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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:43 AM
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The IWR: Who knew what and Bush's manipulation of the evidence
Gore's speech was based on Bush's proposed resolution:

Nevertheless, Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction...

We also need to look at the relationship between our national goal of regime change in Iraq and our goal of victory in the war against terror. In the case of Iraq, it would be more difficult for the United States to succeed alone, but still possible. By contrast, the war against terror manifestly requires broad and continuous international cooperation. Our ability to secure this kind of cooperation can be severely damaged by unilateral action against Iraq.

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Specifically, Congress should establish why the president believes that unilateral action will not severely damage the fight against terrorist networks, and that preparations are in place to deal with the effects of chemical and biological attacks against our allies, our forces in the field, and even the home-front. The resolution should also require commitments from the President that action in Iraq will not be permitted to distract from continuing and improving work to reconstruct Afghanistan, an that the United States will commit to stay the course for the reconstruction of Iraq.

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Kerry cited Bush's resolution, and clearly stated that the resolution was revised to specifically address Iraq (nothing to do with distractions or rebuilding as Gore suggested, but everthing to do with ensuring that war was a last resort):

I want to underscore that this administration began this debate with a resolution that granted exceedingly broad authority to the President to use force. I regret that some in the Congress rushed so quickly to support it. I would have opposed it. It gave the President the authority to use force not only to enforce all of the U.N. resolutions as a cause of war, but also to produce regime change in Iraq , and to restore international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region. It made no mention of the President's efforts at the United Nations or the need to build multilateral support for whatever course of action we ultimately would take.

I am pleased that our pressure, and the questions we have asked, and the criticisms that have been raised publicly, the debate in our democracy has pushed this administration to adopt important changes, both in language as well as in the promises that they make.

The revised White House text, which we will vote on, limits the grant of authority to the President to the use of force only with respect to Iraq . It does not empower him to use force throughout the Persian Gulf region. It authorizes the President to use Armed Forces to defend the ``national security'' of the United States--a power most of us believe he already has under the Constitution as Commander in Chief. And it empowers him to enforce all ``relevant'' Security Council resolutions related to Iraq. None of those resolutions or, for that matter, any of the other Security Council resolutions demanding Iraqi compliance with its international obligations, calls for a regime change.

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As the President made clear earlier this week, ``Approving this resolution does not mean that military action is imminent or unavoidable.'' It means ``America speaks with one voice.''

Let me be clear, the vote I will give to the President is for one reason and one reason only: To disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, if we cannot accomplish that objective through new, tough weapons inspections in joint concert with our allies.

Page: S10173


Missing Weapons Of Mass Destruction: Is Lying About The Reason For War An Impeachable Offense?

By JOHN W. DEAN
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Friday, Jun. 06, 2003

Senator Graham seems to believe there is a serious chance that it is the final scenario that reflects reality. Indeed, Graham told CNN "there's been a pattern of manipulation by this administration."

Graham has good reason to complain. According to the New York Times, he was one of the few members of the Senate who saw the national intelligence estimate that was the basis for Bush's decisions. After reviewing it, Senator Graham requested that the Bush Administration declassify the information before the Senate voted on the Administration's resolution requesting use of the military in Iraq.

But rather than do so, CIA Director Tenet merely sent Graham a letter discussing the findings. Graham then complained that Tenet's letter only addressed "findings that supported the administration's position on Iraq," and ignored information that raised questions about intelligence. In short, Graham suggested that the Administration, by cherrypicking only evidence to its own liking, had manipulated the information to support its conclusion.

Recent statements by one of the high-level officials privy to the decisionmaking process that lead to the Iraqi war also strongly suggests manipulation, if not misuse of the intelligence agencies. Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, during an interview with Sam Tannenhaus of Vanity Fair magazine, said: "The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason." More recently, Wolfowitz added what most have believed all along, that the reason we went after Iraq is that "(t)he country swims on a sea of oil."

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Why A Special Prosecutor's Investigation Is Needed To Sort Out the Niger Uranium And Related WMDs Mess

By JOHN W. DEAN
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Friday, Jul. 18, 2003

Purported Bush Fact 1: "The United Nations concluded in 1999 that Saddam Hussein had biological weapons materials sufficient to produce over 25,000 liters of anthrax - enough doses to kill several million people. He hasn't accounted for that material. He has given no evidence that he has destroyed it. "

Source: Bush cites 1999 Report to the UN Security Council]. But most all the Report's numbers are estimates, in which UNSCOM had varying degrees of confidence.

Snip…

It short, in the State of the Union, the president transformed UNSCOM estimates, guesses, and approximations into a declaration of an exact amounts, which is a deception. He did the same with his statement about Botulinum toxin.

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Purported Bush Fact 2: "The Union Nations concluded that Saddam Hussein had materials sufficient to produce more than 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin - enough to subject millions of people to death by respiratory failure. He hasn't accounted for that material. He has given no evidence that he has destroyed it."

Source: Bush cited the same UNSCOM Report. Again, he transformed estimates, or best guesses - based on the work of the UNSCOM inspectors and informants of uncertain reliability - into solid fact.

Snip…

Purported Bush Fact 4: "U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents. Inspectors recently turned up 16 of them, despite Iraq's recent declaration denying their existence. Saddam Hussein has not accounted for the remaining 29,984 of these prohibited munitions. He has given no evidence that he has destroyed them."

Source: Bush cites "U.S. intelligence" for this information, but it appears to have first come from UNSCOM. If so, he seems to have double the number of existing munitions that might be, as he argued "capable of delivering chemical agents."

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Purported Bush Fact 5: "From three Iraqi defectors we know that Iraq, in the late 1990s, had several mobile biological weapons labs. These are designed to produce germ warfare agents, and can be moved from place to place to evade inspectors. Saddam Hussein has not disclosed these facilities. He has given no evidence that he has destroyed them."

Source: The three informants have still not been identified - even though the Administration now has the opportunity to offer asylum to them and their families, and then to disclose their identities, or at least enough identifying information for the public to know that they actually exist, and see why the government was prone to believe them.

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Purported Bush Fact 6: "The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed in the 1990s that Saddam Hussein had an advanced nuclear weapons development program, had a design for a nuclear weapon and was working on five different methods of enriching uranium for a bomb."

Source: The IAEA did provide some information to this effect, but the IAEA's own source was Iraq itself. According to Garry B. Dillon, the 1997-99 head of IAEA's Iraq inspection team, Iraq was begrudgingly cooperating with UNSCOM and IAEA inspections until August 1998.

Moreover, a crucial qualifier was left out: Whatever the program looked like in the early or mid-1990s, by 1998, the IAEA was confident it was utterly ineffective.

Snip…

Purported Bush Fact 7: "The British government has learned Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Source: Media accounts have shown that the uranium story was untrue - and that at least some in the Bush Administration knew it. I will not reiterate all of the relevant news reports here, but I will highlight a few.

Snip…

Purported Bush Fact 8: "Our intelligence sources tell us that has attempted to purchase high strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."

Source: Bush is apparently referring to the CIA's October 2002 report - but again, qualifiers were left out, to transform a statement of belief into one of purported fact.

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A Fig Leaf Of Legality

John Prados
May 02, 2005

John Prados is a senior fellow with the National Security Archive in Washington, DC. He is author of Hoodwinked: The Documents That Reveal How Bush Sold Us a War (The New Press).

It has been rumored that the brief, antiseptic legal opinion—citing that a legal basis for the Iraq war did exist—that British Prime Minister Tony Blair received from his attorney general, Lord Goldsmith, did not actually reflect the advice of the top British government lawyer. That turns out to be true.

Last week, when portions of Lord Goldsmith’s original opinion began to leak, the prime minister’s office rushed to release the original document. Goldsmith’s advice, rendered in a baker’s dozen of pages of closely reasoned text on March 7, 2003, diverges significantly from his previously released single-page approval for war. But its greatest significance is that the Goldsmith opinion puts before the public legal reasoning that undermines the justification in international law Bush used to wage an aggressive war against Iraq. That, in turn, negates Bush’s Congressional authorization to use force.

Lord Goldsmith’s opinion strips the legal arguments down to their core and shows how flawed they were. These can be addressed in five areas, and a few further points on legality this side of the Atlantic will complete the story.

Foremost is the matter of the U.N. Security Council action (Resolution 1441) passed on Nov. 8, 2002. Debate has long raged over whether 1441—by itself or in combination with earlier Security Council resolutions enacted during and after the Gulf War—authorized a resort to force against Iraq. Lord Goldsmith supplies an exhaustive analysis of the operative paragraphs of Resolution 1441 that shows how it required further U.N. action to approve force.

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Finally, there is the broad principle of proportionality. Force used against Iraq in service of the U.N. resolutions “must have as its objective the enforcement of the terms of the cease-fire ,” needed to be limited to achieving that objective, and had to be proportional to “securing compliance with Iraq’s disarmament obligations.” In other words, Goldsmith explicitly noted, “regime change cannot be the objective of military action.”

George Bush sought a congressional resolution authorizing force and secured it on Oct. 10, 2002. That resolution explicitly restricted the use of force to compelling adherence with “relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions,” and continuing threats from Iraq. This was not a blanket declaration of war. The resolution’s contingent authority evaporates if its conditions are not met.

We now know that Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction and very little in the way of programs to develop them. That is why the weapons inspectors, quite rightly, were not going to report a material breach—the inspectors could find no evidence of weapons. Iraq was in compliance with the Gulf War resolutions and had not invaded anyone—hence no threat to international peace and security. Washington’s assertion otherwise remained crucial to cover an aggressive war with a fig leaf of legality. That fig leaf has now disappeared.



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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 10:46 AM
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1. Hey, you're spoiling all the fun!
We were just getting ready to blame Dems for the entire mess!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 11:16 AM
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2. one more thing you should add: then Sen. Graham from Fla
I believe wrote an op-ed at the time (he was then Chair of the Sen Intel Committee, I believe) about the wrong war at the wrong time - his point was about the dangers posed by the real threat (al qeada) and the diversion that the trumped up fake threat of Iraq would (and HAS) diminish the efforts against those who did strike the US.

While some would not agree with his posturing (he was posturing a strong action - and strong presidential authority to act against threats) - his stated reasons for not supporting the IWR were strong - and subsequently seem to have been very much on the mark.

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 11:49 AM
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3. Sen. Graham: "What I Knew Before the Invasion"
What I Knew Before the Invasion


By Bob Graham

Sunday, November 20, 2005; Page B07

In the past week President Bush has twice attacked Democrats for being hypocrites on the Iraq war. "ore than 100 Democrats in the House and Senate, who had access to the same intelligence, voted to support removing Saddam Hussein from power," he said.

The president's attacks are outrageous. Yes, more than 100 Democrats voted to authorize him to take the nation to war. Most of them, though, like their Republican colleagues, did so in the legitimate belief that the president and his administration were truthful in their statements that Saddam Hussein was a gathering menace -- that if Hussein was not disarmed, the smoking gun would become a mushroom cloud

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From my advantaged position, I had earlier concluded that a war with Iraq would be a distraction from the successful and expeditious completion of our aims in Afghanistan. Now I had come to question whether the White House was telling the truth -- or even had an interest in knowing the truth.

On Oct. 11, I voted no on the resolution to give the president authority to go to war against Iraq. I was able to apply caveat emptor. Most of my colleagues could not.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/18/AR2005111802397.html
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 12:57 PM
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9. "The shame of former Senator Bob Graham"
Excellent comments of Graham's article:

"Something is terribly wrong here. Bob Graham was a chief intelligence watchdog not only for the American people but for the Senate itself. I realize that by law he was not permitted to reveal the classified sections of the report. But he should have insisted that the contrary views presented by the Departments of State and Energy be made public. (They were not based upon information provided by operatives. They were based upon technical assessments.) Failing that, he should have gone public with the information.

Graham, as a Senator, could not even have been indicted for revealing classified information so long as he presented the information on the Senate floor. The worst that could have ensued is that he would have been stripped of his assignment on the Intelligence Committee. But if an open debate followed after he made the information public, that is unlikely."

http://simplyappalling.blogspot.com/2005/11/shame-of-former-senator-bob-graham.html


Even if he was too wimpy to reveal what he knew, didn't any Senator ask why Bob Graham, in his privileged position, was voting against this war?
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 12:07 PM
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4. very disturbing words from Kerry
i'm not here to bash Kerry ... frankly i think most of the Kerry bashing on DU has been moronic ... his possible candidacy should NOT be determined by a botched joke or even by issues about whether he should or should not have contested the last election ... my two cents are that we should decide on candidates using more important issues ... the integrity of the voting process IS an important issue but whether a case in Ohio was to be made remains to be seen ... and finally, I have forgiven those who voted for the IWR but I do not forgive their current "continue the war and the occupation" positions ... NOTHING can be achieved in Iraq with bush in the WH ... absolutely f'ing nothing ... got that? do you think otherwise? if you do, let's hear it ... explain very clearly what you think can and will be accomplished WITH BUSH IN THE WH that makes spending even one more day in Iraq the right thing to do ... come on, out with it!!

but this comment Kerry made (posted above in the OP) is very, very disturbing ... i'll go further and call it a "how dare he" comment ... excerpted from the above statement was this Kerry gem:

"Approving this resolution does not mean that military action is imminent or unavoidable." It means "America speaks with one voice."

excuse me, but what kind of crap is that??? when i called Kerry's office before the IWR vote to ask that he vote against it, I was told that Kerry's calls were running 20:1 against the IWR ... 20 to f'ing 1 !!!

exactly what "America speaks with one voice" was the good Senator speaking about? how dare he sweep so many of us under the rug!! not only did he fail to represent the wishes of his own constituency and the wishes of the anti-war left, but he made a statement pretending we didn't even exist ... very poor form Senator ... very poor form indeed ..
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 12:29 PM
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8. Excellent point -- Kerry was far from the only offender on that
Edited on Sun Dec-03-06 12:31 PM by jgraz
That's one of the things that really made my blood boil during that vote. I'm on the other side of the country protesting it, trying to get it defeated, and politicians are not only cravenly putting their jobs above the lives of the troops, they're telling the world that I approve of it.

And people ask why it's so hard to forgive on this issue. My question is: If you forgive a Democrat for voting in favor of this war, is there anything you WON'T forgive?

And while we're on the subject, I'm done saying they voted for the "Iraq War Resolution". That's Kerry-speak, trying to have it both ways. They voted for a fucking war and they knew it at the time. At least Edwards, weak though his apology is, is apologizing for the right fucking thing. He voted for a WAR, not some abstract resolution. Kerry can't even admit that much.

Pathetic.


Edit: spelling
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 03:20 PM
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12. word
"My question is: If you forgive a Democrat for voting in favor of this war, is there anything you WON'T forgive?"


That is not a rhetorical question. :)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 06:14 PM
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13. speaks with one voice to urge Saddam comply with UN resolution
and that has always been what it was SUPPOSED to be about.

The UN also spoke with one voice giving authorization - but Bush violated both the congressional authorization AND the UN authorization as he lied to invade Iraq.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:06 AM
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14. Yeah, and Diane Feinstein said she had a 3-foot high stack of
emails, I think it was, all anti-war, and that she'd never gotten so much communication about anything in the past. And STILL she couldn't vote right.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 12:13 PM
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5. thanks for injecting some facts into the IWR discussion
I personally don't understand why people find revisiting the IWR now useful.

But if we are going to discuss it, the discussion should have a factual basis, which it generally has not had.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 12:18 PM
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6. IMO, the only real value of revisiting the issue now
is the reminder of how incredibly, intentionally decietful the Admin's us of intel was - and how any trumped up future conflict that they might try to kick into gear ought to be viewed through that lens. However, I doubt that is why there are so many threads started on the topic. Guessing that the ugly primary wars are prematurely and sophmorically beginning.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:07 AM
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15. and how willfully gullible and complicit so many Dems were
that's worth remembering too. We expect these people to have SOME measure of character, integrity, backbone, courage, spine, and competence. We got very damn little of any of that from the lot of them.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 12:19 PM
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7. Yes, why rehash the IWR? It's not like the war's still going on or anthing...
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 02:22 PM
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11. Indeed. K&R. nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-03-06 01:13 PM
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10. "fig leaf of legality" is the most telling phrase in the entire post
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 11:09 AM
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16. the most telling thing of this entire post
is that it is comprised of opinion pieces being passed off as facts.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-04-06 07:33 PM
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17. One week before Bush illegally invaded Iraq:
Statement of Senator Patrick Leahy
On The Senate Floor
Concerning Iraq
The Countdown To War
March 13, 2003


Snip...

Despite the President’s assertion that Iraq poses an imminent threat to the United States, that assertion begs credulity when the UN inspectors are making some progress and a quarter of a million American soldiers are poised to invade. Absent a credible, imminent threat, a decision to enforce Resolution 1441 should only be made by the Security Council, if it becomes clear that the inspectors cannot do the job, not by the United States or any other government alone.

The President says war is a last resort. If he feels that way, why do he and his advisers want so desperately to short circuit the inspections process? Why is he so anxious to spend billions of dollars to buy the cooperation of friends who do not yet believe war is necessary? Why is he so unconcerned about the predictable, hostile reaction of the Muslim world to the occupation of Iraq, perhaps for years, by a U.S. military "government"? Why is the President so determined to run roughshod over our traditional alliances and partnerships, which have served us well and whose support we need both today and in the future?

I cannot pretend to understand the thinking of those in the Administration who for months or even longer have seemed possessed with a kind of messianic zeal in favor of war. A preemptive war against Iraq without a declaration of war by Congress or the UN Security Council’s support, may be easy to win, but it could violate international law and cause lasting damage to our alliances and to our ability to obtain the cooperation of other nations in meeting so many other global challenges.

Just recently, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge warned that a war with Iraq could bring more threats and more terrorist attacks within the United States. The CIA Director has testified that Saddam Hussein is more likely to use chemical or biological weapons if he is attacked. Yet we are marching ahead as if these warnings do not matter.

I have said before that this war is not inevitable, and I still believe it can be avoided. But I fear that the President, despite opposition among the American people, in the UN, and around the world, is no longer listening to anyone except those within his inner circle who are eager to fight. I hope the Iraqi Government comes to its senses. I hope we do not walk away from the United Nations. I hope we do not decide that just because our troops are there we cannot afford to wait.

I yield the floor.


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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 08:07 AM
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19. Grrr.
No one opposed the IWR in stronger terms than Leahy. And the outrage he felt towards his colleagues who would vote for the piece of shit, is palpable.

"This resolution, like others before it, does not declare anything. It tells the President "you decide." This resolution, when you get through the pages of whereas clauses, is nothing more than a blank check. The President can decide when to use military force, how to use it, and for how long.


We have heard a lot of bellicose rhetoric, but what are the facts? I am not asking for 100 percent proof. But the Administration is asking Congress to make a decision to go to war based on conflicting statements, angry assertions, and assumptions based on speculation

Proponents of this resolution argue that it does put diplomacy first. They point to section 3, which requires the President to determine that further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone will not adequately protect the national security, before he resorts to military force. They say that this ensures that we will act only in a deliberative way, in concert with our allies.

But they fail to point out that the resolution permits the President to use unilateral military force if he determines that reliance on diplomacy alone "is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq . . .."

And what of the critical issue of rebuilding a post-Saddam Iraq, about which the Administration has said virtually nothing? As I have said over and over again, it is one thing to topple a regime, but it is equally important, and sometimes far more difficult, to rebuild a country to prevent it from becoming engulfed by factional fighting
Unfortunately, we have learned that the phrase "not likely" can be used to justify just about anything. So let us not pretend we are doing something we are not. This resolution permits the President to take whatever military action he wants, whenever he wants, for as long as he wants. It is a blank check."


Patrick Leahy.

October, 2002
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 08:27 AM
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20. It still doesn't change the fact that it was not
a declaration of war of war:

Snip...

Notwithstanding whatever disagreements there may be on our policy toward Iraq, if a decision is made to send troops into battle, there is no question that every Member of Congress will unite behind our President and our Armed Forces.

But that time has not yet come. Based on what I know today, I believe in order to solve this problem without potentially creating more terrorists and more enemies, we have to act deliberately and not precipitously. The way the United States responds to the threat posed by Iraq is going to have consequences for our country and for the world for years to come.

Authorizing a U.S. attack to overthrow another government while negotiations at the United Nations are ongoing, and before we exhaust other options, could damage our standing in the world as a country that recognizes the importance of international solutions. I am afraid that it would be what the world expects of a superpower that seems increasing disdainful of international opinion or cooperation and collective diplomacy, a superpower that seems more and more inclined to ``go it alone.''

What a dramatic shift from a year ago, when the world was united in its expressions of sympathy toward the United States. A year ago, the world would have welcomed the opportunity to work with us on a wide agenda of common problems.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 03:11 PM
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21. No. It was a blank check.
And Senator Leahy made that quite clear.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:46 AM
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18. Serious discussion vs. denial on Iraq
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 04:38 PM
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22. "The resolution’s contingent authority evaporates if its conditions are not met." n/t
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 04:43 PM
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23. That's not what the plain text of the resolution implies. nt
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 04:50 PM
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24. I would still like to see where in the resolution
Edited on Tue Dec-05-06 04:51 PM by tritsofme
Congress requires Bush to do anything besides determine that invading Iraq is necessary and appropriate in order to--

(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and

(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.


It doesn't. All it forces Bush to do is make a determination to and send a letter to Congress telling them that he did.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 05:14 PM
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25. If its not there you don't have to respond. nt
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talk hard Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 05:25 PM
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26. what's with this denial about the IWR?
I get that some want to let people off the hook but, damn, Democrats should never have gone along with this. It was a blank check.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 05:31 PM
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27. Excellent...
Thanks for injecting a little sanity into the discussion...


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 02:55 PM
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28. Give
Silvestre Reyes a clue: Iraq war is lost!
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