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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:20 PM
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Oy vey. DURBIN Calls on Supporters to Support OBAMA
This is rather unusual:

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2006/nov/27/durbin_pushes_supporters_to_urge_obama_to_run_for_prez

Senator Richard Durbin is calling on his supporters to urge fellow Illinios Senator Barack Obama to run for President in an email Durbin sent out to his backers:

"In all my years in politics, I have only met one other person who connects with people as well as Barack does: former President Bill Clinton," Durbin, an influential player in Democratic politics, wrote in an email urging them to sign an on-line petition. "That says a lot about Barack's superior skills as a politician and a leader. I have complete confidence that Barack will be able to unite Americans across our country in support of a new agenda of hope."
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:22 PM
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1. Bleh.
Can I have another choice?
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:22 PM
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2. Will he sell us out to corporations the way Bill Clinton did?
No doubt Obama has got Clintonian charisma.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:26 PM
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5. The 8 Clinton years were the best 8 years in the modern history of this nation.
If thats what you call 'selling us out to coroporations'... count me in.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:29 PM
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6. Counted. n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:32 PM
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7. Except it was all dismantled within Bush2's first term because Clinton covered up
for Bush1. So, what lasting good came of it?

Democrats, the Truth Still Matters!
By Robert Parry
(First Posted May 11, 2006)

Editor's Note: With the Democratic victories in the House and Senate, there is finally the opportunity to demand answers from the Bush administration about important questions, ranging from Dick Cheney's secret energy policies to George W. Bush's Iraq War deceptions. But the Democrats are sure to be tempted to put the goal of "bipartisanship" ahead of the imperative for truth.

Democrats, being Democrats, always want to put governance, such as enacting legislation and building coalitions, ahead of oversight, which often involves confrontation and hard feelings. Democrats have a difficult time understanding why facts about past events matter when there are problems in the present and challenges in the future.

Given that proclivity, we are re-posting a story from last May that examined why President Bill Clinton and the last Democratic congressional majority (in 1993-94) shied away from a fight over key historical scandals from the Reagan-Bush-I years -- and the high price the Democrats paid for that decision:

My book, Secrecy & Privilege, opens with a scene in spring 1994 when a guest at a White House social event asks Bill Clinton why his administration didn’t pursue unresolved scandals from the Reagan-Bush era, such as the Iraqgate secret support for Saddam Hussein’s government and clandestine arms shipments to Iran.

Clinton responds to the questions from the guest, documentary filmmaker Stuart Sender, by saying, in effect, that those historical questions had to take a back seat to Clinton’s domestic agenda and his desire for greater bipartisanship with the Republicans.

Clinton “didn’t feel that it was a good idea to pursue these investigations because he was going to have to work with these people,” Sender told me in an interview. “He was going to try to work with these guys, compromise, build working relationships.”

Clinton’s relatively low regard for the value of truth and accountability is relevant again today because other centrist Democrats are urging their party to give George W. Bush’s administration a similar pass if the Democrats win one or both houses of Congress.

Reporting about a booklet issued by the Progressive Policy Institute, a think tank of the Democratic Leadership Council, the Washington Post wrote, “these centrist Democrats … warned against calls to launch investigations into past administration decisions if Democrats gain control of the House or Senate in the November elections.”

These Democrats also called on the party to reject its “non-interventionist left” wing, which opposed the Iraq War and which wants Bush held accountable for the deceptions that surrounded it.

“Many of us are disturbed by the calls for investigations or even impeachment as the defining vision for our party for what we would do if we get back into office,” said pollster Jeremy Rosner, calling such an approach backward-looking.

Yet, before Democrats endorse the DLC’s don’t-look-back advice, they might want to examine the consequences of Clinton’s decision in 1993-94 to help the Republicans sweep the Reagan-Bush scandals under the rug. Most of what Clinton hoped for – bipartisanship and support for his domestic policies – never materialized.

‘Politicized’ CIA

After winning Election 1992, Clinton also rebuffed appeals from members of the U.S. intelligence community to reverse the Reagan-Bush “politicization” of the CIA’s analytical division by rebuilding the ethos of objective analysis even when it goes against a President’s desires.

Instead, in another accommodating gesture, Clinton gave the CIA director’s job to right-wing Democrat, James Woolsey, who had close ties to the Reagan-Bush administration and especially to its neoconservatives.

One senior Democrat told me Clinton picked Woolsey as a reward to the neocon-leaning editors of the New Republic for backing Clinton in Election 1992.

“I told that the New Republic hadn’t brought them enough votes to win a single precinct,” the senior Democrat said. “But they kept saying that they owed this to the editors of the New Republic.”

During his tenure at the CIA, Woolsey did next to nothing to address the CIA’s “politicization” issue, intelligence analysts said. Woolsey also never gained Clinton’s confidence and – after several CIA scandals – was out of the job by January 1995.

At the time of that White House chat with Stuart Sender, Clinton thought that his see-no-evil approach toward the Reagan-Bush era would give him an edge in fulfilling his campaign promise to “focus like a laser beam” on the economy.

He was taking on other major domestic challenges, too, like cutting the federal deficit and pushing a national health insurance plan developed by First Lady Hillary Clinton.

So for Clinton, learning the truth about controversial deals between the Reagan-Bush crowd and the autocratic governments of Iraq and Iran just wasn’t on the White House radar screen. Clinton also wanted to grant President George H.W. Bush a gracious exit.

“I wanted the country to be more united, not more divided,” Clinton explained in his 2004 memoir, My Life. “President Bush had given decades of service to our country, and I thought we should allow him to retire in peace, leaving the (Iran-Contra) matter between him and his conscience.”

Unexpected Results

Clinton’s generosity to George H.W. Bush and the Republicans, of course, didn’t turn out as he had hoped. Instead of bipartisanship and reciprocity, he was confronted with eight years of unrelenting GOP hostility, attacks on both his programs and his personal reputation.

Later, as tensions grew in the Middle East, the American people and even U.S. policymakers were flying partially blind, denied anything close to the full truth about the history of clandestine relationships between the Reagan-Bush team and hostile nations in the Middle East.

Clinton’s failure to expose that real history also led indirectly to the restoration of Bush Family control of the White House in 2001. Despite George W. Bush’s inexperience as a national leader, he drew support from many Americans who remembered his father’s presidency fondly.

If the full story of George H.W. Bush’s role in secret deals with Iraq and Iran had ever been made public, the Bush Family’s reputation would have been damaged to such a degree that George W. Bush’s candidacy would not have been conceivable.

Not only did Clinton inadvertently clear the way for the Bush restoration, but the Right’s political ascendancy wiped away much of the Clinton legacy, including a balanced federal budget and progress on income inequality. A poorly informed American public also was easily misled on what to do about U.S. relations with Iraq and Iran.

In retrospect, Clinton’s tolerance of Reagan-Bush cover-ups was a lose-lose-lose – the public was denied information it needed to understand dangerous complexities in the Middle East, George W. Bush built his presidential ambitions on the nation’s fuzzy memories of his dad, and Republicans got to enact a conservative agenda.

Clinton’s approach also reflected a lack of appreciation for the importance of truth in a democratic Republic. If the American people are expected to do their part in making sure democracy works, they need to be given at least a chance of being an informed electorate.

Yet, Clinton – and now some pro-Iraq War Democrats – view truth as an expendable trade-off when measured against political tactics or government policies. In reality, accurate information about important events is the lifeblood of democracy.

Though sometimes the truth can hurt, Clinton and the Democrats should understand that covering up the truth can hurt even more. As Clinton’s folly with the Reagan-Bush scandals should have taught, the Democrats may hurt themselves worst of all when helping the Republicans cover up the truth.

Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.'
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:49 AM
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23. NAFTA and media deregulation
Clinton was the best friend of job outsourcing the country has ever seen, and he was a strong ally of media giants such as Rupert Murdoch and Clear Channel.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:26 AM
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27. Over 22.4 million jobs created under the Clinton-Gore administration.
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 08:33 AM by nickshepDEM
-When Clinton took office, the poorest 1/5th weren't any better off than they had been in the 1970s. When he left office, they'd made their greatest gains since the 1960s.

-The Unemployment Rate Was 3.9 Percent in October 2000 -- Nearly the Lowest in Three Decades.

-African American and Hispanic Unemployment Rates were the Lowest on Record.

-Most Rapid Growth in Construction Jobs In 50 Years.

-Fastest and Longest Real Wage Growth in Over Three Decades.

-Inflation – Lowest Since the 1960s.

-The strong dollar policy that he employed sent foreign money pouring into Wall Street. By adopting an economic centrist policy and cutting thousands of pages from federal regulations, businesses were confident that they could operate under a sound management.

Like I said, sign me up...
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:37 AM
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30. I guess if you're a corporatist
Edited on Tue Nov-28-06 09:38 AM by depakid
and don't care one iota about responsible regulation, falling real wages or environmental laws- you're on.

Clinton set us up not only for the recession- but for complete far right dominance of the media.

Nice job Bill.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 10:59 AM
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31. See #27....
Like I said, sign me up.

:hi:
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:22 PM
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3. Correct.
I have only met one other person who connects with people as well as Barack does: former President Bill Clinton.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:23 PM
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4. I wish Durbin would run himself.
But Obama is a good second choice. A politically smart move on Durbin's part. He's starting his re-election campaign and mooching off Obama's popularity in Illinois won't hurt him any.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 08:44 PM
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8. Agreed

I wish Durbin would run also...oh well.

Cheers
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 11:33 PM
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9. Agreed as well...whether as Prez. or VP. He's a TRUE Dem, but NOTthe type
to promote Obama. The two are not at all of the same 'ilk.' I'm surprised Dubin would endorse Obama, of all candidates!?
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:24 AM
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14. what "ilk" do you speak of?
Could you please be more specific? I like both Durbin AND Obama. I would hate to be accused of tainting one democrat with the "ilk" of another. :eyes:
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 11:36 PM
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10. This can't be true! I have never heard of such a thing before.
A dem leader urging people to back a particular candidate for president.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:04 AM
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11. Is there something wrong with me?
Obama leaves me cold.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:20 AM
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12. You're not alone . . .
While I think he gave a great speech at the 2004 convention, I don't see his charm extending much beyond that. I also met him a couple of months ago, and let's just say he wasn't exactly warm and fuzzy. Of all the politicians I've met in person, he has probably the least one-on-one charisma out of all of them.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:26 AM
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15. Thank you.
To me, he just seems so "manufactured."
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:45 AM
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21. Obama is genuine and real while Hillary is homogenized and pasteurized
and that's not even considering Hillary's dismal record on human rights and the war.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:25 AM
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25. Oh, yes, I like Hillary least of all.
We're in agreement there. On Obama, I am willing to be convinced ... I just haven't felt it yet.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:29 AM
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16. Compared to Obama, Hillary has the charisma of a pile of dog shit
Unlike Obama, Hillary is quite good at tailoring her message to an specific audience, such as her recent private meeting with LGBT leaders in which she said she was "evolving" on same sex marriage. Kinda of the sort of closeted support she gave to Ned Lamont.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:34 AM
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18. Hillary definitely needs to work on her speech-giving skills
Mostly, she just needs to get decent speechwriters (or maybe she should just consult her husband). She was great when she spoke at Ann Richards' funeral, but that's the only time I've seen her actually project charisma in a speech. I think she has the capability, she just falls short most of the time.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:42 AM
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20. Hillary is shallow and lacks substance
Her core values begin and end with "what's good for Hillary."

Everytime she makes a joint appearance with Big Dog, we are reminded of how much we love Bill and much we loath Hillary.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:34 AM
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19. That's not Obama... You just forgot to put yer longjohns on!
Fello Alaskan, ol buddy, ol pal...

---------------------------------------------------

C'mon Blue.. think of the bumper stickers we could come up with!!

"You bet Yo Mama, I'm goin 4 Obama!"

"Want outta Iraq? Vote 4 Barack!"


Ok.. those were off the top of my head.. Give me a few more minutes and I'll think of something.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 01:28 AM
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26. You're too funny, Larissa...
You're probably right -- this long cold snap has finally gotten to me. :scared:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:24 AM
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13. Mr. Durbin knows what he's talking about.
I could definitely see Obama giving Hill a run for her money.

I would think with all the bellyaching about Hillary around here that this would make people cheer.
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:32 AM
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17. Obama would be an awesome VP candidate...
way better than that crumbum Edwards.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:47 AM
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22. Durbin started pushing Obama for President several months ago
Late summer, if I remember correctly.

I'm pleased to have both Durbin and Obama representing my state. But I don't agree with Durbin about Obama. I would like to see Obama slated as VP with the top spot occupied by Gore or Clark.

And I understand what Durbin is saying about Obama connecting with people. But Durbin's done a better job of connecting with me, personally. He always responds to my mail. Obama never has.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 11:59 AM
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32. Exactly

I have never received a reply from Obama either. I haven't signed the petition and I don't think I will.

I prefer Durbin over Obama by far, just my opinion, but I feel that everything Obama does is with an eye toward the oval office.

Cheers
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 12:55 AM
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24. I don't like this very much..
They are putting Obama on a pedestal, and that is not good this early on.

The right wing blogs are gathering stuff, and some of it ain't very pretty. Right or wrong, by pushing someone just early out it is giving time for them to organize.

Everyone needs to search right wing blogs to see what they are doing. You don't need to come post it here, just be aware.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 08:53 AM
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28. Durbin is generous he really likes Obama. He gave him part of his huge
office. Durbin has a lot of seniority a huge space in Washington. When Obama came he had a small crappy office so Durbin shared his space. I doubt many senior senators would do that.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-28-06 09:32 AM
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29. Nothing wrong or unusual about this at all...
I believe Hillary would be our best candidate, but Obama would run a very strong race, and is a very appealing personality...he would do quite well I believe...

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