Mandy Grunwald, wife of Matt Cooper, reporter who kept Rove's Plame secrets

[blm]

throughout 2003 and 2004. Mandy Grunwald has been a longtime Clinton ally, the SECOND close ally to be married to someone keeping WH secrets on Plame outing.

None of the Plame information concerning Rove and the WH connections was shared with the public before the 2004 election. Why would ANYONE in the Clinton camp keep such serious secrets from the media and the Dem party that could give the voters important information it needed?

Imagine if IranContra, BCCI secrets were kept from the public before the 1992 race - would Clinton have won?

I knew Mrs. Matt Cooper has been a longtime Clintonite, but this latest NYT article reminded me about Grunwald, who is another strategist of the Carville mold - they protect Bushes because it protects the Clintons.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/21/us/politics/21donate.html?hp&ex=1164171600&en=1cf680b27f8bb06f&ei=5094&partner=homepage

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Mark Penn, Mrs. Clinton’s pollster and longtime adviser, received at least $1.1 million. Mandy Grunwald, her longtime communications strategist, received more than $930,000. Hudson Media Partners, an offshoot of the Glover Park Group consulting firm where two prominent Clinton advisers, Howard Wolfson and Gigi Georges, work, received nearly $200,000.

Campaign aides said much of the consulting work went toward building a donor list that would be vital in a presidential race. But they did not specify the work done by each of the consultants or say exactly how much of the money they received went to preparing for a presidential run rather than Mrs. Clinton’s Senate re-election. And the figures have raised eyebrows among the people who raise money for her.

“We’re not in this business to make consultants rich,” said one fund-raiser for Mrs. Clinton who was granted anonymity in order to speak freely about the direction of the campaign.

“The wasting of money — it drives everybody crazy,” the fund-raiser said. “She’d better get a handle on this if she is going to run for president.”
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[Captain Hilts]

1. I DIDN'T know that! And Ilike to think I know all this gossip. nt

[karynnj]

2. BLM, the missing link is whether Ms Grunwald knew

There is ample proof that Matt Cooper knew and kept silent. There is also proof that she worked for Hillary.

To involve her, we need real proof that she actually knew. ( If she knew and didn't tell, it might be more because she saw it as her husband's decision - rather than because of her alliance with Hillary.)

[blm]

3. I don't believe for a second that she didn't share the info with Clintons -

they are closerthanthis and she has made millions through her connections with them.

The Clintons always coverup for the Bushes when it comes to anything involving the CIA, war, or crimes of office.

[wisteria]

4. More and more, I have become uneasy with the closeness of the

Clinton's and the Bush's. It really is af if they are protecting one another. I have now come to the conclusion that the Clinton's did nothing much to help Kerry at all in 04 except that last minute campaigning by Clinton. I really think they were hoping and helping to make sure he lost. Add Carville into the mix and I think that is the cherry on top.

[flpoljunkie]

5. Why on earth do candidates spend money mailing solicitations for money to folks who donate online?

What a colossal waste of other folks money given to their campaigns!

How difficult can it be to separate those who give online from those who donate by mail?

[karynnj]

6. Even worse, why do they call them on the phone - which is more expensive?

My guess - email is by far the cheapest, but it may have a lower response rate - especially if the email list is purchased. 1 million purchased emails is not the same as 1 million emails where people specifically asked to be on a list. Nothing is easier than deleting email and even declaring the sender spam.

Before the "do not call" list was made law, companies used telemarketing because even though it cost more per contact than direct mail- a sufficiently higher percent of contacts bought the product. For many products, it made economic sense to telemarket (and bother people).

Here, it may be some small percent of people with enough money to contribute might not have email and some people are more comfortable with responding to mail rather than email.

[flpoljunkie]

7. Save money by soliciting those who donate online by email, rather than sending fundraising letters.

I received multiple fundraising letters from Hillary Clinton, altho I donated no money to her fundraising groups, i.e. Friends of Hillary, online or otherwide.

[karynnj]

12. My husband and I got them too - also gave no money

The only one that bothered me was a Bill Clinton one that called her the number one target of the RW as a reason why she needed money. You would think that as a number 1 target, they would find an opponent.

[KoKo]

13. She was down here in NC at $1,000 a plate dinner raising money..and

when I posted it...I was told she was giving all that money to Dems Running in Elections. I guess I was right and they were wrong...or the truth lies in the middle.

[Major Hogwash]

8. $36 million bucks? With a 35 point lead? Was all that necessary?

That's over the top in a way that only a French king could understand.

[paulk]

9. this is bullshit

if you think threads like this are going to help Kerry, you are wrong.

All you are doing is alienating people.

[blm]

11. What I believe is that certain parts of the Dem party are AGAINST anti-corruption Dems

and there is a trail of evidence, including congressional records that proves it.

You may have dismissed what Woodward said in his book about Carville and election night, but I do not, as it fits the pattern.

Then there was heyjohn.com website attacking Kerry with lies, and then Hillary's scolding Kerry because of Bush's lie that Kerry insulted the troops.

The Clinton team doesn't care about alienating ME or other Democrats, so why should I care about them?

If I alienate those who support the coverup wing of the Dem party, who cares? Whether they realize it or not, they support covering up for BushInc.

That is NOT ACCEPTABLE to me. And I don't care one whit about popularity here at DU or anywhere else. I don't accept LIES.

[paulk]

14. if your attacks on the Clinton's didn't have such nakedly partisan

motivations, I might be able to see your point.

This isn't some isolated thread or post, this is a campaign on your part. And I'm sorry, I can't buy this "Clinton's as coverup wing of the party". This is conspiracy theory; tin hat stuff. It may play well for a few of the faithful here on DU, but out in the real world people just aren't going to care -

You're making serious accusations - accusations you can't conclusively prove, against a President, (and his wife, by inference), who would have easily won a third term if it had been allowed, and more than likely is the primary reason his wife is polling so well. There are a lot of people who wouldn't mind seeing him back in the White House, even as second fiddle. You're not going to win people over to Kerry (and that is what this is all about) by waging this kind of campaign. In fact, you could very well do the opposite.

And I say this as a Kerry supporter .

[blm]

15. I defended Clintons as much as anyone for YEARS - after reading his book and after many reports

and Parry's article (which has PLENTY of evidence) and Woodward's book and Clinton never hearing anything about DSM and Hillary scolding Kerry, and the 6 yrs of rehabilitating Bush1's reputation, I am supposed to believe in COINCIDENCE?

Not going to happen.

And I NEVER accepted any RW lie about Clinton, and never will and STILL fight those lies and always will - HOWEVER, the Clintons wouldn't lift a finger to do the same for Kerry and chose to USE and FURTHER BushInc's lie against him.

I didn't start this with the Clintons - and certainly Kerry did not - and neither did Dean - but they are the ones who set the wheels in motion by their deceits for political gain, and I am not going to deny any truth that points to them, especially Robert Parry's evidence.

[ChiciB1]

10. Sorry... This Smells To Me!!

Hillary lost me a long time ago, but still this is WEIRD!!