Friends and he was playing into their little right wing games. Is he really that conservative or is he just selling out to break into broadcasting? I used to really respect the guy but after his performance this morning I really have my doubts.

[shaniqua6392]

1. He has been on there quite a bit

and he seems to fit in well with the Faux News propaganda machine. He is a repuke through and through.

[joeprogressive]

3. That is so disappointing

I'm still not totally convinced he is not just playing the part to advance his career.

[shaniqua6392]

5. The Repukes are collecting black people.

They are also trying to sway the hispanic vote to their side. They could care less about the issues that both of these groups are facing. Just my humble opinion.

[fuzzyball]

47. Do we as democrats have a monopoly on Black people?

I think not. No race is that monolithic. I would very much
prefer if there were abundent people of every race in every
party. That shows we are all "thinking" people.

[GeorgeGist]

8. and your lack of total conviction...

mitigates his behavior?

[joeprogressive]

10. No, but giving him a little benefit of the doubt.

It was the first time I had seen him in that arena. Most of us have done things that compromised our beliefs to a certain degree in order to advance ourselves.

[EST]

11. Informed opinion or simply speculation?

"Most of us have done things that compromised our beliefs to a certain degree in order to advance ourselves."

I know of very few who fit this notion. I desperately hope you are wrong.

[joeprogressive]

12. It could be as little as biting your tongue in front of your boss or

as major as spewing something you don't believe to make money. Either way it is a form of selling out and you are naive to think it doesn't happen every day and affects most people.

[FiveGoodMen]

58. THAT would make him a Repuke, through and through!

"I'm still not totally convinced he is not just playing the part to advance his career."

[Dude_CalmDown]

59. Playing the part to advance a career is not something only the pukes do.

How many times have you had to hold your nose as you cast your vote for a "Democrat" - I do it just about every single time I vote.

[FiveGoodMen]

66. Choosing the lesser of two evils is not the same as playing a part to advance your career.

In one case you're doing the best you can under the circumstances. In the other, you're screwing over someone else to get what you want. (Of course there are Dems who do that, too -- and we need to get rid of them.)

[Cosmocat]

45. I saw a bit ...

with him and them a week or two back ... They have this obnoxious little weasel guy, dark curly hair ... Get this, no lie ... He went on with a story about how he burned himself that morning with his hot latte ... NO SHIITE ... A decade and a half of Rush Limbaugh and company railed NONSTOP about Latte drinking liberals, and this little puke whinning around about how he burned himself with a latte ...

These people are just freakin insane ...

As for Tiki, I got the sense that morning that he felt he was above the rest of the "Fox and Friends" ... He didn't say much anything of substance, and they pretty much kissed his butt ... That he is doing Fox, I don't know about his "personal" thoughts or philosophy, but as most noted, it strikes me as a opportunistic thing ...

Whatever ...

[IndianaGreen]

2. Another Lynn Swann in the making?

He better concentrate on the Giants playoff prospects.

[joeprogressive]

9. I was a huge Steeler fan as a young boy.

I got to have dinner with Swann during that time. I was crushed to find out he was a repuke. It must be a money thing.

[sutz12]

4. I don't know about Tiki...

but my Seattle Seahawks are flat out overrun with Christians. I try to ignore it and just watch the games. Most of them are fairly discreet about it. I can't remember that I've ever heard one of them say any political comments.

[joeprogressive]

6. I guess we learned that in Missouri people favored McCaskill's

policies over those of right wing Christian nut job quarterbacks like Kurt Warner.

[Ken Burch]

39. And, of course, the Seahawks gave us

Congressman Steve Largent(R-Jesusland).

[Renew Deal]

69. I went to a Seahawks game last year.

Some guy had a sign out front that said "Trust Jesus." I told him that I trust Jesus, but not people like him.

[joeprogressive]

7. I think he is making a big mistake.

Someone like Tiki has the potential to have broad appeal. By choosing to be a partisan hack on Fox he is going to piss off the majority of Americans.

[Doctor_J]

22. By choosing to be a black republican he is guaranteed

rapid advancement to hours of prime face time at the RNC, on Fox, on football telecasts, and on political ads.

[gr8dane_daddy]

13. I think Tiki suffered a concussion that went undiagnosed...

after losing to my Cowboys this weekend.

[blueknight]

14. tiki has already said

that this will be his last season playing,and that he wanted to get into tv.maybe he is using fox for practice:shrug:

[zbdent]

19. So, he has no interest in doing serious TV?

Appearing in almost total fiction stuff ... once in a great while, he might actually participate in something based on a true story?

[spooky3]

16. haha! Are we saying he should "shut up and run"?

I know we're not. We just want him to be one of us. Let's win him over.

[hughee99]

15. Was he talking about politics or football? n/t

[joeprogressive]

20. mostly politics

He talked about illegal immigration with a conservative bent then said that the US was founded by Judeo-Christian values and that was why it was OK to mix church and state.

[Red Zelda]

17. Pro jocks are the perfect republicans

lots of money and no brains

[BoneDaddy]

18. Being a Giant fan

and an all around fan of Tiki I would like to know what he said, or is simply being affiliated with Fox, the reason for concern?

[joeprogressive]

29. He was repeating all the republican talking points.

Sorry, I don't have the transcript.

[BoneDaddy]

35. That is a shame

I really liked Tiki.

[Doctor_J]

21. Black repub = lots of face time. And why are you watching Fox?

and why are you surprised that someone who makes $5M/yr playing football is a winger?

[joeprogressive]

23. I get really tired of that comment "why were you watching Fox"

I believe I have watched Fox and Friends 4-6 times b/c I like to see what bullshit they are spewing. Today as I was surfing I noticed Tiki and decided to watch for a few minutes. I have called in twice on the Sunday morning show to shake things up a bit. Don't you want to be informed about what the enemy is doing and saying? I mean Sun Tzu was not a stupid man.

[fuzzyball]

46. I also Watch Fox cuz to not know your adversary is the dumbest

mistake anyone can make.

[Doctor_J]

53. Yeah, right

Let's all watch Fox 24/7 then we'll REALLY know our adversary


:wtf:

[ellenfl]

24. he fancies himself part of the upper 1%. he is delusional

if he thinks he would be accepted there if he hadn't been glorified by sports.

ellen fl

[Jennicut]

25. My football loving hubby detests Tiki

He has turned out to be a pompous ass and he can't stand him anymore. He has seen interviews where Tiki thinks he will be a big time broadcaster, stepping over people who have has years of experience. The fact that he was whoring himself on Fox will make hubby like him even less! Being in Connecticut, I grew up a Giants fan but switched to the Patriots when I met my husband in college. Tom Brady is a republican but he doesn't go around trumpeting it. What a jerk Tiki is. But he fits in on a team with Jeremy Shockey "I hate gays" on it.

[underpants]

28. Is there any proof that Brady is a Republican?

I have heard that mention several times on this board but I haven't been able to find any proof of it. I hope that his appearance at a SOTU speech isn't the basis for this.

[rinsd]

32. On this board that's enough of a "betrayal".

When I googled him and republican, I saw that apparently he is undeclared in his CA voter registration, that he is interested in running for office and that he once said he admired Gerald Ford.

I haven't even seen with the OP is talking about but I can guarantee its been exaggerrated.

Of course all of this is fairly ridiculous anyway.

[Rockholm]

37. I highly doubt that Brady is a puke.

He was totally used in his appearance the the SOTU. There was some story a while back as to why he was there. I heard that he was none to pleased to be there.

[rinsd]

31. Tiki is a popuous ass? LOL.

Tiki is one of the most understated guys out there.

And for all your husband's principles I am sure he rooted on Curt Schilling on last season.

Its not a political litmus test, its another arrow in the quiver in sports trash talk.

[underpants]

36. Don't forget Jason Sehorn and his wife at the Republican convention

Oh and Welcome to DU if'n I haven't before.

[Killarney]

50. Brady is not a Republican

I saw an interview where he was asked and he said he is not a Republican. They asked him about the SOTU and he said, "I'm not a Republican but when the President asks you to do something, you do it." I get the feeling he's independent/undeclared but not a fan of Bush.

[oasis]

26. In time, Tiki will be another rat clamoring to leave the sinking GOP ship. Even

Pigboy Limbaugh declared that he is relieved not to carry water for them any longer.

[rinsd]

27. He's been on Fox & Friends for awhile.

He's been doing Tuesdays for at least this season.

He wants to get into broadcasting, not just sports. Fox and Friends has given him a shot at doing that.

"I used to really respect the guy but after his performance this morning I really have my doubts."

To each his own. I could give two shits about what an athlete, movie star, musician etc has to say about politics in terms of whether I enjoy them or not.

[Mike Daniels]

42. Not quite sure why anyone gives any weight to what any entertainer thinks

Without argument, they have the right to speak their mind but I sure as hell don't look to them, be they conservative or liberal, for any deep insight on the issues of the day.

Simply, I've yet to hear any actor, athelete, etc. (outside of perhaps Bono) state anything political that wasn't some just some generic platitude or talking point from the cause of the month's press releases.

[rinsd]

43. Agreed.

Celebrities should feel free to to speak out just don't expect me to assign it a higher value than the guy at the pub.

[underpants]

30. (LOL) watch an interview with ACLU lawyer so bad Fox cuts to commercial

3:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwsGcCiAElM

[joeprogressive]

33. As I suspected he is one of their hacks.

Benefit of the doubt gone, he should have retired from football then taken a sports announcer position. Now that he is on Fox News playing by their rules, he is fair game.

[underpants]

34. Peter King of SI and Inside the NFL said that Tiki will be on TV news...

next year. Probably a morning show. I would assume that means Fox.

[tishaLA]

40. LOL! That's hysterical!

He can't even formulate a question without looking at his note cards. The script is pre-prepared

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

38. I don't care, as long as he can play football this season.

GO BIG BLUE!

[SmellsLikeDeanSpirit]

41. Tiki sucks, Brandon Jacobs is a beast!

[RedStateShame]

44. Tiki's the perfect right-wing pundit!

He fills a suit, and he failed at his real job.

OK, Tiki defenders, how many Super Bowl rings does he have?

Right. I've seen this guy do the New York Fox affiliate news before. All the charm and eloquence of pocket lint.

I posted this previously in another thread, but I thought this one was more relevant.

[Mike Daniels]

48. Might as well say that Peyton Manning failed at his real job

if a Super Bowl ring on your finger is the only measure of success.

While we're at it, The Hall of Fame might as well scrap a good portion of its displays because a significant portion of them are dedicated to people that failed at their job by your definition. (sarcasm)

[RedStateShame]

49. Maybe not in Indy, but if you're playing any pro sport in NY and you don't win it all...

...you've failed. Is it fair? Hardly, except they do play in a market with a lot more media exposure, and often for owners with much deeper wallets. Go ask A-Rod. So, yeah, I'll judge Tiki Barber by those same standards, given that he's barely the best running back in his division, but his retirement is being treated as if it should be seen as some "end-of-an-era" crap.

[rinsd]

56. Ummm that's the Yankees not NY sports in general.

See Knicks, Rangers, Giants & Jets history which is not a winning one. With the Yankees, its the WS ring or the season is a failure.

Jets and Giants fans will be excstatic if their teams make the playoffs. Knicks fans will know to reduce the dosage ;-)

"given that he's barely the best running back in his division"

LOL. He's been one of the best if not the best back in the league for 3 years now.

Who are you thinking of that's better?

"his retirement is being treated as if it should be seen as some "end-of-an-era" crap."

Because he's only 31 and its rare for an athlete to retire before the end of his prime.

[Hard_Work]

68. just hadda say...

LOL. He's been one of the best if not the best back in the league for 3 years now.

Who are you thinking of that's better?

LaDanian Tomlinson comes immediately to mind, however it is not my intent to thread jack. Now back to our originally scheduled thread...

[politicasista]

52. Now Peyton is a Republican

He donated money to Bob Corker's (TN) senate campaingn.

[Dude_CalmDown]

60. Um yeah Peyton Manning has failed at his real job.

He's not getting paid to get to the playoffs every year and blow it in spectacular fashion the moment he has a little pressure - he's actually getting paid to take his team to and win a superbowl - something in which he has failed miserably at. There is simply no quarterback at any level that sucks nearly as much ass as Peyton Manning does in any game of significance. Sorry but he has failed at his job over and over and over again.

And no I don't believe you need a ring to be considered a success but you can't say someone hasn't failed at their job when they have the team year after year to win the superbowl and when it comes to do their part on the team in the playoffs, they completely shut down.

[rinsd]

54. Failed at his real job?

"OK, Tiki defenders, how many Super Bowl rings does he have?"

Spoken like someone truly clueless, I believe its called a Theismann. I suppose Trent Dilfer is a HOFer in your book.

[politicasista]

51. I don't think he is a Republican

I am not a fan of his either, but he was at a Kerry/Edwards fundraiser at Radio City Music all in 04.

[rep the dems]

55. I guess when your team is going down, it's best to go on a network

that's also going down.

[SmellsLikeDeanSpirit]

57. They could replace O' Riles with Jeremy Shockey.

[primative1]

61. Sports Celebs are such a turn off

My interest in sports has been dropping for some time but it reached zero in 2004 after Curt Schilling followed up the world series win by whoring himself for Bush.
That was the last straw for me.
How exciting is it to watch some slob make a million dollars a night for playing a game? Rah, rah ... think Ill go get me another 12 dollar beer. Hope its piss warm again.
Rather than have attitudes you might at least think there would be just a dab of humility in these saps. But ... nah.
If ever there was a class of people designed to be taxed at 90% or higher it is sports celbs and hollywood types.

[SmellsLikeDeanSpirit]

62. Brett Favre indorsed Dubbya in 2004

...but I'll let that slide since I have such a mancrush on Favre.

[a kennedy]

65. I have a womancrush on Brett.......

and did he really endorse " * " ???? D*mn. :patriot:

[Jennicut]

63. Glad to hear Brady isn't really a Repub

Makes me like hime even more! He seems like a real sweet guy and I was dissapointed when I heard from people and on t.v. that he was a Bush supporter. Guess you can't trust what you see or hear.:) I am dissapointed in Peyton Manning though. Giving to Corker? Yuck!

[wiley]

64. He's very confused

[libneo]

67. Who is Tiki Barber? Why are we talking about him? (nt)